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Old 08-27-2009, 11:15 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Meh.. you guys make it sound too hard, you can kite in a tight location by simply going back and forth and when you cross the mob use Focused Evasion skill, this is how I kite while watching tv and farming lvl50 elite balaur, works vs anything else melee.

Can also throw in a sleep once in a while to prep some traps if you like.

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Old 08-27-2009, 11:20 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Yup that's how I also kite unless I actually have the luxury to kite wide without getting adds on me T_T </3
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:18 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Meh.. you guys make it sound too hard, you can kite in a tight location by simply going back and forth and when you cross the mob use Focused Evasion skill, this is how I kite while watching tv and farming lvl50 elite balaur, works vs anything else melee.

Can also throw in a sleep once in a while to prep some traps if you like.
Eh mate how long you think Aion will keep your attention with Elites.PVE you can make all the mistakes you want,do silly stuff like run back to your target(this is new to me).

Sleep a player and what ya gonna do if he pots out of it?Die?

Try that on a Glad with MACC stacked and see how long you stay alive.
This is a PvP game at its core.The whole endgame is weaved involving it.
I totally agree its not that hard>its just human nature to resit change and I am starting to understand that.But to downplay the need for the ability to kite is pretty redundant to the classes whole design.
And what your doing is not considered kiting:P

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Old 08-27-2009, 09:04 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Question, does having your back facing an assassin not usually mean death? I mean in pvp with one I would use the backing kiting method, but nearer to the end of the fight I use the backstep kiting to finish him off. Worked thus far.
I was wondering about that too.

Doesn't the auto face makes it very difficult for assassins to get to the back of your opponent when all they have to do is to spam the normal attack button?
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Old 08-27-2009, 09:06 PM   #20 (permalink)
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3.2 Skills (instant cast)
Entangling Shot I would be your first such skill, and again there's two method to use such skills while kiting.

Method 1:
Refer to Method 1 for auto attack. Some instant cast skills doesn't even require you to release the movement buttons (Arrow Strike I).

Method 2:
When you're running (forward) away from your target, jump, hit the skill after the highest point of the jump (timing depends on latency too), land and continue moving whichever direction you like.
In closed beta i could fire entangling shot over my shoulder on the run without bothering to jumpturn or any other nonsense

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Sleep a player and what ya gonna do if he pots out of it?Die?
I was under the impression sleep could not be potted

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Old 08-27-2009, 09:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I know, thats why the "Some instant cast skills doesn't even require you to release the movement buttons (Arrow Strike I)"

I'll recheck everything on open beta, and does anyone have a better term for the two kinds of skills instead of "instant cast"?
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Old 08-27-2009, 09:24 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I know, thats why the "Some instant cast skills doesn't even require you to release the movement buttons (Arrow Strike I)"

I'll recheck everything on open beta, and does anyone have a better term for the two kinds of skills instead of "instant cast"?
ahh i thought i was supposed to time my jump based off of latency
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Old 08-27-2009, 10:46 PM   #23 (permalink)
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More "time your skill during a jump based on latency"?

Anyways, I've just updated the guide with more sections, still tons to be done.
Thanks a lot for all the help and comments guys, hope it'd be useful some.
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Old 08-28-2009, 12:20 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:02 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Nice guide, but I must say it may have been better for the ranger community to figure this out on their own? This is to separate the best and brightest from the dunces during retail! I actually had figured all of this our on my own during closed beta, even the jumpshot, of which I was unaware until I read some of Elliot's posts at AbyssAddict. Again, nice guide but I do feel a little robbed that people can just gawk at the info without any thinking! I'm sure some of us can relate (right?) hahaha.

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Old 08-28-2009, 04:02 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Thanks, I agree on the fact that you can gather most of the stuff just playing the game, but I bet I wouldn't have learnt about the real Jump Shot and auto attack weaving (maybe) if I never read the posts about it.

Having better rangers around also gives us better rep when we pug too.

And most importantly..... I won't be playing ranger anymore!! Mwaa haa haa haa!!!


On a serious note, I've just did an update and the rest of the information would have to wait till open beta to be completed I guess. If there's anything else I missed about kiting, do tell!
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:54 AM   #27 (permalink)
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will be a hard time to practise all the jump shoting and auto attack weaving in obt :<

hte auto attack weaving was new to me either, comes handy
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:12 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Have a look at this video from Takyn
YouTube - Aion 25 Ranger PvE

The second and fourth skills are great examples of a Jump Shot, and the sixth skill is a failed Jump Shot (at about 0:17).
lol what a failranger.. Not much better than the youtube rangers who kite backwards!
I dont get why people still manually turn their view/character around with their mouse, just hit the skill button or auto-attack button and the character auto-turns and shoots a volley in half a second.
Its like nobody realizes that even this close to release. Even though its soo simple to figure out when playing :P

1. W to run away from mob.
2. Hit a skill button or auto-attack.
3. W to run away again after 0.5 sec, before the animation even started playing.
4. profit?? no need to jump, no need to turn. figured that out at lvl 12 :P

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Old 08-28-2009, 06:23 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Eh mate how long you think Aion will keep your attention with Elites.PVE you can make all the mistakes you want,do silly stuff like run back to your target(this is new to me).

Sleep a player and what ya gonna do if he pots out of it?Die?

Try that on a Glad with MACC stacked and see how long you stay alive.
This is a PvP game at its core.The whole endgame is weaved involving it.
I totally agree its not that hard>its just human nature to resit change and I am starting to understand that.But to downplay the need for the ability to kite is pretty redundant to the classes whole design.
And what your doing is not considered kiting:P
o_o...hes obviously only talking about PvE. You might find it silly to run back to your target to kite the opposite direction, but that's probably because you haven't solo Elites above 35. Since you are going to play as an Elyos >.> You will be having lots of fun at HQ or LCS. ^_^ HQ is a must to farm molars and trade them for your Guardian Commando's Leather Shoes - Items - Aion set~ & to solo there you will be required to do this to farm efficiently.

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lol what a failranger.. Not much better than the youtube rangers who kite backwards!
I dont get why people still manually turn their view/character around with their mouse, just hit the skill button or auto-attack button and the character auto-turns and shoots a volley in half a second.
Its like nobody realizes that even this close to release. Even though its soo simple to figure out when playing :P

1. W to run away from mob.
2. Hit a skill button or auto-attack.
3. W to run away again after 0.5 sec, before the animation even started playing.
4. profit?? no need to jump, no need to turn. figured that out at lvl 12 :P
>_< maybe hes doing it so we can see the damage on the target lol x_X at least that's what I sometimes do when I upload a video so people don't have to stare at my smexy back all the time~ ^-^ cool input though I'm sure it will help some readers!

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Old 08-28-2009, 09:05 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Sleep a player and what ya gonna do if he pots out of it?Die?
You can't pot out of sleep arrow.. and yeah, what I said was about pve only
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