[Poll] Stealth Vs. Faster Movement Speed.

[dalavita]

Originally Posted by Zxya

Thats kinda stupid one of the reasons i like lineage2 more then wow

How on earth can warriors with 20000kilograms of armor run as fast a an assassin or ranger in leather ?

Stronger more explosive legs due to wearing said armor over several years?

[Zxya]

Originally Posted by dalavita

Stronger more explosive legs due to wearing said armor over several years?

lol thats like saying that a pro weight lifter can own a 100m runner because hes training with heavy stuff all day

[dalavita]

Originally Posted by Zxya

lol thats like saying that a pro weight lifter can own a 100m runner because hes training with heavy stuff all day

Surprisingly enough, tests have shown that pro weight lifters have more explosive legs than those 100m runners. They lack the specific body and technique required for 100m running on the other hand.

Also, who are you calling a 100m sprinter, a rogue or scout creeping around in stealth half their lives?

And a warrior can't be compared to a weight lifter. A warrior is a MMA-combatant who practiced fighting with heavy armor on him constantly.

[Zxya]

Originally Posted by dalavita

Surprisingly enough, tests have shown that pro weight lifters have more explosive legs than those 100m runners. They lack the specific body and technique required for 100m running on the other hand.

idd so do warriors they lack the specific body and technique to run hard because they have to wear that armor.

[dalavita]

Originally Posted by Zxya

idd so do warriors they lack the specific body and technique to run hard because they have to wear that armor.

As I said before, warriors are fighters, not body-builders. They fight with the heavy armor, they're used to the heavy armor. This does not make them as agile and thus they won't be able to dodge as easy as people with lower weight on themselves, but when it comes to sprints and charge moves they got the best leg muscles of all the classes to support it.

Also, heavy armor spread evenly out throughout the body and the physical strength to support it is not a liability for mobility, but this is getting out of topic...

[Hexxeity]

Originally Posted by Calindor

stealth should be in no video game

Finally something we agree on! (Maybe.)

Can anyone tell me some more details about how Aion implements Stealth? I know it only works for 20 sec and has a 30 sec cooldown, so maybe it's not as big a deal as it has been in other games. I guess I need to see it in action before deciding.

What I'm saying is, I'm inclined to agree with Calindor on this, but if Stealth doesn't overshadow the whole PvP battlefield as it always has in the past, I could be convinced to change my mind about it.

[Dynasty]

Originally Posted by Hexxeity

What I'm saying is, I'm inclined to agree with Calindor on this, but if Stealth doesn't overshadow the whole PvP battlefield as it always has in the past, I could be convinced to change my mind about it.

As far as i know, Stealth has less emphasis in Aion compared to other MMO's out there. I'm not sure now, from your last post im starting to think that maybe it's a good thing too. As you said, it would be interesting to see the effect of Stealth when it's not a deciding factor in PvP but a contributing one.

[Drazx]

Originally Posted by Dynasty

As most of you know, most MMORPG's these days incorporate skills for Rangers that allow either invisibility (stealth), faster movement speed, or both. So i was interested to know which one you would prefer if you were only allowed one.

Personally i prefer skills that boost movement speed, as they come in handy in PvP and in Travel. But i also see the added benefits of being able to stealth as a ranger in PvP situations. On the otherhand PvE'ers would have no real use of stealthmode other than to prevent being ganked while AFK in the Abyss. Plus theres the good chance that movement speed or stealth can be gained through buffs from other classes..

What do you guys prefer and why?

Speed .... Why in any fight from real life fighting to mmo the quickest is the winner. You can have the biggest or best Sword or gun if you can not use it fast enough your dead. Its like a fight between a big guy and a small guy .... You have to be able to hit your target. Speed is the winner in any battle. Speed make you counter quickly and able to dodge or evade very well. Stealth is ok if those with no skill at all. >.< he he But all you need is a spell or a buff to see them and your good and they are dead. But even if you can not get that buff its not like they can stay in stealth forever. That one sneck attack better do the job right or they are dead anyways. >

[Randall_Wolfcry]

Just a quick reminder that this is not the real world. In the real world you can't sprout wings from your back.

Anyway. I agree that stealth would be useless for rangers, given that we've seen stealth makes you walk slow. Also the videos show stealth unveiling when you attack. Since you're slow you can't keep your distance from the enemy. Stealth is useful to assassins because it lets you get behind your close ranged enemy and also go off the map for a sec to give your allies some extra time to heal your fragile body.

With stigmas you could probably get a stealth move anyway if you don't get a skill already for being a scout, but I think there are other skills that might be more useful to a Ranger like perhaps the heavy armor stigma.

[justamemory]

Originally Posted by Randall_Wolfcry

Just a quick reminder that this is not the real world. In the real world you can't sprout wings from your back.

nor can you modify the formulas governing ability execution and stat influence and damage mitigation

[BahamutKaiser]

Stealth is a situational advantage which can only work to surprise or escape. Speed allows you a certain amount of surprise and even better escape just because you can move to and from opponents quickly, wile also allowing you to chase, kite, and outflank opponents. If you can outmove your opponent you have half the value of a cavalry unit, which is much more valuable than stealth, particularly in a game where your stealth isn't going to benifit you insta-slay opportunities without being detected.

[Shatterproof]

I'd take speed myself for all the aforementioned reasons. The only way I'd take stealth if I had the choice is if it was related to sniping in some way. Set a trap that roots a target, be stealthed to enable a longer ranged mass dmg opener, b00m headshot, then combat begins. Stealth would also have a slight advantage in PVP, as you lure an enemy to attack a single target and then assist them with ranged DPS. Speed is still the overall champ is it stands now though, IMO.

[Danxor]

Speed,i cant stand walking so slow

[Gutss]

I find it funny that a bunch of civilians who had never been in real combat are arguing about what's important in real combat.........

Not to mention the body is very efficient....you would be suprised as to how much weight the body can get used to. Especially

when trained to carry more weight around constantly.

Well no duh....some one who is 5 feet tall only weighing 100ish pounds versus some one who is 6 feet tall and weighing 200

pounds.....and yet be the same speed even though the second guy weighs twice as much! Why? Because his used to the extra

100 pounds.

[kevinc4]

all the (smart) people rolling ranger will want speed, and why not? As its been said before it will give them yet ANOTHER skill to keep distance between them and their enemies (as if sleep, pushbacks, traps, and slows arent enough) and what ranger doesn't want that? Can't really blame the people rolling ranger for wanting to improve their class at pvp even more.