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i know next to nothing bout these things. i'm a console gamer at heart so i'm lost here can i like upgrade my laptop for aion or am i screwed and just need to wait till i can get a job and get a good desktop. sorry for sounding like a noob. lol Last edited by thehulk6669; 08-24-2009 at 06:07 PM.. |
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Would a NVIDIA GeForce GT 130M graphics work? I'm gunna be running it on my laptop.
__________________ "He who was ready to sacrifice his life, as many a savage has been, rather than betray his comrades, would often leave no offspring to inherit his noble nature." -Charles Darwin |
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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if not where can i find them. a google serch did not help me at all |
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Open Beta is soon.
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9800GTX + Intel Dual Core CPU + 2GB RAM ... Not the best, hopefully its enough to run the game on fairly high graphics without any problems
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Don't read what the boxes says it always lies from what I experienced, if you want somewhat of an enjoyable gaming environment it has to be 1.25% X the Recommended spec. And 2 - 3 X the requirement for max setting game play. Last edited by Ryutsuke; 08-25-2009 at 03:06 PM.. |
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I dont really know much about computers, however my old laptop died, and I need one for my graduate studies (or else I would purchase a desktop!)
I am currently looking into buying asus as i have heard lots of good things about them. the specs of The laptop i am planning on getting are: Screen 15.4 Inches Display Type WXGA widescreen with 1366 x 768 resolution Processor Intel? Core?2 Duo Mobile Processor Speed 2.0GHz System Bus 1066MHz System Memory (RAM) 4GB (ddr2) Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M Video Memory 1GB DDR3 Will this be able to run aion fine? and at what settings? for an extra 150 dollars, i could get the exact same laptop with 2.53 ghz version of the same processor, is that REALLY worth it (money is really tight) |
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Ordering the laptop at the end of the month and was wondering if I could run Aion at medium or high settings with this.
Connectivity: Broadband Internet connection DirectX: 10. (I believe) Hard Drive space: 320GB (5400RPM) Operating System: Windows Vista 64 Bit Processor: Pentium Dual Core (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/1MB cache) RAM: 4 GB RAM Video Card: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 Idk if the brand matters but it’s a Dell Inspiron 15. I’m planning on buying it for school/gaming. I searched the forums (a lil bit) but if there is a better video card in the $100-200 range for laptops plz post a link or just tell me the name. I’m guessing by the time Aion is released the recommended prolly won’t be that. If I left out any info just let me know. |
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Maybe I'm wrong though, I rarely use 16:9 monitors, and even if I did I wouldn't expect such a small monitor to do the job of a monitor a good 6-8 inches larger would normally do. The thing about repairing Windows Systems (I'm a Linux Fanboy, sorry I just love the freedom you get with Linux.) is that sometimes the manual fixes cost the shop or the person more time and effort then they can afford. In the shop they could do hundreds of re-installs before they could do one manual fix just because Windows Systems are so hard to repair, such is not the case in linux where the information is given freely. Yes I manually take the time to correct lots of errors on my family members systems but I do that cause I want to, if it came down to making money I would just do re-installs cause it is cheaper and would make me more money faster, thats just how computer technicians work. I use both Nvidia and ATI, right now the majority of my builds are ATI though just beacuse I jumped on a good deal I got for a batch of HD4850's($50 buck a pop I couldn't refuse for a current generation Video card. So far I've been VERY pleased with this upgrade on all my systems. Yeah the prices for the 38xx series are pretty close now, I was really happy when I got my 4850's though, I made crysis cry when it tried to slow me down xD So yeah *Happy Customer* You took my bit about the human eye and changed what I said. I said that most Humans can see a maximum of 60 to 70 frames per second. Not going from 60 to 70 the actuall frame rates. Lets use an expample. When you look at a screen that is showing 100FPS, your eye can only transmit the first 70FPS at the most the last thirty are lost and you have moved onto the next second. I wasn't saying movi9ng from one FPS to the other I was stating that there is no need for more then 60 frames per second. Infact LCD's have a refresh rate of 60Hrz meaning ever second they refresh 60 times, if you V-sync to 60FPS not only does it make your FPS constant but it also keeps you from splitting the screen. Splitting the screen meaning you see one frame on the top half and a second frame on the bottom half when you go over 60FPS. It's not noticble until you turn in game and you actually see the split. You should try it some time and see what I mean, its quiet ugly and makes anythiong more then 60FPS unnecessary. And that post wasn't pointed at you but I wanted you to read and understand my points aswell as Lowels, both of us made valid points and were arguing two different things that we finally figured out haha. Oh and that literally was my first post on this forum xD no hostility intended, I'm just a little aggressive at times. ------------------------- Quote:
