Spiritmasters

[lucifear]

Originally Posted by Thadeus

And so it begins! Sadly, I'm pretty sure every single SM saw this coming. Fear Shriek is lulz right now as it had everyone up in arms earlier tonight.

As we were trading blows in lower abyss near the teleporter, Asmos brought 4 SMs. Suffice to say, it was hilarious. Chain Fear shriek and the chat simply lit up with, "OMG", "WTF" and "SMs are so OP".

Originally Posted by Veles

Wait, you are trying to defend the fact that for instance Dredgion is practically unplayable because of AOE fear.

One Spiritmaster can easily wipe the whole team with it - AOE fear >>> Aggro from all mobs >>> Death to everyone.

I can agree that Spiritmaster should be probably buffed up to be competitive enough in end game PVP, but fear in this game is OP.

Originally Posted by Veles

You obviously know the class better then me, but I think that we can agree that fear should break on damage, like every other CC in this game?

Btw, Cleric can get feared also and if Spiritmaster somehow resists CC then it is GG. I saw a premade with Templar having Bodyguard on Spiritmaster and that combo is just silly.

Originally Posted by Derrien

aoe fear is overpowered in group vs group pvp.

QFT

nice to see reasoning from other players, the SM thread about fear in their class forums is kind of a joke sometimes with the dumb arguments about fear being so ballanced, that SMs really really really need it and cant live without it, and its "easily" countered by having a cleric who is not feared (so you might as well want to have 2 bot clericslaves following you everywhere just in case a SM pops up) to clear it up from you

[Veles]

The worst argument so far was that this game is not built around 1 vs. 1

It still eludes me what does AOE fear have to do with 1 vs. 1...

[bzt]

Same people complaining about Fear in every topic. With nerfed Fear SM will become the most gimped class out there. And it's not a big deal as everyone gets better equipment and such. SMs is already the weakest in endgame despite their fears. So changing something here will require complete revamp.

[Laurix]

They're not OP.

Fast-forward to 3 months from now. The more Abyss gear people have, the worse SM's get.

Why? They're pet doesn't scale at all, and while everyone keeps doing more and more damage with their new gear/weapons - SM's get the short end of the stick.

[lucifear]

they can have whatever problems in the world, nothing justifies completelly shuting down a player making useless to even try to react or do anything to prevent it

fear needs to be fixed
SMs other issues need to be fixed, like stacking DoTs and maybe pets
among other things

[Veles]

Originally Posted by lucifear

they can have whatever problems in the world, nothing justifies completelly shuting down a player making useless to even try to react or do anything to prevent it

fear needs to be fixed
SMs other issues need to be fixed, like stacking DoTs and maybe pets
among other things

Not shutting down a player, shutting down whole groups of players with one skill.

As I have said SM probably needs to be buffed to be competitive at end game PVP, but not on expense of other players enjoyment.

[Laurix]

Originally Posted by lucifear

they can have whatever problems in the world, nothing justifies completelly shuting down a player making useless to even try to react or do anything to prevent it

fear needs to be fixed
SMs other issues need to be fixed, like stacking DoTs and maybe pets
among other things

It's been said over and over; this isn't balanced around 1v1.

But hey, I do feel like it's stupid there is no DR on it. Maybe let it break early on a % of damage?

I can careless, honestly. Like I said - they'll fall short end-game.

[Naritzia]

Nothing wrong with fear, just learn to play against a good CC class.

[lucifear]

Originally Posted by Naritzia

Nothing wrong with fear, just learn to play against a good CC class.

yeah, all you have to do is simply be a cloth user 10 lvls above to maybe resist it and have a chance of using a single skill during the fight

[calle]

Originally Posted by Naritzia

Nothing wrong with fear, just learn to play against a good CC class.

You dont think its broken that you can potentially shut down a player for like 40 seconds? Honestly, take a step back and really think about it. Nothing wrong?

Really?

[Nya]

I killed a spiritmaster 2 days ago. The fight went like this:
I am running in upper abyss. SM came from behind (didnt see him not even "chatradar" noticed him)
Fear, Fear over, i use wings, he has to use them too.
Fear, Fear over, pots+wind serum
Fear, Fear over, Soul strike, fail
Fear, Fear over, pots+wind serum
Fear, Fear over, Soul strike, fail
Fear, Fear over, pots+wind serum
Fear, Fear over, Soul strike, stunned, got to him, hit him
Fear, Fear over, pots+wind serum
Fear, wind serum, Fear, wind serum
and that went for some time

untill the SM fell down and i won!

[lollwut]

I do think fear is overpowered, but if you took it away from SM they would be totally gimp. The aoe fear requires you to be within 15m of the sm too, the fears mostly have cast times etc... What i find far more annoying is the crit->stun/knockback thing with glads and rangers.

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Originally Posted by calle

You dont think its broken that you can potentially shut down a player for like 40 seconds? Honestly, take a step back and really think about it. Nothing wrong?

Really?

Well it's not like he would be pumping out massive (relative) dps at the same time. Also, play against experienced group, they would take care of the sm, have a cleric who knows how to dispel, etc. Pretty sure SM are currently one of the least played classes already.

[lucifear]

actually a SM is anything but "bad"

try getting chainfeared once and raped by a SM while you cant do a thing to prevent it

if the SM is any good, even a templar will die before he can pop EA if he get caught in the fear ***gotry

also, sorc 3k DP skill=AoE 5m sleep that gets dispelled on any damage or ticks.....lolwut?

[pulupulu]

There is plenty of ways to stop it.

This thread is just QQ.

[lucifear]

Originally Posted by pulupulu

There is plenty of ways to stop it.

This thread is just QQ.

yes, plenty~