I have not encountered a bot yet.

[Mendolus]

Actually, I rolled most of my toons on Siel as Asmodian, and I did not encounter a single bot. It was only when I rolled an Elyos on Azphel that I saw a bot in the starting zone pounding away on mobs.

But seriously, I've been through almost all of the first two starting regions, and not seen a single bot on Siel Asmo side.

[inaktive]

prolly because the bots either reach lvl 5 in 10 mins then start spamming, or because they out level the starting zone in an hour and never have to restart cause they dont get banned.

[Mendolus]

Yes, but if that were the case, since I have played 4-5hrs per night on the last 13 out of 14 days on toons under level 20, you would think I would see one pass me by, no?

[blakbyrd]

Originally Posted by Blog Monster

Sin is an abbreviation of Assasin

Sorc is an abbreviation for sorcerer

If you actually read the OP it says "sin"

Oops, you are right. For some reason I keep associating "sin" with sorcerer, and I dont know why, even though I know better I still keep doing that...haha. I guess its because in most games the shortcuts for classes all generally start out with the first letter of the class at least and I keep thinking that way.

Regardless though, in the starting area, it hardly matter which class it was. Actually, to be technical there is no level 1-9 Assassin or Sorcerer...haha, but who cares.

My only real point was that level 1-10 is quick enough to negate much benefit to botting, so it seems alot of people dont bother to bot till later. I have seen one or two bots in Poeta but nothing like I see in Verteron and Elten so far, and as I understand it, the bots get even worse in the higher level areas.

[Dashdot]

I assume Blog Monster has never been outside Beluslan Fortress. Either that, or he's completely blind. Bots are extremely easy to identify. We have LOADS of them on Telemachus.

Both gold selling farmer bots and normal players botting.

[inaktive]

Originally Posted by Mendolus

Yes, but if that were the case, since I have played 4-5hrs per night on the last 13 out of 14 days on toons under level 20, you would think I would see one pass me by, no?

Nope, there are 10 channels for a player's bot to be hiding in and they're only going to be in that zone for 2 days tops before they move on. Luckily for you the gold farming bots, which are the biggest problem, are mostly lvl 35+ and you'll never run into them at your speed

[Mendolus]

I suppose, but there's only five channels in the region with Altgard in it, and I frequently have to swap between them all to avoid other questers... still never seen a bot on that faction and server, >.<

I am trying to be encouraging here, but it seems even on this forum (came here because the official one is full of people spamming pictures with content inappropriate for a work environment), few people seem to want a gleam of hope on the botting issue and would rather point out the worst rather than the best, even when someone points out how they've leveled nearly a half dozen chars to nearly 20 and not seen one bot on that particular faction/server.

Oh I am sure I will not be lucky enough to avoid or somehow miss them once I get into the higher level areas, but at least a player who rolls a new character on my server and faction, has a higher chance of getting to enjoy their first week or two in the game without running into bots.

[Skeppers]

I just had a sex wee

[Winter[SM]]

Op, congrats! You took retard to the next level of stupid!

I've never seen a black person, this must mean they don't exist according to your logic!

[thrash242]

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[BrokenBrain]

Just to clarify for anyone who might be confused... bots are not the toons you see out there grinding incredibly efficiently. They're the toons doing stuff so incredibly stupid (and sometimes inefficient) that it's highly unlikely there's a real person behind the toon.

A bot will ignore any mobs outside their programmed area and just stand there. Some bots will try to killsteal when it's completely obvious they don't have a chance in Hades but other bots will back off the minute another player starts attacking their mob regardless of whether that other player is likely to successfully killsteal. Bots will not say anything, or even target you out of curiosity, when you follow them around or jump up and down in front of them.

TL;DR: Bots aren't being confused with efficient grinders, and I'm tired of people saying: "ZOMG I bet everyone thinks I'm a bot cuz I'm so awesome!"

[Dashdot]

Originally Posted by Mendolus

I suppose, but there's only five channels in the region with Altgard in it, and I frequently have to swap between them all to avoid other questers... still never seen a bot on that faction and server, >.<

I am trying to be encouraging here, but it seems even on this forum (came here because the official one is full of people spamming pictures with content inappropriate for a work environment), few people seem to want a gleam of hope on the botting issue and would rather point out the worst rather than the best, even when someone points out how they've leveled nearly a half dozen chars to nearly 20 and not seen one bot on that particular faction/server.

Oh I am sure I will not be lucky enough to avoid or somehow miss them once I get into the higher level areas, but at least a player who rolls a new character on my server and faction, has a higher chance of getting to enjoy their first week or two in the game without running into bots.

On the highlighted part:
This is because bots almost always bot in places where quests don't take you, or in places where only unpopular quests take you. Gold selling spam bots only bot in the 1-10 area. Normal botting players usually don't start botting until they release they need to grind to level (usually past lvl30). Gold selling farmer bots are not below lvl30 anymore. The bots have waypoints designed specifically to avoid as much contact as possible with other players (unless the person behind the bot is stupid).

Bots don't quest, they grind. So they don't need popular mob places, they don't need easy mobs either, clerics/chanters are **** easy to bot, so are templars and to a lesser degree gladiators. There's a reason why you barely see any ranger bots, there's no ranger who either doesn't jump shoot or at least move when in combat. There are **** ton of bots around... Check out beluslan fortress. ALWAYS at least one bot there, as that is the best place to bot at lvl30, considering there're no aggressive mobs around that fortress. So if you want to find botters to report, go there.

[FellWolf]

Originally Posted by Blog Monster

Summary:
- Grinding is more beneficial than questing, NCsoft should probably look into that, I don't particularly mind because of movement mechanics they implemented (makes mundane mob mashing fun)

[Mendolus]

Originally Posted by Dashdot

On the highlighted part:
This is because bots almost always bot in places where quests don't take you, or in places where only unpopular quests take you. Gold selling spam bots only bot in the 1-10 area. Normal botting players usually don't start botting until they release they need to grind to level (usually past lvl30). Gold selling farmer bots are not below lvl30 anymore. The bots have waypoints designed specifically to avoid as much contact as possible with other players (unless the person behind the bot is stupid).

Bots don't quest, they grind. So they don't need popular mob places, they don't need easy mobs either, clerics/chanters are **** easy to bot, so are templars and to a lesser degree gladiators. There's a reason why you barely see any ranger bots, there's no ranger who either doesn't jump shoot or at least move when in combat. There are **** ton of bots around... Check out beluslan fortress. ALWAYS at least one bot there, as that is the best place to bot at lvl30, considering there're no aggressive mobs around that fortress. So if you want to find botters to report, go there.

I usually grind a level or two every four or five levels when the quests do not push me far enough. The mobs I grind are the easiest, with the best drops, which are usually right outside the major questing hubs in the region like Altgard. I did not see a bot farming such mobs in two weeks, in both regions I have seen so far. The moment I logged onto Azphel as Elyos, I saw a bot, "hfhjhfhfhf", farming the starting zone, endlessly.

What you make of that is at your own discretion. If you want to continue to see nothing but the negative, feel free.

[Eric Danieros]

Wow, a bot with an AI to make threads saying there are no bots.