Did this miss the mark more than WAR?

Zomi · 11-03-2009, 04:01 AM

Obviously a lot of the people that have already left probably are not checking in on forums for something they can care less about, but still...

Do you think WAR or AION was in better (or worse) shape after just a few weeks?

I'm going to have to say AION *shock* because it was already out for quite some time so it wasn't a new release and they had time to fix some of the glaring holes. Although as many said...like in WAR...the problems are so integral they can't really fix them without a big architectural redesign, which is why they never can be fixed

WAR did have more hype and advertising than this so in some ways that failed expectations more.

But I see WAR being able to attract new blood and have more of a 'future' than Aion.

Seems they had the codebase, so just localize it and dump it over there. Any $$$ is more than they would have had without it, minus the salaries for the 5 NCSoft West peeps.

Squizzo · 11-03-2009, 04:09 AM

Aion is in better shape than WAR ever was, WAR was full of bugs at release and had some severe stability issues. Comparitively Aion has very few problems, it just seems the Aion community is full of loud whiners who like nyerking about the most minor things.

Lewelle · 11-03-2009, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Squizzo

Aion is in better shape than WAR ever was, WAR was full of bugs at release and had some severe stability issues. Comparitively Aion has very few problems, it just seems the Aion community is full of loud whiners who like nyerking about the most minor things.

How minor is a critical error that keeps you out of one of the game's biggest events?

Inzi · 11-03-2009, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Squizzo

Aion is in better shape than WAR ever was, WAR was full of bugs at release and had some severe stability issues. Comparitively Aion has very few problems, it just seems the Aion community is full of loud whiners who like nyerking about the most minor things.

At least WAR wouldn't crush my game every time there is 50+ vs 50+ battles in RvR areas.

Veles · 11-03-2009, 04:31 AM

WAR beats Aion in any aspect of gameplay by far.

I was hoping that Aion will support large Fort fights (where WAR obviously failed), but now it is clear that WAR beats Aion even in aspect of server stability and performance.

Blog Monster · 11-03-2009, 04:32 AM

WAR just ran really bad on my computer, Aion runs like a um...it runs really well : )

Alizandro · 11-03-2009, 04:33 AM

forget gaming forums and read the busness section of news papers, profits are through the roof for nc so obviously a ton more ppl are coming to aion then leaving so was the mark missed? money dont lie.

Inzi · 11-03-2009, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Blog Monster

WAR just ran really bad on my computer, Aion runs like a um...it runs really well : )

WAR was running much better on mine (yes, its a bit outdated, yet still not that bad C2D 3Ghz / 6GB / 8800 GTS 512).

xoti · 11-03-2009, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Veles

WAR beats Aion in any aspect of gameplay by far.

I was hoping that Aion will support large Fort fights (where WAR obviously failed), but now it is clear that WAR beats Aion even in aspect of server stability and performance.

WAR better server stability now thats a joke surely

Inzi · 11-03-2009, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Alizandro

forget gaming forums and read the busness section of news papers, profits are through the roof for nc so obviously a ton more ppl are coming to aion then leaving so was the mark missed? money dont lie.

Game released a 1 month ago in EU/NA - what a great news.

Guess what? AoC had more than 1 mil subscribers on it's first month than somehow most of those subscriptions were closed.
Exactly what is already happening to Aion.

It's not hard to get a lot of subscriptions during the 1st one-two months, what is hard is to keep those players playing for more than 1-2 months.

BashNSmash · 11-03-2009, 04:37 AM

The first few months of WAR, you could not be involved in a large RvR fortress/keep battle without the server crashing. So, yes, aion is in a lot better shape than WAR has ever been.

edit: Let's not forget mass CTD problems WAR had.

Squizzo · 11-03-2009, 04:38 AM

Well I've never had a crash in Aion, though I understand fotress seige crashes affect a lot of people so I'll give you that. But from my personal experience I can run Aion with 10x less lag and rubber banding than WAR.
At least all the quests/mobs work properly in Aion, about 10% of quests were bugged in WAR at release, mob pathing was nyerked and animations frequently got stuck or didn't fire at all.
Yeah I'd definitely say Aion is in better shape.

Arazel · 11-03-2009, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Inzi

Game released a 1 month ago in EU/NA - what a great news.

Guess what? AoC had more than 1 mil subscribers on it's first month than somehow most of those subscriptions were closed.
Exactly what is already happening to Aion.

It's not hard to get a lot of subscriptions during the 1st one-two months, what is hard is to keep those players playing for more than 1-2 months.

You have the exact figures on in comming and canceled subs?

Inzi · 11-03-2009, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by xoti

WAR better server stability now thats a joke surely

Over 2 months haven't seen ANY server stability issues in the WAR.

