Healers are OTT

Reavan · 10-08-2009, 09:45 PM

Really.

Just spent half an hour trying to fight a chanter whom was one level above me, he just practically stood there pressing Healing Light.

Purple · 10-08-2009, 10:17 PM

What else was he going to do between silence and roots/snare?

Kohveras · 10-08-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple

What else was he going to do between silence and roots/snare?

mad deeps?

i've got nothin =(

Reavan · 10-08-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple

What else was he going to do between silence and roots/snare?

This guy was not exactly a good player, Did not pot snare, did not fly to catch up nothing really.
Practicaly stood there healing healing and when a snare got resisted he'd try run after me then.

The exact same thing happend to me about 4 days ago with another chanter, i put that down to the 5 level gap but seeing the exact same thing with a guy only one level above is pathetic.
30min battles are not fun when either side gets no leeway- if that guy knew what to do with his class it would not surprise me if i fell flat on my face under no time at all

Team Game? healers are OTT in there too, exact same thing, spam the healing spell.

Gremio · 10-08-2009, 10:54 PM

Yup, just duelled a friends cleric a few times on my glad, he wiped the floor with my glads face so much it's not even funny... The root spamming and burst is ridiculous... Oo

Reavan · 10-08-2009, 10:57 PM

Clerics are another thing >_> Its like comparing a god and a mortal from Cleric to Chanter but i see chanters whining so much on their forum that they are bad 1v1.

Bad 1v1- but can last half an hour by spamming a single skill.

Baast · 10-08-2009, 10:58 PM

Now imagine if you were a templar against that chanter, omg... But then the chanter could have complained too : "I kept stunning and knockbacking and damage dealing that templar, but he just used a lesser healing potion here and there and stood up for hours, templars are so OTT".

Versus chanter, burst/sleep/silence/burst, and if that's not enough run away, because you don't have knockbacks like glads or stuns like sins or fear like SM.. As a ranger, your easy targets are sins (free AP?), sorcs and glads, not chanters. And don't go put OOP or OTT posts just because you can't win a fight against a same lvl player of whatever class (and actually, as far a class balance is concerned, at 42+ I think the well played chanters will have an edge on you 1vs 1, not just stalemates, just deal with it.. if you want to have it somewhat easy against chanters, play a SM or a sorc. SM is like "I'm designed to deal with healers (even clerics) and make them have nightmares").

Reavan · 10-08-2009, 11:16 PM

I would not mind if they had the edge (if they do at later levels) as long as it comes in the form of them using some skill to do so.
Not simply spaming bloody healing light until the sky comes down!

Phinyx · 10-09-2009, 12:12 AM

One thing to bear in mind - heals don't scale with gear. So when you have your +10 Gold Pwnbow of Curbstomping, you should be able to mow through their HP much faster (especially via burst). Heals seem overpowered right now because quite frankly, they are - they're meant to scale to the needs of endgame group PvP, not 1v1 at level 30.

Altwight · 10-09-2009, 12:20 AM

Assassins have no problems with clerics or chanters ^_^ Atleast I don't.

Reavan · 10-09-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Phinyx

One thing to bear in mind - heals don't scale with gear. So when you have your +10 Gold Pwnbow of Curbstomping, you should be able to mow through their HP much faster (especially via burst). Heals seem overpowered right now because quite frankly, they are - they're meant to scale to the needs of endgame group PvP, not 1v1 at level 30.

Yea i know. Don't know what to think.
This is 30-40 range (for me) and i guess its not end game.
All i am saying if it turns out much the same with good end game gear levels... people will whine alot more than they do now. Me included! :P

It would be much easier if heals did scale with gear, then they would not be so damm big for low levels right now and not to mention healers would have more of a reason to get new gear.

Kaedan94 · 10-09-2009, 01:04 AM

Man, Chanter's aren't OTT in any way. So what if chanters can survive for a long time...? they also can't kill very well either. They're very similar to a Templar in 1 on 1 PvP... hard to kill, but you're not really in danger of being killed either.

Reavan · 10-09-2009, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaedan94

Man, Chanter's aren't OTT in any way. So what if chanters can survive for a long time...? they also can't kill very well either. They're very similar to a Templar in 1 on 1 PvP... hard to kill, but you're not really in danger of being killed either.

This is mostly my main points- 30 min 1v1 fights suck.

Kaedan94 · 10-09-2009, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Reavan

This is mostly my main points- 30 min 1v1 fights suck.

