Legendary & Hero Boss Faction Balance? - Page 2

faction · 11-07-2009, 03:43 AM

Kromede weapons don't have attackspeed. Don't post if you're retarded.

Palin · 11-07-2009, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by faction

Alukina weapons are superior outside of the polearm. Just because they're lower level and have MP means nothing, no amount of stats makes up for being extendable.
I'm sure you try to play off any faction you play in any game as the victim with your logic.

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Originally Posted by faction

Kromede weapons don't have attackspeed. Don't post if you're retarded.

I missed the part where Attackspeed was mentioned in your post?

Don't call people retarded when you yourself are.

faction · 11-07-2009, 06:58 AM

Anyone decent would realize it's already implied, since no weapons past lvl 45 are even worth considering if they don't have attackspeed...

Try to save face all you want, you're wrong.

Evil Fluffy · 11-07-2009, 05:53 PM

Ignore faction (literally, use the forum's ignore function).

Zapiel's in Heiron but it's not like it's some quick run to check, it's a pain in the *** and it's not like rifts to hieron are rare. An asmo group can rift and hit it. It's one of the few worthwhile people to kil. Bollveig could be worth killing as well, however the gear's not as good as what comes from others. The difficulty for Asmo to reach Zapiel evens out the difficulty we have getting to Draup.

Palin · 11-07-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by faction

Anyone decent would realize it's already implied, since no weapons past lvl 45 are even worth considering if they don't have attackspeed...

Try to save face all you want, you're wrong.

It wasn't implied, you wanted it to be assumed.

And im not trying to save face by calling out your mistake, it is just annoying how you expect others to assume what you do.

lsdlsdlsd · 11-08-2009, 07:18 AM

world bosses are the most useless thing in a MMO, no skill required to kill, zerg 2 win

bosses with such phat loot should be instanced, with a decent CD on the instance, and hard to kill

Azzer · 11-12-2009, 04:20 PM

Just to those Elyos that said Asmo's had it easy as we can just rift in to your bosses... did this include the fact that the "invisible bridge" apparently only shows sparkles to Elyos players, so Asmo's have no way safely across? 24 full raid sparkles didn't show up for anyone day or night. Anyway, whatever any Elyos are trying to claim to "defend" their bosses saying it's balanced (and some crazies saying that Asmo's have it easier, and some horse-blinkered people thinking the only loot that matters is extendable weapon loot), I'd swap the boss situation any day. Ah well. QQ over.

Dejh · 11-13-2009, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Fluffy

Ignore faction (literally, use the forum's ignore function).

Zapiel's in Heiron but it's not like it's some quick run to check, it's a pain in the *** and it's not like rifts to hieron are rare. An asmo group can rift and hit it. It's one of the few worthwhile people to kil. Bollveig could be worth killing as well, however the gear's not as good as what comes from others. The difficulty for Asmo to reach Zapiel evens out the difficulty we have getting to Draup.

Bollvig can not be killed by Asmodians, as he is friendly to them. In fact, he's a quest NPC.

Kapla · 11-13-2009, 05:24 AM

All Alukina vs. Zapiel arguments can be nullified by the fact that we have these two easily farmable bosses:

Elyos: Unstable Triroan - NPCs - Aion
Asmodians: Lord Lannok - NPCs - Aion

Both these bosses almost as good 1h extendables than Alukina.
Nobody in the game drops a polearm even near to Zapiels.

Ephrum · 11-13-2009, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapla

All Alukina vs. Zapiel arguments can be nullified by the fact that we have these two easily farmable bosses:

Elyos: Unstable Triroan - NPCs - Aion
Asmodians: Lord Lannok - NPCs - Aion

Both these bosses almost as good 1h extendables than Alukina.
Nobody in the game drops a polearm even near to Zapiels.

+1

Zapiel's spear is easily the best in the game.

Circus Midgets · 11-13-2009, 09:04 AM

Another asmo boss vs elyos boss QQ thread....

Loctar · 11-13-2009, 10:13 AM

Another Asmo QQ thread... Troll away =)

It's easy you can just reroll!

Phinyx · 11-13-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapla

All Alukina vs. Zapiel arguments can be nullified by the fact that we have these two easily farmable bosses:

Elyos: Unstable Triroan - NPCs - Aion
Asmodians: Lord Lannok - NPCs - Aion

Both these bosses almost as good 1h extendables than Alukina.
Nobody in the game drops a polearm even near to Zapiels.

You missed a big one here with the weapons - Cast Haste books.

I can get one from Miragent's after months of work and really good luck, or pray for a gold to drop from B-Rank or better DP (snowball's chance in hell), or farm up over 900000 AP for one. Or, I can take the easy road and farm Draupnir Cave every cooldown, fly right down to Bakarma and farm him for a Cast Haste book instead.

