Ranger and Assn are not welcome in a group?

deathcalls · 08-18-2009, 09:10 PM

It is common among MMO that the Ranger and Assassin character are not very welcome in a group dungeon (PvE). Do to the fact that Assassin are not tank and very squishy (die alot) and doesn't do as much damage as a warrior. Then the Ranger, good for pulling and nothing else unless they have a massive amount of traps which on this game, they don't (not even a pet). Good PVE group dungeon are usually consist of tank, healer, nuker, and pets. Anything else is just addons. Remember I'm talking about Ranger and Assn in PVE group not PVP.

razattack · 08-18-2009, 09:12 PM

assasins are welcome in groups

rangers are rejects, DONT PLAY RANGER

UKproud · 08-18-2009, 09:13 PM

I dont know =/ If i was group leader id happily invite anybody as long as i knew they were not ninja or completly stupid. I like to be fair to all players since its peoples enjoyment your messing around with and they pay for the game as well. You would be pretty @@@@!!!! off if you were not invite into a group because of your class so why should people do that to other players.

STOOOPID some people are cruel

Sed · 08-18-2009, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathcalls

It is common among MMO that the Ranger and Assassin character are not very welcome in a group dungeon (PvE). Do to the fact that Assassin are not tank and very squishy (die alot) and doesn't do as much damage as a warrior. Then the Ranger, good for pulling and nothing else unless they have a massive amount of traps which on this game, they don't (not even a pet). Good PVE group dungeon are usually consist of tank, healer, nuker, and pets. Anything else is just addons. Remember I'm talking about Ranger and Assn in PVE group not PVP.

This is common among MMOs? Which MMOs exactly?

I haven't seen many of either class but I have grouped with Assassin and its damage was fine. I've never grouped with a ranger so I have no idea.

And like above poster I wouldn't reject somebody solely because of their class. I care more about competence and attitude in a group than who should theoretically be better.

delmoene · 08-18-2009, 09:14 PM

thought i heard most ppl saying they don't want pet classes b/c they'll tend to aggro

anyway i see no reason why anyone wouldn't want assassins, they're premiere dps

topkerrigun · 08-18-2009, 09:16 PM

the post under the OP post is complete fail

razattack · 08-18-2009, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topkerrigun

the post under the OP post is complete fail

if by fail you mean epic omega win then yes

Zish · 08-18-2009, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathcalls

It is common among MMO that the Ranger and Assassin character are not very welcome in a group dungeon (PvE). Do to the fact that Assassin are not tank and very squishy (die alot) and doesn't do as much damage as a warrior. Then the Ranger, good for pulling and nothing else unless they have a massive amount of traps which on this game, they don't (not even a pet). Good PVE group dungeon are usually consist of tank, healer, nuker, and pets. Anything else is just addons. Remember I'm talking about Ranger and Assn in PVE group not PVP.

How many MMO's have you played?

Generally, a group will consist of a Tank, a Healer, and any available DPS. In most MMO's, melee DPS is just as important as ranged/caster DPS.

Rangers and Assassins are probably some of the highest DPS in the game.

Scarlet · 08-18-2009, 09:26 PM

Thats why we hide in the shadows and be a loner :3

Kazuma · 08-18-2009, 09:27 PM

OP's post just confused me so much. In MMO's, Assassins and Ranger's didn't have THAT hard of a time to group o_o

deathcalls · 08-18-2009, 09:29 PM

Any serious (higher lev) group dungeon PvE player knows this and I've played enough to know those class are not very welcome even though they beg. People rather have an extra healer, nuker, or a backup tank. Unless the group desperately needed a player because they couldn't find what they are looking for. Also, I say they are not very welcome in a group not completely unwelcome.

Kazuma · 08-18-2009, 09:32 PM

This thread is ridiculous.

kaiden916 · 08-18-2009, 09:32 PM

I don't recall Rangers or Assissins being rejected from a group. Especially while I was playing one. I never had that problem of people saying no you can't join our group. To the OP, like some of the people saying here, any added DPS is always good.

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Originally Posted by Anthem

I don't allow them in my group since more than half the time they are either;

A.) Under the age of 16 or
B.) Asian and, thus, look like they are under the age of 16.

