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Old 10-12-2009, 03:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Abyss Ranger [Video] lv40 Mobs PVPVE

Made a second video, lemme know what you think ^^
I also wanna display the use of snare trap in this video, as the majority of players don't use it and think it's useless. It works like magic in pvp as well but not in this vid due to the players flying away. A poison arrow then snare>aerial will maximize your dps while immobilizing them, making 1v1 just about impossible to lose when you know how to play.
This isn't that impressive of a video as it is random frapsing of 20minutes of uncut gameplay, not a collection of amazingness put together.

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YouTube - Abyss Ranger 1/2
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YouTube - Abyss Ranger 2/2





edit: Video #3 Abyss Blaze Ranger [Video #3]

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Old 10-13-2009, 07:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Click to move? Really?

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Old 10-13-2009, 07:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Lots of people who are used to it prefer it. Games like RO / L2 etc were all click to move based.
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Click to move is great, but those videos aren't. You don't jump shot, you barely take advantage of the forward movement buff, the PvP parts were quite boring.

Next time: use a decent codec, don't show sub-optimal PvE, show real PvP fights (not something that just happened to show up near your grind spot).

EDIT: Saw your response to the "no jumpshot" comment in youtube. Sure it's not needed, especially if you don't want to maximize killing speed, but what do you have to show for it? You're grinding fortress guards and decided to make a video about it. Did you expect people to actually enjoy watching that? At least show that you can do more than the average player.

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Old 10-13-2009, 08:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Just a few days ago I was set on jumpshotting too but now that I got a great weapon I have to say - jumpshotting in pve will HURT your kill speed because you will be clipping your autoshot way too often.
There is virtually no need to do it, not even for the 10% dmg boost. Once you actually have to kite you obviously want to jumpshot to clip your skills animations and make use of th dmg boost but only until you can position yourself again and start weaving autoshots into your rotation.
there is no need to constantly jumpshot every pull you make like a lunatic.
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:42 AM   #6 (permalink)
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cLiCk tO mOvE iS ****

whats the point on feeding us with PvE grind ?
eitherway gz on fighting mobs of higher lv this time ><
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:53 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Just a few days ago I was set on jumpshotting too but now that I got a great weapon I have to say - jumpshotting in pve will HURT your kill speed because you will be clipping your autoshot way too often.
There is virtually no need to do it, not even for the 10% dmg boost. Once you actually have to kite you obviously want to jumpshot to clip your skills animations and make use of th dmg boost but only until you can position yourself again and start weaving autoshots into your rotation.
there is no need to constantly jumpshot every pull you make like a lunatic.
Play a level 50 Ranger: the last thing you'll want to do is actually having to auto shoot something. Normal mobs should die with your skills alone.*

Besides, I never miss my auto shots when jump shooting, so I don't really see the problem here. Just count 2 seconds before every auto shot (look at your combat log) and you'll do fine. Sure, I don't always jump shoot, but I always try to maximize the forward buff, and I always jump shoot with Devotion to maximize the amount of skills that fire during its duration.

*Disclaimer: not the case with Fortress Guards as they are 5 star mobs with improved HP, where auto shots may be beneficial. But I think you catch my drift. And auto shots are still useful no matter what, as you don't want to wait on cooldowns, but they are not as necessary as they are in the level 30-45 range.

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Old 10-13-2009, 09:09 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Made a second video, lemme know what you think ^^
I also wanna display the use of snare trap in this video, as the majority of players don't use it and think it's useless. It works like magic in pvp as well but not in this vid due to the players flying away. A poison arrow then snare>aerial will maximize your dps while immobilizing them, making 1v1 just about impossible to lose when you know how to play.
This isn't that impressive of a video as it is random frapsing of 20minutes of uncut gameplay, not a collection of amazingness put together.

Not embedding cause size would be too small.

Part 1
YouTube - Abyss Ranger 1/2
Part 2
YouTube - Abyss Ranger 2/2
I like them, thanks. The spot seems nice, so are your skills rotation, perhaps you could detail them (spot + skills rotation).

Why did you choose Click-2-Move ?

I hope you're gonna share more videos with us.
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Old 10-13-2009, 09:46 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Possibly the worst MMO video I've ever seen.

What a waste of time.

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Old 10-13-2009, 10:01 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Play a level 50 Ranger: the last thing you'll want to do is actually having to auto shoot something. Normal mobs should die with your skills alone.*

Besides, I never miss my auto shots when jump shooting, so I don't really see the problem here. Just count 2 seconds before every auto shot (look at your combat log) and you'll do fine. Sure, I don't always jump shoot, but I always try to maximize the forward buff, and I always jump shoot with Devotion to maximize the amount of skills that fire during its duration.

*Disclaimer: not the case with Fortress Guards as they are 5 star mobs with improved HP, where auto shots may be beneficial. But I think you catch my drift. And auto shots are still useful no matter what, as you don't want to wait on cooldowns, but they are not as necessary as they are in the level 30-45 range.
You can't possibly jumpshot a chain skill with an auto in between. It's not possible. You can jump an autoshot sure, but not chains which at least until we get more skills is better for PvE. Once we get enough skills to actually kill something in one skill rotation, then sure jumpshot will be better again.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:06 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Click to move? Really?
I clicked the 1st movie, scrolled down and saw this post, i was like "wat lol?"

Then i opened the youtube screen, and saw him clicking to walk, and it all happend.

