Did this miss the mark more than WAR?

[Vember]

Originally Posted by dirtyklingon

and if you find grinding fun, there are many games that do it much better than aion.

That's because Aion isn't a grinding game. L2 is, FFXI is. Rep grind in Lotro and RR grind in War is worse than anything Aion has in the grind dept. imo.

That's my opinion at least.

[dirtyklingon]

lolz now i know you're trolling.

[Vember]

Originally Posted by dirtyklingon

lolz now i know you're trolling.

Not really. As has been pointed out before, grind is all about your perspective. Having played Lineage 2 for four years, obviously this game's "grind" to me is almost non existent, because, by comparison to L2, Aion has no grind at all.

Coming from different games, you may have a different perspective. However, i can assure you that RR grind in War and rep grind in Lotro, having done both , is far, far worse to me.

[LMAO]

No, I think here are the level of losers:

WAR
Aion
AoC
Vanguard


Aion's in second place.

[Necrophobia]

War was grinding to the max - Sorry but doing Tor Anroc was the biggest bore ever!

Wars class imbalance was ridiculous - look at the op'd Ironbreakers and Bright Wizards. Aion does not have that bad class imbalance

War had literlally crap end game pve content. I have not yet seen Aion's but it could not be any worse

War's stability is pathetci end of story

So all you war lovers, go back to it and let us enjoy Aion in peace!

[Nidien]

Originally Posted by Inzi

Thats pretty dumb opinion. People actually like this game until like 30's then they face a true and ugly face of the game and of course complain about it since they WANT to play the game.

Gtfo of here till you have more than 1 week of experience and at very least 35 level character.



There is no such thing as ballance in Aion. The fact that NCSoft had to cut all pvp damage by half in a hurry for EU/NA release only proves this point.

Preety dumb opinion as in? If you don't like the game, then don't play the damn thing, its pretty damn simple if you ask me. Once something starts to become a bore, guess what I don't play it anymore.

Are everyone's complaints legit in one manner or another? yes...why? because that's there opinion and what they want to see and what they hate, just like my post.

However, since I'm not level 35 and apparently you own these forums, I'll be back in a week....jackass.

[truep]

Originally Posted by LMAO

No, I think here are the level of losers:

WAR
Aion
AoC
Vanguard


Aion's in second place.

How is vanguard not first on a list of losers...

[Bt.]

War had more bugs at launch but was an overall more enjoyable game imo

The option to quest to cap or RvR to cap was a great one

In this you gotta press your macro key for 12 hours to get one level

Not fun or hard, just boring

[Machazareel]

Originally Posted by Vember

Not really. As has been pointed out before, grind is all about your perspective. Having played Lineage 2 for four years, obviously this game's "grind" to me is almost non existent, because, by comparison to L2, Aion has no grind at all.

Coming from different games, you may have a different perspective. However, i can assure you that RR grind in War and rep grind in Lotro, having done both , is far, far worse to me.

Really? I was under the impression that the AP grind to deck yourself out in the gold Abyss gear was a pretty lengthy process. WARs RR grind wasn't exactly a dance on roses, either, but my RR seemed to level relatively naturally while I did fun stuff. Or at least, it started out as fun. You can only claim a keep so many times before it starts to get old. From what I've been able to gather thus far, gaining AP in Aion is done through pretty much the same venues as RR was in WAR.

[wrajjt]

Originally Posted by Necrophobia

War was grinding to the max - Sorry but doing Tor Anroc was the biggest bore ever!

Wars class imbalance was ridiculous - look at the op'd Ironbreakers and Bright Wizards. Aion does not have that bad class imbalance

War had literlally crap end game pve content. I have not yet seen Aion's but it could not be any worse

War's stability is pathetci end of story

So all you war lovers, go back to it and let us enjoy Aion in peace!

1. Yeah, because Tor Anroc was the ONLY THING YOU COULD DO between lvl 22 and 32. Surely there were not 5 other scenarios to pick from, PLUS ORvR and ordinary PvE.

2. Class balance. Lulz. Cleric vs templar anyone? Sorc/SM vs gladiator/chanter? BWs were OP in a group, yes, but they are/were not very good solo. And IBs were never OPd, they were what all tanks were supposed to be.

3. This one I can agree on. Mythic definatly screwed up here, but then again, WAR was not styled towards PvE.

4. That's funny, considering Aion doesnt even run for 15 minutes straight without a crash for a lot of people in large scale battles. (Works fine for me though)

5. Because improving Aion is bad now is it?

WAR had alot of faults, but turning a blind eye towards the faults of Aion is just as bad as ignoring WARs faults.

edit: complaining about IBs and Tor Anroc, I'm not suprised if you ragequit the game after getting tossed into the lava of TA once or twice per scenario.

[Vember]

Originally Posted by Machazareel

Really? I was under the impression that the AP grind to deck yourself out in the gold Abyss gear was a pretty lengthy process. WARs RR grind wasn't exactly a dance on roses, either, but my RR seemed to level relatively naturally while I did fun stuff. Or at least, it started out as fun. You can only claim a keep so many times before it starts to get old. From what I've been able to gather thus far, gaining AP in Aion is done through pretty much the same venues as RR was in WAR.

You don't have to have gold abyss gear or even particularly need it..crafted gear is better. RR in War, on the other hand, was a requirement.

[Inzi]

Originally Posted by Vember

You don't have to have gold abyss gear or even particularly need it..crafted gear is better. RR in War, on the other hand, was a requirement.

WTS Clue.


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[Machazareel]

Originally Posted by Vember

You don't have to have gold abyss gear or even particularly need it..crafted gear is better. RR in War, on the other hand, was a requirement.

I'm pretty sure the PvE gear from raids didn't have RR requirements, but I guess I could be mistaken, as I never bothered with them. And as far as the PvP aspect is, Abyss gear is the only gear that directly reduces player damage, and increases damage done to players beyond the base stats. Whether or not that pushes the abyss gear above the crafted gear is not something I'm going to claim, either way, since I'm not at that point in the game yet.

[Vember]

Originally Posted by Inzi

WTS Clue.


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Don't sell it, you obviously need it more than anybody else here.

Originally Posted by Machazareel

I'm pretty sure the PvE gear from raids didn't have RR requirements, but I guess I could be mistaken, as I never bothered with them. And as far as the PvP aspect is, Abyss gear is the only gear that directly reduces player damage, and increases damage done to players beyond the base stats. Whether or not that pushes the abyss gear above the crafted gear is not something I'm going to claim, either way, since I'm not at that point in the game yet.

You're right, except in the case of RR i'm not talking about just gear, you needed RR for additional skills as well as gear. Top end abyss gear in this game is very close to top end crafted, it does provide player damage reduction and crafted gear gives more manastone slots. It balances out in the end, but the point is that grinding for abyss gear isnt' a requirement, as there are other means of gearing up comparably, which is a good thing

[Alumar]

Originally Posted by Inzi

WTS Clue.


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Just to interject- You post this reply quite often. It seems to be your "go to" reply. If you are going to post on the boards, please at least put a little effort into your posts, instead of just spamming the same sarcastic, completely inane response in multiple threads. That is just trolling/spamming.