Except oh wait, I can't, because the only way to get to Draupnir Cave is through a single rift in our elite zone, thanks to Beluslan's "guards in bottlenecks" approach to map design. And that rift just so happens to barely ever be up.

Kapla · 11-14-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Phinyx

You missed a big one here with the weapons - Cast Haste books.

I can get one from Miragent's after months of work and really good luck, or pray for a gold to drop from B-Rank or better DP (snowball's chance in hell), or farm up over 900000 AP for one. Or, I can take the easy road and farm Draupnir Cave every cooldown, fly right down to Bakarma and farm him for a Cast Haste book instead.

Except oh wait, I can't, because the only way to get to Draupnir Cave is through a single rift in our elite zone, thanks to Beluslan's "guards in bottlenecks" approach to map design. And that rift just so happens to barely ever be up.

You still fail to realize WORLD BOSS is totally different than INSTANCED BOSS.

When you get in to the instance you can have a hot cup of tea and lazily chip of the health of the boss not needing to worry about opposite faction.

Phinyx · 11-15-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapla

You still fail to realize WORLD BOSS is totally different than INSTANCED BOSS.

When you get in to the instance you can have a hot cup of tea and lazily chip of the health of the boss not needing to worry about opposite faction.

Yes, I'm sure Bakarma is an easier boss fight than Zapiel/Jeshuchi/Blackheart. And there's always roaming groups of Asmo-countergankers running around in the Indratu Barracks just waiting to wipe your worldboss raid out.

Get real, the only things you have to work out are timing the respawn, getting all your people directed towards whatever rift is up, and mopping up whatever other groups are there to try and take the boss (none of these should be a problem for an organized guild). Wipe an enemy raid, and there's no way in hell they'll be able to get back before you've downed the boss. If you can't manage to kill an enemy boss raid party, then tough luck, PvP happened.

11-07-2009, 03:43 AM	#16 (permalink)
faction Great General Join Date: Sep 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Faction Class: Assassin Legion: david bowie Race: Elyos Server: Azphel	Kromede weapons don't have attackspeed. Don't post if you're retarded. __________________

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faction Great General Join Date: Sep 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Faction Class: Assassin Legion: david bowie Race: Elyos Server: Azphel	Anyone decent would realize it's already implied, since no weapons past lvl 45 are even worth considering if they don't have attackspeed... Try to save face all you want, you're wrong. __________________

11-08-2009, 07:18 AM	#21 (permalink)
lsdlsdlsd Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Serjah Class: Assassin Legion: TheBlackHand Race: Elyos Server: Perento	world bosses are the most useless thing in a MMO, no skill required to kill, zerg 2 win bosses with such phat loot should be instanced, with a decent CD on the instance, and hard to kill __________________

11-07-2009, 05:53 PM	#19 (permalink)
Evil Fluffy Officer Join Date: Oct 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Race: Undecided Server: Azphel	Ignore faction (literally, use the forum's ignore function). Zapiel's in Heiron but it's not like it's some quick run to check, it's a pain in the *** and it's not like rifts to hieron are rare. An asmo group can rift and hit it. It's one of the few worthwhile people to kil. Bollveig could be worth killing as well, however the gear's not as good as what comes from others. The difficulty for Asmo to reach Zapiel evens out the difficulty we have getting to Draup.

11-12-2009, 04:20 PM	#22 (permalink)
Azzer Soldier Join Date: Sep 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Character: Azzer Class: Assassin Legion: Immortalis Noctis Race: Asmodians Server: Gorgos	Just to those Elyos that said Asmo's had it easy as we can just rift in to your bosses... did this include the fact that the "invisible bridge" apparently only shows sparkles to Elyos players, so Asmo's have no way safely across? 24 full raid sparkles didn't show up for anyone day or night. Anyway, whatever any Elyos are trying to claim to "defend" their bosses saying it's balanced (and some crazies saying that Asmo's have it easier, and some horse-blinkered people thinking the only loot that matters is extendable weapon loot), I'd swap the boss situation any day. Ah well. QQ over.

11-13-2009, 05:24 AM	#24 (permalink)
Kapla Star Officer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Finland Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Character: Cron Class: Gladiator Legion: Afternoon Delight Race: Asmodians Server: Spatalos	All Alukina vs. Zapiel arguments can be nullified by the fact that we have these two easily farmable bosses: Elyos: Unstable Triroan - NPCs - Aion Asmodians: Lord Lannok - NPCs - Aion Both these bosses almost as good 1h extendables than Alukina. Nobody in the game drops a polearm even near to Zapiels.

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