The game is optimized for group PvP, not 1 vs 1.

Yushi · 10-09-2009, 01:32 AM

Chanter > Cleric anytime end-game

PREPARE FOR THE 2K+HIT WITH 4SECOND STUN ON 12SEC COOLDOWN!

people are going to cry

10-08-2009, 09:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Reavan Star Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Character: Reavan Class: Ranger Legion: Resurgence Race: Asmodians Server: Telemachus	Healers are OTT Really. Just spent half an hour trying to fight a chanter whom was one level above me, he just practically stood there pressing Healing Light. __________________ !tsaeb yxes uoy The Gank Fairy

10-08-2009, 10:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Gremio Officer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Germany Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Class: Gladiator Race: Elyos Server: Votan	Yup, just duelled a friends cleric a few times on my glad, he wiped the floor with my glads face so much it's not even funny... The root spamming and burst is ridiculous... Oo __________________ Final Fantasy XI: BRD75, DRG75 ~Retired~ World Of Warcraft: Warlock 80, Death Knight 80 ~Retired~

10-08-2009, 10:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Reavan Star Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Character: Reavan Class: Ranger Legion: Resurgence Race: Asmodians Server: Telemachus	Clerics are another thing >_> Its like comparing a god and a mortal from Cleric to Chanter but i see chanters whining so much on their forum that they are bad 1v1. Bad 1v1- but can last half an hour by spamming a single skill. __________________ !tsaeb yxes uoy The Gank Fairy

10-08-2009, 10:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
Baast Daeva Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Paris Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: PsycheJade Class: Chanter Legion: Sanctity Race: Elyos Server: Telemachus	Now imagine if you were a templar against that chanter, omg... But then the chanter could have complained too : "I kept stunning and knockbacking and damage dealing that templar, but he just used a lesser healing potion here and there and stood up for hours, templars are so OTT". Versus chanter, burst/sleep/silence/burst, and if that's not enough run away, because you don't have knockbacks like glads or stuns like sins or fear like SM.. As a ranger, your easy targets are sins (free AP?), sorcs and glads, not chanters. And don't go put OOP or OTT posts just because you can't win a fight against a same lvl player of whatever class (and actually, as far a class balance is concerned, at 42+ I think the well played chanters will have an edge on you 1vs 1, not just stalemates, just deal with it.. if you want to have it somewhat easy against chanters, play a SM or a sorc. SM is like "I'm designed to deal with healers (even clerics) and make them have nightmares"). Last edited by Baast; 10-08-2009 at 11:01 PM..

10-08-2009, 11:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
Reavan Star Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Character: Reavan Class: Ranger Legion: Resurgence Race: Asmodians Server: Telemachus	I would not mind if they had the edge (if they do at later levels) as long as it comes in the form of them using some skill to do so. Not simply spaming bloody healing light until the sky comes down! __________________ !tsaeb yxes uoy The Gank Fairy

10-08-2009, 10:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Purple Star Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Calgary Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Character: Purple Class: Chanter Legion: Nah U a Bat Race: Asmodians Server: Azphel	What else was he going to do between silence and roots/snare?

10-09-2009, 12:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
Phinyx General Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Illinois Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Character: Nyxia Class: Sorcerer Legion: Ultima Race: Elyos Server: Azphel	One thing to bear in mind - heals don't scale with gear. So when you have your +10 Gold Pwnbow of Curbstomping, you should be able to mow through their HP much faster (especially via burst). Heals seem overpowered right now because quite frankly, they are - they're meant to scale to the needs of endgame group PvP, not 1v1 at level 30. __________________

10-09-2009, 12:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
Altwight Officer Join Date: Dec 2008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Altwight Class: Assassin Race: Elyos Server: Undecided	Assassins have no problems with clerics or chanters ^_^ Atleast I don't.

10-09-2009, 01:04 AM	#12 (permalink)
Kaedan94 Star Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Race: Elyos	Man, Chanter's aren't OTT in any way. So what if chanters can survive for a long time...? they also can't kill very well either. They're very similar to a Templar in 1 on 1 PvP... hard to kill, but you're not really in danger of being killed either. __________________ It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. - William G. McAdoo

10-09-2009, 01:32 AM	#15 (permalink)
Yushi Officer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Montreal Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Character: Yushi Class: Cleric Legion: Benny Lava Race: Elyos Server: Undecided	Chanter > Cleric anytime end-game PREPARE FOR THE 2K+HIT WITH 4SECOND STUN ON 12SEC COOLDOWN! people are going to cry __________________

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