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Old 11-01-2009, 06:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tracert Results Collection to Help Diagnose Lag Spike, DC, Rubberbanding Issues

A lot of people seem to be having issues with lag spikes, rubberbanding or for some people random DCs. Needless to say, Aion is a difficult game to play even with a few seconds delays.

It seems like most of us with the issues are on Road Runner/Time Warner Cable and tracert to PlayNC servers is timing out at a specific node.

Now this wouldn't be the first time, something like this has happened with a game. Blizzard had to work with providers over the years including TWC and AT&T to resolve lag and connectivity issues.

The idea here is for everyone to post their Tracert logs. The tracert will be run to 206.127.155.3

To run a Tracert, open up Command Prompt (On XP - > Click Start -> Run -> Type cmd, on Windows Vista/7 follow same steps as XP or for new Start menu, open it up and type cmd in search box).

Once Command Prompt is open type:
tracert 206.127.155.3

Post the results here.

Quote:
tracert 206.127.155.3

Tracing route to 206-127-155-3.plaync.com [206.127.155.3]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 7 ms 5 ms 7 ms 10.219.96.1
2 12 ms 7 ms 7 ms 24.93.65.19
3 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms ge-2-2-0.rlghncrdc-pop1.southeast.rr.com [24.93.
64.171]
4 32 ms 27 ms 27 ms ae-3-0.cr0.dca10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.80]
5 37 ms 26 ms 29 ms ae-2-0.pr0.dca10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.169]
6 27 ms 27 ms 27 ms ge9-6.br02.ash01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.92.9]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Tracing route to 206-127-155-3.plaync.com [206.127.155.3]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms xxx.xxx.x.x
2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms xx.x.x.x
3 15 ms 16 ms 13 ms cpe-66-91-0-1.hawaii.res.rr.com [66.91.0.1]
4 13 ms 28 ms 11 ms ge13-0-3-oahuhimili-gsr1.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.224.37]
5 11 ms 35 ms 24 ms ge-2-0-0-oahuhimili-rtr1.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.224.138]
6 65 ms 63 ms * xe-6-1-3-tustca1-rtr1.socal.rr.com [24.25.230.130]
7 64 ms 63 ms 63 ms ae-5-0.cr0.lax30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.64]
8 * 68 ms 84 ms ae-1-0.pr0.lax10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.131]
9 65 ms 67 ms 65 ms ge1-2.br01.lax04.pccwbtn.net [63.218.51.61]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Tracing route to 206-127-155-3.plaync.com [206.127.155.3]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 73 ms 68 ms 71 ms 10.211.208.1
3 8 ms 18 ms 9 ms gig-6-0-3-103.orldflaabv-rtr1.cfl.rr.com [24.95.
230.36]
4 11 ms 9 ms 11 ms 198.228.95.24.cfl.res.rr.com [24.95.228.198]
5 12 ms 10 ms 9 ms 77.228.95.24.cfl.res.rr.com [24.95.228.77]
6 18 ms 17 ms 18 ms ge-1-3-0.cr1.atl20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.104]
7 16 ms 16 ms 83 ms ae-1-0.pr0.atl20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.177]
8 20 ms 23 ms 27 ms 66.109.9.62
9 20 ms 23 ms 19 ms tge2-1.fr3.atl1.llnw.net [68.142.119.193]
10 41 ms 43 ms 33 ms tge7-2.fr3.iad.llnw.net [69.28.171.233]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.

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Old 11-01-2009, 07:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Tracing route to 206-127-155-3.plaync.com [206.127.155.3]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms xxx.xxx.x.x
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 8 ms 9 ms 11 ms 98.233.95.24.cfl.res.rr.com [24.95.233.98]
4 12 ms 23 ms 14 ms 12.228.95.24.cfl.res.rr.com [24.95.228.12]
5 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms 77.228.95.24.cfl.res.rr.com [24.95.228.77]
6 22 ms 23 ms 23 ms ge-1-3-0.cr1.atl20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.104]
7 66 ms 24 ms 23 ms ae-1-0.pr0.atl20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.177]
8 31 ms 25 ms 23 ms 66.109.9.62
9 25 ms 61 ms 62 ms tge2-1.fr3.atl1.llnw.net [68.142.119.193]
10 39 ms 42 ms 49 ms tge7-2.fr3.iad.llnw.net [69.28.171.233]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
goes on until 30

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Old 11-01-2009, 07:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I am on roadrunner, and I am also having issues. Here are my results.