If I were you I would try to even things out, and the 1gb memory Video cards are actually clocked lower. Meaning they are not as good unless you have 30" display. If you have a 30" display(which you don't) then without the 1gb the card would really be held back and almost unusable. And please tell me a price range you are looking for cause I bet I could do better then that laptop. I have a feeling this is the laptop you were looking at with the higher clock. I think this would be a better purchase, plus Viao's have a nice sturdy build, overall they make some of the nicest laptops you can buy that one being a steal. ------------------------- Quote:
If you like I'll see what I could get you in your CPU's socket but I cant promis anything cause I don't know if thats a propietary CPU. If you could give me a price range on how much you are spending on that Laptop I could look for one of better quality. I have returned with this. Asus scares alot of people because its not a well known brand among the mainstream but ask any system builder and they will have nothing but praise for possibly the best hardware maker in the world. Not only are their products excellent they are usually affordable, their laptops being a great example. BTW that will play Aion on full settings and still be a good laptop for personal use! Here is another, And another, that one even if it is the best of the three is open box, be careful you wont always get everything in open boxes, you may not get the cord. . . Which could be a problem. Last edited by Vear Heart; 08-25-2009 at 11:26 PM.. Reason: Automerged Double-Post. |
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I have 2g ram, Invedia GT go 7950 vid card and a duo core and not a problem. Little rubberbanding, tiny bit of lag, but I am on high settings. |
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I can use 640x480 just fine, but it uses only a couple inches of my screen, lol. Quote:
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You said I twisted your words and turned it into something else. But from what I said was based off of what you said "unnecessary", but in fact it was necessary. I was just stating facts to why it was. You would too notice the difference if you've seen it ![]() You only even out the specs only if you're on an budget otherwise if you were to upgrade components later on it would hinder you. Not all 1GB GPU's are clocked at lower speeds just depends which ones. And the memory in the GPU has so little to do with the actual screen size. The main reason they have different size memory GPU's is for better quality graphic. Take GTA IV for instance 512MB card would not be able to unleash the full potential of the game REGARDLESS of the screen size. All the extra memory really do enhance the texture to a certain degree with the X amount of memory. Hence the more the better but when you have to much it just doesn't get used. Which is the point in where having more is better. Again with the clock speed it varies on which card you get not all 1GB cards are slower. In I have a 2GB(1.7GBish) card is it's clocked higher then a 512MB card. CPU bottleneck you had to bring that up from my experience it's kind of hard for the CPU to bottleneck if you have a decent amount of memory. Of course if you have a UBER slow CPU then I could understand and again but if you have a lot of memory such as RAM etc. you will be fine I've played Aion on an signle-core 1.8Ghz laptop. |
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Your arguing this frame rate thing like I am talking about the difference from moving from 60 fps to 40 fps. The human eye can see fps lower then 60 or at the most 70, they can see 40 fps yes, but no one could see 100fps. If you look at 100fps you will only register somewhere between 60 and 70 fps. Still the fact remains, which you avoided, going passed 60fps is ascetically unpleasing on just about any game.(Exlcuding games like pinball or mindsweeper xD) Crysis, which I use an example of a beautifully rendered game, looks no different going from a 512MB card to a 1gb Vram card. but going from a 20" monitor to a 30" monitor is why you need 1gb. It's all about resolution, memory size has nothing to do with rendering, your not rendering graphics in the VRAM your storing it yes, but just because a game is beautiful and another game is a big red screen its ugly just one big red screen. IF both the games are at the same resolution then they would both use the same amount of VRAM. It all comes down to the pixels, just cause you have Crysis rendered at 2,560x1,600 doesn't mean that your using more VRAM then the big red screen of 2,560x1,600. So like I said, you want to find the sweet spot, you want VRAM for your monitor and fast enough to respond. I've got 512mb of GDDR5 And I've got a family member who bought a 30" screen and I talked him into the 1gb cards after he complained about his system being sluggish in games.Are you actually suggesting that RAM or VRAM does something other then store information? Its called Memory for a reason, its not called a processing unit. If you have more then you need then you can only handle more processes cause you will be able to store them in the background, but it wouldn't make the CPU stronger or faster, thats not how RAM works. The reason why I asked him that is on a system like the one he wanted I wanted to know if he could get a lesser graphics(less VRAM for a monitor thats 15" makes since to me) card for the higher clocked CPU. I did this cause if he could get 2.53ghz he could video encode and play the game at the same time cause each would use part of each core or one core each, cause 2.53ghz would be the sweet spot. And your responding to me responding to other people again >,< |
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And I've got a family member who bought a 30" screen and I talked him into the 1gb cards after he complained about his system being sluggish in games.




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