Ranger burst class

[MadGelo]

only thing ranger got going for it is that it have a chance, unlike other classes, to actuly kill a sorc

its also very good at killing other rangers...wohooo

[The Cow King]

Originally Posted by xr0yc3x

Hahaha, you're trying too hard dude. Our retreating slash stuns and pushes us back further than blind leap first of all even if we have to hit a player with it to activate it.

Retreating Slash has a chance to stun. It's a range 0m stigma skill. When you're ankle snared for example, you can't even use it against extended weapons.

Blind leap = normal skill, ranged, 30 sec lower cd than rs, you lose the sorc as a target when they use it.

Does RS lose target focus as well? Nobody has ever used it against me. If it doesn't, then Blind Leap is much superior, probably is anyway.

[xr0yc3x]

Originally Posted by The Cow King

Retreating Slash has a chance to stun. It's a range 0m stigma skill. When you're ankle snared for example, you can't even use it against extended weapons.

Blind leap = normal skill, ranged, 30 sec lower cd than rs, you lose the sorc as a target when they use it.

Does RS lose target focus as well? Nobody has ever used it against me. If it doesn't, then Blind Leap is much superior, probably is anyway.

"But his cookie has five chocolate chips! Mine only has four!"

[mrJones]

Originally Posted by lucifear

Ayu is instashooting shitloads of 2k+ crits everywhere

almost all of those awesome 2K crits have 30 second cooldowns

[lucifear]

Originally Posted by mrJones

almost all of those awesome 2K crits have 30 second cooldowns

doesnt change the fact that the burst damage is far superior, and in PvP DPS doesnt mean anything, its all about bursting before a target can be healed

[mrJones]

Originally Posted by lucifear

doesnt change the fact that the burst damage is far superior, and in PvP DPS doesnt mean anything, its all about bursting before a target can be healed

sure, burst 1 quickly using all cooldowns, wait 30 seconds for them to up doing low damage
watch sorc kill 3 in those 30 seconds cause a lot no cooldowns/low cooldowns skills with great damage

[IshyIshy]

Originally Posted by mrJones

sure, burst 1 quickly using all cooldowns, wait 30 seconds for them to up doing low damage
watch sorc kill 3 in those 30 seconds cause a lot no cooldowns/low cooldowns skills with great damage

And that is if the sorc is allowed to stand and do what is needed. The video shows that both classes are on the move constantly and sorc is sometimes forced to stop DPSing and move a ranger does not run into this problem we are only restricted by our cooldowns not cast times.

Each class has its strong points and down points, personly I prefer to not be hindered by the one thing we were designed to do kiting.

[mrJones]

Originally Posted by IshyIshy

And that is if the sorc is allowed to stand and do what is needed. The video shows that both classes are on the move constantly and sorc is sometimes forced to stop DPSing and move a ranger does not run into this problem we are only restricted by our cooldowns not cast times.

Each class has its strong points and down points, personly I prefer to not be hindered by the one thing we were designed to do kiting.

Your kiting ability in air is not much different from sorcs.

and on ground, i wouldnt advise to fight sorcs ever. any sleep/curse of roots you dont evade is death for you, cause next will be aetherial hold that you cant evade.

[IshyIshy]

Originally Posted by mrJones

Your kiting ability in air is not much different from sorcs.

and on ground, i wouldnt advise to fight sorcs ever. any sleep/curse of roots you dont evade is death for you, cause next will be aetherial hold that you cant evade.

Yes in the air we do get rooted in the air but not to the same degree as a sorc, but you are right kiting in the air is as close as the two classes get in kiting technic.

Now I am curious if you speak from personal experience with ranger vs sorc. Yes the sorc has plenty of things we need to worry about (tree, sleep, aether's hold, inferno to name a few) but really it is not as one sided as it looks on paper. We have just as many things to disrupt them and they can not kite us, ours stuns and silence are enough to CC them to death. You can win threw 2 stone skins and tree/sleep (remember tree and sleep increases your magic resistence) aether's hold is what is instant death but it does have a cooldown. If sleep to hold gets you then you are dead but it will not happen everytime you fight a sorc.

[mrJones]

Originally Posted by IshyIshy

Yes in the air we do get rooted in the air but not to the same degree as a sorc, but you are right kiting in the air is as close as the two classes get in kiting technic.

Now I am curious if you speak from personal experience with ranger vs sorc. Yes the sorc has plenty of things we need to worry about (tree, sleep, aether's hold, inferno to name a few) but really it is not as one sided as it looks on paper. We have just as many things to disrupt them and they can not kite us, ours stuns and silence are enough to CC them to death. You can win threw 2 stone skins and tree/sleep (remember tree and sleep increases your magic resistence) aether's hold is what is instant death but it does have a cooldown. If sleep to hold gets you then you are dead but it will not happen everytime you fight a sorc.

CoR doesnt increase magic resistance if you mean Resist magic stat. Only elemental ones and for first hit which would be AH itself, all next hits aka 5-6 AF and magic fist in end wont benefit from elemental resists.

Other parts of your post are wrong as well. Silence will be potted asap and to get stuns you need get 2 lucks in row, first to crit, 2nd so crit will do stun.
Sorcs can stun you as well. bet u didnt knew this, ya?

[IshyIshy]

Originally Posted by mrJones

CoR doesnt increase magic resistance if you mean Resist magic stat. Only elemental ones and for first hit which would be AH itself, all next hits aka 5-6 AF and magic fist in end wont benefit from elemental resists.

Other parts of your post are wrong as well. Silence will be potted asap and to get stuns you need get 2 lucks in row, first to crit, 2nd so crit will do stun.
Sorcs can stun you as well. bet u didnt knew this, ya?

I like how I agreed with you that if AH hits then the ranger is dead and how you meantioned that the resistance is only to the first attack which would be AH and again IF it hits then yes again I agree with you the ranger is dead.

Now the other parts of my posts are wrong if you are bad enough to put silence up before maybe entangling shot or poison maybe so the pots hits those first nub.

And the sorc stun is a 4 second cast, instant > 4 second cast I bet you didn't know that did you?

EDIT: I just noticed that you completely ignored me calling you out that you have zero experience in this match up

[mrJones]

Originally Posted by IshyIshy

Now the other parts of my posts are wrong if you are bad enough to put silence up before maybe entangling shot or poison maybe so the pots hits those first nub.

at endgame you can remove 3 debuffs at once

i bet you didnt knew this, not-nub

Originally Posted by IshyIshy

And the sorc stun is a 4 second cast, instant > 4 second cast I bet you didn't know that did you?

Sorcs dont have 4 second cast stun, not-nub
Both (yes, they get 2 stuns) are instant.

Originally Posted by IshyIshy

EDIT: I just noticed that you completely ignored me calling you out that you have zero experience in this match up

please continue

p.s.
if you want to learn something new, just ask, no need to make yourself look silly because you dont know well-known facts.