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Old 11-03-2009, 10:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Making the switch: Ranger or Assassin

I've played my gladiator close to 40 and I'm getting a bit bored with him. I will continue to level him to 50 but I'd like to level an alt just in case I get to 50 and I don't like him. To be honest, I've been let down by my gladiator a lot.

I've been looking at either a ranger or an assassin because I love the play styles. Both seem to be able to take care of themselves, both hit hard and have great dps. Both also require some skill to play and I really enjoy sitting down and learning the class inside and out.

I just don't know what class to pick. I love doing melee damage/dps, but the rangers ability to solo and CC really intrigues me. I guess I just need suggestions of which to go. I want to be able to solo, hit hard and fast. Is the CC ability of the ranger worth it to overlook the great dps/damage of the assassin? I hear that assassins have a ton of keybindings but their damage isn't that based upon luck and that rangers do go through mana pots a lot more.

Any suggestions would be great. I need a vacation from my gladiator.

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Old 11-03-2009, 10:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ranger if you want to have fun in large scale PvP.

I'm a 31 Assassin and I feel like I made the wrong choice. Why? I like big battles, and as a squishy melee, I can barely participate in them. Stealthing up and jumping someone just gets me focused on and killed instantly. I can't attack safely from behind the crowds, I can't attack from the air.

Someone will probably tell me to L2P or pick my battles, but what does it mean to 'pick my battles'? It means to make sure they're alone, lower level, or already half dead.
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm a Gladiator too, I thought about making an Assasin alt but honestly the whole point of an alt is to get away from all the perils of your class and try something different... something not melee (honestly Melee really gets the short end of the stick in this game)

Made a Ranger alt and am LOVING it. It's nice not being a cripple in PvP... Glad up to 38, Ranger at 36 atm

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Old 11-03-2009, 10:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm a Gladiator too, I thought about making an Assasin alt but honestly the whole point of an alt is to get away from all the perils of your class and try something different... something not melee (honestly Melee really gets the short end of the stick in this game)

Made a Ranger alt and am LOVING it. It's nice not being a cripple in PvP... Glad up to 38, Ranger at 36 atm
As a ranger do you miss melee at all? I guess what draws me to an assassin is the DW and the quick attacks.

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Old 11-03-2009, 01:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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As a ranger do you miss melee at all?
I did during the first few levels. Then you get the Stunning Shot chain and you go from plinkplinkplink to WHACKWHACK... to put it simply (critting for 1.5K at level 19!)

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Old 11-03-2009, 02:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Haha it is very tempting. I just hope I won't regret not rolling a Sin though.

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Old 11-04-2009, 04:12 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Haha it is very tempting. I just hope I won't regret not rolling a Sin though.
/waves, 50 Sin here.

Kinda wish I rolled a ranger at times, so leveling a ranger alt.

Since you have a gladiator, I'd go ranger and not look back - at least for now. =P

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Old 11-09-2009, 07:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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im having the same problem, although i think im going to stick with my 30 ranger as opposed to my 27 assassin, i like the high burst and CCs and sins seem like they have to have a lot of keybindings, and i am not a fan of that so much
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i ll just copy paste my post on another thread, dont wanna write the whole **** again..

anyways, i have played all classes to 26++ and from my personal experience i have to say:
with sm i had hard times getting aggro from mobs/stealing aggro from tank by outdpsing, but my sm gear sux too
with gladi it was quite similar, but easier than sm (got the 26 blue spy quest weapon, asmo)
chanter, no discussion abt it , even though i could be a very good offtank (nochsana ofc)
sorc, getting aggro was very very easy..
cleric, i did sometimes dmg, but well i wont get the aggro unless i rlly want it (overhealing + the 10% procc skill)

and now comes the 2 uber dps chars

ranger : before i had the 19 bc green bow, where my dps was quite average, but after getting the lvl 26 spy quest bow, i m always stealing the tanks aggro by doing crazy dmg

sin: my sin got both lvl 24 dagger and sword, but green =(, had very hard time doing dmg with my sin, i thought sin sucks, cuz i was just doing average dmg (bit better than chanter maybe)
after i figured out how freaking imported those 25 stigma skills are and also how necesary buffs are my sin just became the dmg god in every run, no matter how good the tank is, i get the aggro every everytime, if i want it and i mostly do
i read abt ppl saying sins are bad at low lvls and start getting better at 34+..
so atm my sin is just the dmg god with green weapons, what will happen if i get blue/gold weaps and 34+ ??
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i did some duels with vs my grp members, note that by dueling, it was never possible for me to get into stealth and open first, i always got rooted/w.e. at the beginning
vs sm i raped him like 4:2 favoring me (if i didnt do any mistakes it could be better)
vs templer 1:0
vs cleric 1:1
vs gladiator 1:3 =( (only the last duel i started kiting him)


ok so sins arent made for big scale pvp but for raping single players or grp of lows..
if you get the opener which you ll mostly do, you have won..
dont know how it ll become on higher lvls, but since my sorc is almost 40, i dont think changes would be that huge for sins, their ownage is always
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Old 11-18-2009, 04:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Sins really are made for large scale PvP, but it depends on your play style.

It seems like many people get the idea that an assassin isn't good in large scale PvP because they run alone into the enemy's lines and die. They think "well if I had range I could stand at my own line and fire away, therefore sins are bad."

You don't have to play an assassin like a lemming. Getting over the urge to charge into certain death alone and unsupported might change your results with the class. If you are patient, you'll get your chances to attack and make a difference. Makes sense for the theme of the class, doesn't it? If you don't like that style of play, then you should not choose the class.
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Old 11-20-2009, 08:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Sin = way more dps. +30% compared to ranger.
RNG = ranged combat and lots of rng factors.
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