Balaur Conspiracy - Gah.

[tws]

So today I was in a group to do balaur conspiracy. I happened to be dead right when the timer ran out, which means that I didn't get any credit for the quest, and had to find another whole freaking group to do it. Said and done, I find another group, took about one hour and we go in to protect the NPC. What happens? The exact same thing. I die twice and I still did not get credit.
Before you start flaming, I know that we might have been a little underleveled to do the quest, "dont complain because you have a bad healer" etc etc, but that's not the point.

The point is that technically I DID COMPLETE THE QUESTOBJECTIVE, TWICE, THE NPC DID NOT DIE. But since I was dead I guess it doesn't count?

120 000 for soul soulheals and the quest is still incomplete, any thoughts on this?

[Lurg]

You have to not be dead when timer runs out.

I would say either don't complain if you are underlevelled, or wait to gain a level or two before trying again.

[jungfreud]

Not giving people completion credit for being dead really detracts from the number of effective ways to handle quests like these, and has a tendency to leave certain group members feeling very cheated if their mates (or PUGs) decide they don't want to redo the thing just for one guy. It's just not a good mechanic, and they should change it. Having it this way doesn't improve the game or make it any harder or anything.

[tws]

The pug wanted to help me with the quest, but they couldn't enter the zone again since they had already finished the quest

[Nox_]

Yea it's lame but you cannot die during that quest.

[Lurg]

its lame yes, annoying yes, but don't try to do it at level 37 for the reason of, if you die, you don't get credit.

*shrug*

[Autocratic]

I did this with:

1 Temp
Me (glad. I was 35 at the time )
1 Sin
1 Cleric
2 Sorcs

All under 40. The only pull you need to worry about is the last one, which has 3 or 4 elites (can't remember). Just have the Sorcs fear/tree/sleep everything in sight. Have the Sin kite whatevers left. Glad and Temp kill 1 elite at a time.

Took 3 tries but we finished it.

-Auto

[Glor]

Originally Posted by jungfreud

Not giving people completion credit for being dead really detracts from the number of effective ways to handle quests like these, and has a tendency to leave certain group members feeling very cheated if their mates (or PUGs) decide they don't want to redo the thing just for one guy. It's just not a good mechanic, and they should change it. Having it this way doesn't improve the game or make it any harder or anything.

I don't see any problem from not giving quest completion to someone that died, BUT, i find it utterly silly that if you die, you HAVE TO make an other group, because all the people that didn"t died cannot help you. They can either return, zone out, suicide or whatever, they will still get quest validation and won't be able to enter the zone again to redo it for the few that failed it. This is utter crap.

[Marvin]

This is simply wrong type of quest. It's ok that u dont get a credit if ur dead, but its totaly stupid that quest system ridiculously limits number of people who can help you. I bet this quest frustrates many players and that is simply wrong.

[Grievear]

Can't believe this hasn't been posted yet... save your re-raise stones!

You don't get credit if you're dead, but you will get credit if you're dead with rez effect on your corpse! You don't have to raise, just sit there with rez effect on your body and you'll get credit (of course 1 person has to be alive).

[niuniu]

Did it 4 man at level 36. I died first time like you, me and another healer. Everyone else got it.

We went back inside, 3 of us, all healers thathad died from previous attempts in other groups and 1 assassin. 3 of us jumped up on the rock on the side (either is fine I suppose, we used left as you go in) out of melee range. The assassin stayed down and killed ranged non elites then comes back to door when new wave arrives. In the end we just spam healed each other and the NPC (who takes the aggro btw) and survived until timer runs out. Very easy if not cheap way to do it. Getting a party is really tough for this one so this is another option.

[Eadwyn]

As an earlier poster said, bring self-rez stones!

If you have used your free ones already, then just go the abyss consumable shop and buy one for like 600 abyss points.

Edit: Yeah 2 sorcs = auto-win on this one basically.

[Shandris]

I used a self-rez stone after the timer ran out, but it didn't give it to me. Now I've tried it twice, I'm level 41, and racked up 1 mil in xp loss...

Theres no excuse for this in terms of needing to do it a certain way. The 4th group spawns a bit too early, and the quest is idiotic in not letting people complete it again. I'd be ok with it not letting me complete it if I died, but to also have me lose xp and split my group (when some people stay alive and others dont) is idiotic. Just voicing my opinion that the quest needs to be changed. And that whoever created the quest is an idiot...there I said it.

[Wrath]

There is a spike on the lower right corner that deagro mob. When timer is about 30 sec, run back, jump on spike and finish the quest. NPC can last pretty long.

[Evil Fluffy]

Originally Posted by Grievear

Can't believe this hasn't been posted yet... save your re-raise stones!

You don't get credit if you're dead, but you will get credit if you're dead with rez effect on your corpse! You don't have to raise, just sit there with rez effect on your body and you'll get credit (of course 1 person has to be alive).

It has been posted, often.