Alright lets face it

[Houdii]

Originally Posted by Reii

If we weren't separated by a massive ocean I'd take your head off.

AKA meaningless words on a forum for the purpose of flexing your epeen.

I care.

Really.

Dude if I was trying to threaten you I'd say I'd kick your *** or stick my foot up your ***.

I just said I'd finger it which to be honest is quite and awesome little feeling.

I feel sorry for you if this is how you take those words.

[Serephine]

"NO, NO DADDY, NOT MY ARSE!"
"You take it where I like it boy, hhhhrrffff!"

[Stannie]

so has anyone tested windows 7-siege performance at all yet?

[sakkath]

Been running Windows 7 x64 since I was playing on CAion.

I have a very high end PC, and as such if I run on my default settings (ie everything set to max), it still runs extremely smoothly but crashes within 10-30 seconds due to hitting the 2G wall in a real hurry.

If I turn every graphics setting to minimum and Shift-F12, I can usually last through a whole siege without crashing, and obviously it still runs smoothly.

In fact nothing I do can make it run slowly, even 200 people on the screen at max settings. The crashes are the only problem. =/

[Daeven]

Originally Posted by Kaedan94

Because maybe they use 32 bit versions of Vista?

Microsoft did not win a single key Korean enterprise contract for Windows Vista. There are very few large net cafe chains or major corporations in Korea that run Windows Vista. For a number of business and unique technical reasons, Vista in Korea was even more of a failure than it was globally. I was able to validate this information through commercial means, but I am sure with a little digging you could find this out yourself.

As the officers in our guild know, I read the official Korean forums every day. We keep on top of the weekly patch notes, trends, etc. There are people both in this thread and others that have already noted that Korean forums do not mention fundamental crashing issues, even given the large number of servers and mature state of sieging there. But who cares. The biggest problem with all of your posts is that it seems English is not your first language, and therefore you misunderstand the context of the discussion. Most readers in this thread are probably wondering about the point you are really trying to make.

We already know there is a problem with the game client, that is exacerbated on 64-bit operating systems, because it has been covered in-depth. I don't even think we disagree on anything beyond the effect that the widespread use of Windows XP in Korea potentially had on lessening the realisation/effect of this problem.

NCsoft has already said that they had to specifically raise this issue with the Korean development team, at which point they determined it was in fact a game engine problem that is now being worked on to provide a resolution. This was not known all along - it would be negligent/nonsensical for NCsoft Korea to not communicate a problem of this magnitude to its subsidiaries, especially given the high uptake of 64-bit system expected with the release of Windows 7.

All that really matters at this stage is that the crashing problems are fixed.

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@Stannie - I am using Window 7 64-bit with Nvidia GTX285 video cards, and generally experience around 1-2 crashes per day. Thse crashes are infrequent and random, but generally happen when sieging (I dont use Shift-F12 but do turn graphics to lowest settings) or transitioning between zones via the teleporter - in both cases its the same DLL errors reported in system logging.

[Kaedan94]

Well, seeing as Windows XP is a million times more stable than Vista, I still prefer to use it. Only reason I have Vista on my current pc is because I need to have it installed to upgrade to my free Windows 7.

And actually, the amount of people crashing is relatively small. Even if we assume 25% of the people on aionsource are having problems (that's being incredibly generous). You see, Aionsource only accounts for 3% of the Aion population. 25% of only 3% of the Aion population is having problems. Now, I'm sure some people that aren't on Aionsource are having problems too, but I browse a lot of other forums and don't see nearly as much QQing about the crashes. It just appears to be a large number because people here cry louder.

However, I'm not saying it isn't a problem. Obviously some people aren't able to play the game, which sucks. It is a problem, but it's not an excuse for why Elyos are doing poorly.

Actually, my main point was this, but you chose to get all bent out of shape about the 2GB thing. The second part of my post, I was trying to point out that Aion isn't the only game out there that suffers from the 2GB 64 bit crash (which DOES seem to be the primary cause of the crashes). Granted, I could have done it without the insult, and I apologize.

[Daeven]

Fair enough. I should have been more cool-headed, so please accept my apologies too.

[Poem]

Originally Posted by Daeven

All that really matters at this stage is that the crashing problems are fixed.

This will be pivotal to the success of this game in the Western market. Spam is annoying. The bot that just "helped" you kill your quest mob is annoying. Every single member of Animal is annoying. But a fundamental endgame mechanic that doesn't allow players to participate as intended, even though they are virtually forced to try, will break this game if it isn't fixed.

Fortresses are not fun at all, even without crashing.

[Parog]

I'm pretty sure some posts were deleted there. =( Houds, I still want your finger.

[Houdii]

Yeah I think I'm being watched.

You want my finger up your bum don't you Chalky

[waif]

Stink off, chalkys my biatch! He sends me non-infraction PMs all the time <3