Hide I and Hide II not really that hidden?

Feign · 11-07-2009, 08:26 PM

So what all sees through hide because I'm not finding that hide actually hides me most times. I have had a gladiator follow and unhide me in hide II and it wasn't like he got lucky he ran right at me.

Badhorse · 11-07-2009, 08:34 PM

Hide is kinda broken in this game in my opinion. If you cast had after you're already targeted it seems that they still will have you targeted, I've noticed if an asmo casts hide when he's close to me, I can still slightly see him, although I can't target. As far as which classes are supposed to be able to see through hide, Sins, rangers and mages are all I know of. Although I didn't think anyone could see through Hide 2 (I mean, is supposed to see through Hide 2)

Rim · 11-07-2009, 09:17 PM

When you hide, you don't turn insta-invisible. You "fade" in and out for about 5s before you finally become 100% unseen. This allows AOE classes like the glad to knock you out of stealth.

Trocian · 11-07-2009, 09:42 PM

Anyone knows how the fading works with the mini-map?

Do you dissapear from it the moment you use Hide, or do you stay on it till you're completely faded out?

faction · 11-07-2009, 09:44 PM

You don't show up on the minimap the second you hit hide.

Ephrum · 11-07-2009, 09:44 PM

I believe you dissapear from the map.

God of Gamblers · 11-08-2009, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badhorse

Although I didn't think anyone could see through Hide 2 (I mean, is supposed to see through Hide 2)

At 40 Rangers get a skill which allows us to see targets in Hide 2.

Same with Sorcs I think.

Wisemage · 11-08-2009, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by God of Gamblers

At 40 Rangers get a skill which allows us to see targets in Hide 2.

Same with Sorcs I think.

Rangers do Sorcerers dont.

ALso, l;ike someone said you slowly fade so an AoE'r can run to where he see you faintly and AoE to break.

bzt · 11-08-2009, 12:05 PM

Effects on some weapons (like shining, glowing etc.) sometimes seen through Hide. Even with Hide 2 you have something like a ghost version of sword following you. So, be sure to test this with your friends first. Attentive player, who's seen Hide skill usage on chat radar or wing folding sound when you landed (character sounds don't disappear in hidden state) can track you down using this graphics glitch.

Also there is a hack which shows hidden targets on radar.

Sarubethiel · 11-10-2009, 03:51 PM

hide is not broken per se... at least in my point of view... if you are trying to hide against a GOOD player with GOOD habits that always keeps all seeing eye up as much as they can, then you're pooched.. they're just a good player, and they expect it.

If you come up against a class that has an ability to see you in hide and they dont' have their skills running, well that's their own damn fault.

But if you're a sin and you hide on me and I see it? I'm going to use my all seeing eye to find you.

Trouble is... it's a pain in the *** to always remember to use it, case in point... I got my face raped by a sin that jumped me from hide cause I wasn't running ASE.. if I were I'd have seen him.

RoburPL · 11-10-2009, 05:57 PM

Lol hunters eye II allows you to see through hide II for 30sec and its 10min cd, so its only useful if you know that there is someone trying to come up behind you

Nemonia · 11-13-2009, 11:59 PM

It looks like you disappear instantly from the map, but it does take a moment before you are completely faded. Not to mention if they look at you in the process they will see which way you are running off to, so for instant a sorc just have to do aoe root in the general area to make you appear.

aiontesties · 11-18-2009, 07:02 AM

Btw there is a anti-stealth hack that enables you to see stealth but not attack it. this have already been out for a long time ago together with bot programs lol

11-07-2009, 08:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Feign Human Join Date: Sep 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Race: Elyos	Hide I and Hide II not really that hidden? So what all sees through hide because I'm not finding that hide actually hides me most times. I have had a gladiator follow and unhide me in hide II and it wasn't like he got lucky he ran right at me.