I was lolling soo hard, that i couldnt see anything through my tears, when i was done with crying out of laughing the movie was over
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:25 AM   #12 (permalink)
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You can't possibly jumpshot a chain skill with an auto in between. It's not possible. You can jump an autoshot sure, but not chains which at least until we get more skills is better for PvE. Once we get enough skills to actually kill something in one skill rotation, then sure jumpshot will be better again.
You're like the only one who gets it lol.

Nea, you said play a lv50 ranger, yeah by then jumping like a monkey will be useful, but Yael probably isn't 50, nor am I, therefore we play how we play to maximize dps until we get enough skills.
Like Bow said, most mmos used c2m so I'm used to that, I know the camera is ****** lol, can use WASD movement non-combat but I think there's no drawback at all when you use it in combat. Who knows, I might be a complete noob =x

look up lvl 50 korean ranger solo pve, click to move, everyone on AS go flame him for being a noob, nowwwwww, go.
also note use of JS on swift combo, rarely. no duh you would use it for the other skills and burst a mob to death. note moving speed, can just run and hop a lil, no need to run a lot like me w little moving speed. I just got the stupid 37 boots ystdy xP

"Next time: use a decent codec, don't show sub-optimal PvE, show real PvP fights (not something that just happened to show up near your grind spot)."
I wrote in the beginning "This isn't that impressive of a video as it is random frapsing of 20minutes of uncut gameplay, not a collection of amazingness put together." + Use of Snare Trap. Some people wanna see this vid anyway, regardless of how ****** it is haha, I also fast forwarded where nothing's going on to make it easier to watch ;x
I know the quality is awful idk why, the encode looks amazing. Youtube says "H.264, MPEG-2 or MPEG-4 preferred." It's 4:3 720x480 Mpeg-2 8mil Bitrate DVD HQ Profile, I'll try .avi for the next one, when I'm 41 prolly.



edit: It's in HQ now, idk if you watched it in non-hq yesterday, it was either still processing or youtube had a maintenance thing. If you did watch it in HQ, then idk.

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Old 10-13-2009, 11:44 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Click to move is great, but those videos aren't. You don't jump shot, you barely take advantage of the forward movement buff, the PvP parts were quite boring.

Next time: use a decent codec, don't show sub-optimal PvE, show real PvP fights (not something that just happened to show up near your grind spot).

EDIT: Saw your response to the "no jumpshot" comment in youtube. Sure it's not needed, especially if you don't want to maximize killing speed, but what do you have to show for it? You're grinding fortress guards and decided to make a video about it. Did you expect people to actually enjoy watching that? At least show that you can do more than the average player.
Im gonna agree with this post. If you are NOT jumpshotting then you are NOT taking full advantage of the Rangers abilities. I understand it is NOT necessary, but it is ALWAYS useful.

Take for instance my dilemna, I am a 27 Ranger about to go 28, when I launch Devotion I only get 5 seconds to launch as much destructive sh*t at my opponent as I can, without JS you can MAYBE launch 2 skills. Currently as I am jumpshotting I can launch 4. Also if you were jumpshotting I am THOROUGHLY confident NONE of the PVE mobs would have EVER touched you.

No offense, but I am a n00b and even I had to learn it. You can ALWAYS find a use for it.

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You're like the only one who gets it lol.

Nea, you said play a lv50 ranger, yeah by then jumping like a monkey will be useful, but Yael probably isn't 50, nor am I, therefore we play how we play to maximize dps until we get enough skills.
Like Bow said, most mmos used c2m so I'm used to that, I know the camera is ****** lol, can use WASD movement non-combat but I think there's no drawback at all when you use it in combat. Who knows, I might be a complete noob =x

look up lvl 50 korean ranger solo pve, click to move, everyone on AS go flame him for being a noob, nowwwwww, go.


I wont flame him for being a n00b, but he jumpshots... YOU DONT.

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Old 10-13-2009, 12:49 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Im gonna agree with this post. If you are NOT jumpshotting then you are NOT taking full advantage of the Rangers abilities. I understand it is NOT necessary, but it is ALWAYS useful.

Take for instance my dilemna, I am a 27 Ranger about to go 28, when I launch Devotion I only get 5 seconds to launch as much destructive sh*t at my opponent as I can, without JS you can MAYBE launch 2 skills. Currently as I am jumpshotting I can launch 4. Also if you were jumpshotting I am THOROUGHLY confident NONE of the PVE mobs would have EVER touched you.

No offense, but I am a n00b and even I had to learn it. You can ALWAYS find a use for it.

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I wont flame him for being a n00b, but he jumpshots... YOU DONT.

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This is a kneejerk reaction to seeing someone not jumpshotting at later levels. People are spammed with guides on how to jumpshot, they like the fact it takes a bit of skill to do an not everyone can do it but fail to realize that autoweaveing BETWEEN COMBOS is BETTER DPS. Your movement bonus of 10% to BASE ATTACK (more like 4% damage) is nothing compared to extra autoshots. You can also keep the movement bonus anyway while perfectly autoweaveing so that tiny point is moot.

All I can say is actually try it sometime, you can still jumpshot in PvP or when kiting an elite and they resist your snare but perfect autoweaving is better DPS and kills faster plus it gives extra knockbacks on crits.
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Old 10-13-2009, 01:12 PM   #15 (permalink)
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"I wont flame him for being a n00b, but he jumpshots... YOU DONT."
He's 50.
I already said all there's to say, but you don't seem to read/understand any of my posts. lol ok mr.27, I'm sure your skills cooldown instantly, too.
I know it looks pro and more efficient, but again, it's not end-game.

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