Do not want nor need.

Talk about being racist...Dumbass Troll

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Originally Posted by Kazuma

This thread is ridiculous.

+1

/10 toons

LaNague · 08-18-2009, 09:35 PM

i never had a problem in EQ2 with my assassin and didnt have any in aion....maybe your just terribad.

Emotions · 08-18-2009, 09:35 PM

A lot of times DPS have a 'hard' time getting into groups in PvE games because of how many there are.

I am curious about something. A lot of people in this thread and in others talk about the relative DPS of the DPS classes and I have to ask, how do you know?

There is no DPS meter and so far I haven't found an after-fight analysis tool either.

Are these just 'feelings' that people are having or is there something I'm missing?

08-18-2009, 09:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
deathcalls General Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: look under your bed! Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Character: none of your business Legion: Vendetta Race: Elyos Server: Ariel	Ranger and Assn are not welcome in a group? It is common among MMO that the Ranger and Assassin character are not very welcome in a group dungeon (PvE). Do to the fact that Assassin are not tank and very squishy (die alot) and doesn't do as much damage as a warrior. Then the Ranger, good for pulling and nothing else unless they have a massive amount of traps which on this game, they don't (not even a pet). Good PVE group dungeon are usually consist of tank, healer, nuker, and pets. Anything else is just addons. Remember I'm talking about Ranger and Assn in PVE group not PVP. __________________ I like adding "S"s after a word. What ya gonna do about it?

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deathcalls General Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: look under your bed! Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Character: none of your business Legion: Vendetta Race: Elyos Server: Ariel	Any serious (higher lev) group dungeon PvE player knows this and I've played enough to know those class are not very welcome even though they beg. People rather have an extra healer, nuker, or a backup tank. Unless the group desperately needed a player because they couldn't find what they are looking for. Also, I say they are not very welcome in a group not completely unwelcome. __________________ I like adding "S"s after a word. What ya gonna do about it? Last edited by deathcalls; 08-18-2009 at 09:35 PM..

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08-18-2009, 09:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
razattack General Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: You Hess And Eh, HIGH 5! Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 9 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts Character: raz Class: Ranger Race: Asmodians Server: Undecided	assasins are welcome in groups rangers are rejects, DONT PLAY RANGER

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UKproud Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: United Kingdom Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Character: UKproud Class: Spiritmaster Legion: Cyrus Race: Elyos Server: Perento	I dont know =/ If i was group leader id happily invite anybody as long as i knew they were not ninja or completly stupid. I like to be fair to all players since its peoples enjoyment your messing around with and they pay for the game as well. You would be pretty @@@@!!!! off if you were not invite into a group because of your class so why should people do that to other players. STOOOPID some people are cruel

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delmoene Officer Join Date: Jun 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Styr Class: Gladiator Legion: All Out Assault Race: Asmodians Server: Triniel	thought i heard most ppl saying they don't want pet classes b/c they'll tend to aggro anyway i see no reason why anyone wouldn't want assassins, they're premiere dps

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Scarlet Daeva Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Canada! Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Class: Assassin Legion: Don't have Race: Asmodians	Thats why we hide in the shadows and be a loner :3

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Kazuma Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Centreville, VA Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Character: Wilhelm Class: Ranger Legion: Apotheosis Race: Asmodians Server: Lumiel	OP's post just confused me so much. In MMO's, Assassins and Ranger's didn't have THAT hard of a time to group o_o

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Kazuma Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Centreville, VA Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Character: Wilhelm Class: Ranger Legion: Apotheosis Race: Asmodians Server: Lumiel	This thread is ridiculous.

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LaNague General Join Date: Jun 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Character: Cami (EQ2) Race: Asmodians Server: Undecided	i never had a problem in EQ2 with my assassin and didnt have any in aion....maybe your just terribad.

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Emotions Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Thanks: 3 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Class: Templar Legion: Hugs You Race: Elyos Server: Lumiel	A lot of times DPS have a 'hard' time getting into groups in PvE games because of how many there are. I am curious about something. A lot of people in this thread and in others talk about the relative DPS of the DPS classes and I have to ask, how do you know? There is no DPS meter and so far I haven't found an after-fight analysis tool either. Are these just 'feelings' that people are having or is there something I'm missing?

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