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Originally Posted by Arazel

You have the exact figures on in comming and canceled subs?

I dont.
Just wait and see it yourself.

Quiana · 11-03-2009, 04:42 AM

Did Aion miss the mark? Aion was marketed as a PvPvE game created by an Asian gaming studio. We knew there was PvP and looked forward to it. We knew it would be on a massive scale which meant zerging. We knew it would include a lot of PvE content. And we knew it was developed by a company and in a country known for grindy games. Yes, they said they would westernize the game. Of course, I was hoping there would be more quests and that they would be more rewarding. But we knew there would be grinding, it would take a long time to level, the PvP would be zergy at times, and that there would be a ton of PvE content.

My question is, did NA players miss the mark when picking Aion?

11-03-2009, 04:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
Zomi Star Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Thanks: 4 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts Race: Elyos	Did this miss the mark more than WAR? Obviously a lot of the people that have already left probably are not checking in on forums for something they can care less about, but still... Do you think WAR or AION was in better (or worse) shape after just a few weeks? I'm going to have to say AION shock because it was already out for quite some time so it wasn't a new release and they had time to fix some of the glaring holes. Although as many said...like in WAR...the problems are so integral they can't really fix them without a big architectural redesign, which is why they never can be fixed WAR did have more hype and advertising than this so in some ways that failed expectations more. But I see WAR being able to attract new blood and have more of a 'future' than Aion. Seems they had the codebase, so just localize it and dump it over there. Any $$$ is more than they would have had without it, minus the salaries for the 5 NCSoft West peeps.

11-03-2009, 04:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
Squizzo Soldier Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Character: Mayumi Class: Ranger Race: Elyos Server: Telemachus	Aion is in better shape than WAR ever was, WAR was full of bugs at release and had some severe stability issues. Comparitively Aion has very few problems, it just seems the Aion community is full of loud whiners who like nyerking about the most minor things. __________________

11-03-2009, 04:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
Veles Star Officer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Croatia, Zagreb Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Veles Class: Templar Legion: The Committee Race: Elyos Server: Perento	WAR beats Aion in any aspect of gameplay by far. I was hoping that Aion will support large Fort fights (where WAR obviously failed), but now it is clear that WAR beats Aion even in aspect of server stability and performance. __________________ Proud leader of The Committee

11-03-2009, 04:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
Alizandro General Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Las Vegas Thanks: 4 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts Character: I have many. Class: Templar Legion: I fly solo. Race: Asmodians Server: Triniel	forget gaming forums and read the busness section of news papers, profits are through the roof for nc so obviously a ton more ppl are coming to aion then leaving so was the mark missed? money dont lie. __________________

11-03-2009, 04:38 AM	#12 (permalink)
Squizzo Soldier Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Character: Mayumi Class: Ranger Race: Elyos Server: Telemachus	Well I've never had a crash in Aion, though I understand fotress seige crashes affect a lot of people so I'll give you that. But from my personal experience I can run Aion with 10x less lag and rubber banding than WAR. At least all the quests/mobs work properly in Aion, about 10% of quests were bugged in WAR at release, mob pathing was nyerked and animations frequently got stuck or didn't fire at all. Yeah I'd definitely say Aion is in better shape. __________________

11-03-2009, 04:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
Blog Monster Star Officer Join Date: Jun 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Character: Brascus Vondraken Class: Gladiator Legion: Grand Theft Shugo Race: Asmodians	WAR just ran really bad on my computer, Aion runs like a um...it runs really well : )

11-03-2009, 04:37 AM	#11 (permalink)
BashNSmash Daeva Join Date: Oct 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Race: Undecided Server: Undecided	The first few months of WAR, you could not be involved in a large RvR fortress/keep battle without the server crashing. So, yes, aion is in a lot better shape than WAR has ever been. edit: Let's not forget mass CTD problems WAR had.

11-03-2009, 04:42 AM	#15 (permalink)
Quiana Officer Join Date: Sep 2009 Thanks: 12 Thanked 54 Times in 53 Posts Character: Quiana Class: Sorcerer Legion: Tempest Wolves Race: Asmodians Server: Zikel	Did Aion miss the mark? Aion was marketed as a PvPvE game created by an Asian gaming studio. We knew there was PvP and looked forward to it. We knew it would be on a massive scale which meant zerging. We knew it would include a lot of PvE content. And we knew it was developed by a company and in a country known for grindy games. Yes, they said they would westernize the game. Of course, I was hoping there would be more quests and that they would be more rewarding. But we knew there would be grinding, it would take a long time to level, the PvP would be zergy at times, and that there would be a ton of PvE content. My question is, did NA players miss the mark when picking Aion?

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