11-07-2009, 08:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Badhorse Soldier Join Date: Oct 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Badhorse Class: Assassin Race: Undecided Server: Marchutan	Hide is kinda broken in this game in my opinion. If you cast had after you're already targeted it seems that they still will have you targeted, I've noticed if an asmo casts hide when he's close to me, I can still slightly see him, although I can't target. As far as which classes are supposed to be able to see through hide, Sins, rangers and mages are all I know of. Although I didn't think anyone could see through Hide 2 (I mean, is supposed to see through Hide 2) __________________ So I'm playing COD4 the other day, and I got to thinking, in Doom I have a BFG9000, I think I should get the same gun in COD4 or I just may quite COD4, actually I won't even buy MW2 if it doesn't have my BFG9000.

11-07-2009, 09:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
faction Great General Join Date: Sep 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Faction Class: Assassin Legion: david bowie Race: Elyos Server: Azphel	You don't show up on the minimap the second you hit hide. __________________

11-07-2009, 09:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ephrum Lieutenant Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Asmodae. Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Character: Ephrum Class: Gladiator Legion: DeathIsEternal Race: Asmodians Server: Zikel	I believe you dissapear from the map. __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum. ~ "If you want peace, prepare for war."

11-10-2009, 05:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
RoburPL Soldier Join Date: Oct 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Robur Class: Ranger Race: Asmodians Server: Kaisinel	Lol hunters eye II allows you to see through hide II for 30sec and its 10min cd, so its only useful if you know that there is someone trying to come up behind you __________________ My Ranger <3

11-07-2009, 09:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rim Star Officer Join Date: Jul 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Kamyla Class: Ranger Race: Elyos Server: Lumiel	When you hide, you don't turn insta-invisible. You "fade" in and out for about 5s before you finally become 100% unseen. This allows AOE classes like the glad to knock you out of stealth.

11-07-2009, 09:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
Trocian Soldier Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Character: Trine Class: Templar Race: Asmodians Server: Perento	Anyone knows how the fading works with the mini-map? Do you dissapear from it the moment you use Hide, or do you stay on it till you're completely faded out?

11-08-2009, 12:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
bzt Soldier Join Date: Sep 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Class: Spiritmaster Race: Elyos Server: Gorgos	Effects on some weapons (like shining, glowing etc.) sometimes seen through Hide. Even with Hide 2 you have something like a ghost version of sword following you. So, be sure to test this with your friends first. Attentive player, who's seen Hide skill usage on chat radar or wing folding sound when you landed (character sounds don't disappear in hidden state) can track you down using this graphics glitch. Also there is a hack which shows hidden targets on radar.

11-10-2009, 03:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
Sarubethiel Daeva Join Date: Oct 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Class: Ranger Race: Elyos Server: Nezekan	hide is not broken per se... at least in my point of view... if you are trying to hide against a GOOD player with GOOD habits that always keeps all seeing eye up as much as they can, then you're pooched.. they're just a good player, and they expect it. If you come up against a class that has an ability to see you in hide and they dont' have their skills running, well that's their own damn fault. But if you're a sin and you hide on me and I see it? I'm going to use my all seeing eye to find you. Trouble is... it's a pain in the *** to always remember to use it, case in point... I got my face raped by a sin that jumped me from hide cause I wasn't running ASE.. if I were I'd have seen him.

11-13-2009, 11:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
Nemonia General Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: United Kingdom Blog Entries: 23 Thanks: 11 Thanked 44 Times in 41 Posts Character: Kyuubi Class: Ranger Legion: Atra Astrum Race: Asmodians Server: Perento	It looks like you disappear instantly from the map, but it does take a moment before you are completely faded. Not to mention if they look at you in the process they will see which way you are running off to, so for instant a sorc just have to do aoe root in the general area to make you appear. __________________ *Blood for Blood..*

11-18-2009, 07:02 AM	#13 (permalink)
aiontesties Daeva Join Date: Oct 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Race: Undecided Server: Undecided	Btw there is a anti-stealth hack that enables you to see stealth but not attack it. this have already been out for a long time ago together with bot programs lol

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