1 <1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 12 ms 7 ms 9 ms 10.113.224.1
3 9 ms 13 ms 12 ms srp1-0.fyvlncr-rtr1.nc.rr.com [24.88.225.1]
4 11 ms 13 ms 10 ms so-0-0-0.rlghncpop-rtr1.southeast.rr.com [24.93.
64.52]
5 27 ms 31 ms 32 ms ae-3-0.cr0.dca10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.80]
6 29 ms 28 ms 30 ms ae-2-0.pr0.dca10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.169]
7 28 ms 41 ms 29 ms ge9-6.br02.ash01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.92.9]
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.

It goes on til 30 hops but all results past 7 are the same

Also as another bit of background I have been playing since headstart, but have only had these issues for about a week now. At times the lag is annoying but tolerable while other times I can't even get past character selection without being disconnected.

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Old 11-01-2009, 07:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm using TWC Roadrunner. It sucks normally, but not this bad.

Tracing route to 206-127-155-3.plaync.com [206.127.155.3]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.x.x
2 16 ms 12 ms 12 ms cpe-98-154-176-1.socal.res.rr.com [98.154.176.1]

3 7 ms 57 ms 8 ms GIG2-0.GRDNCA1-GSR1.socal.rr.com [24.24.208.25]

4 14 ms 14 ms 18 ms cpe-66-75-157-2.socal.res.rr.com [66.75.157.2]
5 16 ms 27 ms 15 ms ae-5-0.cr0.lax00.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.102]
6 29 ms 16 ms 17 ms ae-0-0.pr0.lax10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.133]
7 17 ms 15 ms 40 ms ge1-2.br01.lax04.pccwbtn.net [63.218.51.61]
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
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25 * * * Request timed out.
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29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

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Old 11-01-2009, 08:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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FIX this pos.

Tracing route to 206.127.155.3 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.203.193
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 10 ms 8 ms 7 ms 66.68.1.101
4 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms 24.27.13.74
5 14 ms 18 ms 15 ms 72.179.205.58
6 16 ms 17 ms 14 ms 66.109.6.108
7 19 ms 19 ms 25 ms 66.109.6.181
8 21 ms 30 ms 19 ms 63.218.23.13
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
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It seems like most of us with the issues are on Road Runner/Time Warner Cable and tracert to PlayNC servers is timing out at a specific node.
the reason it seems like it's timing out at a specific node is because it is. but all you're going to see with a trace is up to when they drop UDP traceroute at the firewall.
beyond that point, within NCsoft's internal network, is where the problem lies. we will never be able to help show them where the problem lies with posts like this. it will take working with someone who is actively monitoring incoming connections to see where we're being caught up and why.

posts showing how many people are affected may be useful to get them moving quicker to a resolution, but posting ping or traceroute info will not help. it seems from prior posts that all of TW/RR, no matter where you live, is affected. so even location specific information on RR routers along the way will likely be of no use.

FYI - i'm in Austin and i used to have AT&T DSL. i switched to TW/RR a week ago. the problem with Aion servers was the same with AT&T too. i have a support ticket open with NCsoft. **i recommend that everyone with this problem does the same.**
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AT&T here, so it is not just one provider. Started getting nasty bad lag and latency yesterday. Honestly, it's unplayable in this condition. I see multiple posts timing out after tge7-2.fr3.iad.llnw.net .... What is that about?

Annecdote: latency seems to consistently drop to under 200 in the game client (/ping) WHEN the traceroute is running. WTH is that about?

TraceRoute to 206.127.155.3 [206-127-155-3.plaync.com]

Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
1 45 11 6 [home IP address] -
2 23 41 29 206.123.64.82 -
3 11 34 53 216.52.189.9 border4.te4-4.colo4dallas-5.ext1.dal.pnap.net
4 30 20 22 216.52.191.38 core1.tge5-1-bbnet1.ext1.dal.pnap.net
5 21 40 36 208.51.41.57 ae0.411.ar1.dal2.gblx.net
6 15 85 47 64.215.81.222 limelight-networks.tengigabitethernet1-3.ar4.dal2.gblx.net
7 43 50 59 69.28.172.38 tge7-1.fr4.atl1.llnw.net
8 48 49 42 68.142.119.193 tge2-1.fr3.atl1.llnw.net
9 51 63 67 69.28.171.233 tge7-2.fr3.iad.llnw.net
10 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
11 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
12 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
13 Timed out Timed out Timed out -

Trace aborted.
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the reason it seems like it's timing out at a specific node is because it is. but all you're going to see with a trace is up to when they drop UDP traceroute at the firewall.
beyond that point, within NCsoft's internal network, is where the problem lies. we will never be able to help show them where the problem lies with posts like this. it will take working with someone who is actively monitoring incoming connections to see where we're being caught up and why.

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posts showing how many people are affected may be useful to get them moving quicker to a resolution, but posting ping or traceroute info will not help. it seems from prior posts that all of TW/RR, no matter where you live, is affected. so even location specific information on RR routers along the way will likely be of no use.

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i have a support ticket open with NCsoft. **i recommend that everyone with this problem does the same.**
Please listen to these wise words.

I've made a thread in the General forums because I really don't feel this issue is getting the attention it derserves despite the high number of people affected:

Sunday Unplayable due to Data Center SNAFU

Please simply identify where you are and your ISP.
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Tracing route to 206-127-155-3.plaync.com [206.127.155.3]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 10.0.1.1
2 15 ms 11 ms 8 ms cpe-98-148-64-1.socal.res.rr.com [98.148.64.1]
3 19 ms 9 ms 27 ms cpe-76-166-5-242.socal.rr.com [76.166.5.242]
4 26 ms 10 ms 9 ms cpe-66-75-149-92.socal.res.rr.com [66.75.149.92]

5 30 ms 41 ms 29 ms cpe-66-75-149-91.socal.res.rr.com [66.75.149.91]

6 23 ms 38 ms 16 ms ae12-tustca1-rtr1.socal.rr.com [66.75.149.5]
7 31 ms 14 ms 45 ms ae-5-0.cr0.lax30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.64]
8 18 ms 17 ms 23 ms ae-1-0.pr0.lax10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.131]
9 19 ms 19 ms 35 ms ge2-15.br01.lax04.pccwbtn.net [63.218.51.117]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
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Mine times out after pccwbtn.net as well.
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TWC North Carolina

Tracing route to 206-127-155-3.plaync.com [206.127.155.3] over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 12 ms 11 ms 13 ms gig3-0-3.gnboncsg-rtr2.triad.rr.com [24.28.229.1
61]
3 14 ms 12 ms 13 ms ge-1-3-0.chrlncpop-rtr1.southeast.rr.com [24.93.
64.50]
4 18 ms 20 ms 18 ms ae-3-0.cr0.atl20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.82]
5 25 ms 16 ms 17 ms ae-0-0.pr0.atl20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.171]
6 18 ms 19 ms 21 ms 66.109.9.62
7 17 ms 24 ms 23 ms tge2-1.fr3.atl1.llnw.net [68.142.119.193]
8 35 ms 36 ms 36 ms tge7-2.fr3.iad.llnw.net [69.28.171.233]
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

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Hey guys. We're looking into what's causing everyone to lag. If you're still experiencing lag issues, please post your trace route info here.
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OMG! Acknowledgement! Yay! I hate that I can't play, as do most of us, but sh** happens. We appreciate all the info you can pass along, and appreciate just saying "We know about it and are working on it" as you just did.
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