Nehalem new news - Page 2

The Crowing · 11-04-2008, 10:01 AM

I'm more excited about the upcoming Larrabee architecture than Core i7. My plain old Q6600 has not failed me yet. I'll definitely be interested in getting a new cpu when true 8-core hits the market.

Diablo · 11-04-2008, 10:03 AM

They just did, 4 cores running 2 threads each.

The Crowing · 11-04-2008, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diablo

They just did, 4 cores running 2 threads each.

I meant 8 physical cores.

Diablo · 11-04-2008, 10:12 AM

to do what? edit and convert 6 videos at the same time? Until there comes a time when real parallel computing happens on a CPU and we have a CGPU I can't see any real use for more than 4 cores in a desktop.

The Crowing · 11-04-2008, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diablo

to do what? edit and convert 6 videos at the same time? Until there comes a time when real parallel computing happens on a CPU and we have a CGPU I can't see any real use for more than 4 cores in a desktop.

If my memory is right. In the Pentium 4 days, Hyper Threading hurt performance more than it actually helped. There were also some theoretical security flaws in the technology. Basically that's a part of what Core i7 is using.

Why go for the virtual stuff when you can have the real deal in the not so distant future? That's all I'm suggesting. Of course, there are people out there who want this as soon as it comes out. Good for them.

"Moving an application to two threads on a single SMT (Simultaneous Multi-Threading) -enabled core will increase cache-thrashing by 42%, whereas it will decrease by 37% when moving to two cores." Chip Mulligan, Inquirer, 02 August 2006

FreeBSD: Hyper-Threading Vulnerability | KernelTrap
Hyperthreading hurts server performance, say developers - ZDNet.co.uk
ARM is no fan of HyperThreading - The INQUIRER

Diablo · 11-04-2008, 10:56 AM

Server yes and the Inquirer is not your best source of news, rumors yes.

newpick · 11-04-2008, 02:18 PM

So 4.0Ghz overclocked on the mid range nehalem would not be out of reach on air

Diablo · 11-04-2008, 02:26 PM

Nope, and possibly even on the low end. 3.8 was achieved on air on the reference board, horribly designed one at that.

Neon · 11-04-2008, 02:33 PM

Wow - what price you guys reckon these things will be? I was going to be making / buying a new pc for aion, but I may even wait for after release to buy one of those beasts! else I may just be chucking money away.

Diablo · 11-04-2008, 02:35 PM

Core i7 965 Extreme Edition - 3.2GHz with 8MB Shared L3 cache and a 1x6.4GT/s QuickPath interconnect - $999
Core i7 940 - 2.93GHz with 8MB Shared L3 cache and a 1x4.8GT/s QuickPath interconnect - $562
Core i7 920 - 2.66GHz with 8MB Shared L3 cache and a 1x4.8GT/s QuickPath interconnect - $284

Neon · 11-04-2008, 02:52 PM

they are ridiculously cheap.

Diablo · 11-04-2008, 02:53 PM

on par with current intel pricing, expect some price drops on wolfdales and peryns.

Neon · 11-04-2008, 03:11 PM

How long must I wait for these?. How much better a performance boost would a new pc have with one of these instead of say a q9550 with top range graphics cards, 4gb ram? And do you think it is worth me waiting for these to be released (after aion) or should I just get a new pc for aion - ie how much will I really lose out by if I get a pc based on the current chips instead of these new ones?

newpick · 11-04-2008, 03:31 PM

we all don't know when its coming out, a handful of people know, they said late October: no, early November: nada now they say almost December.

side note: do you think there will be a coolermaster geminiII for the new socket, at one point you could get the heat sink for nearly every socket. but then we haven't heard about any fans or heat sinks, any one seen heatsinks besides the one for the republic of gaming board?

Diablo · 11-04-2008, 04:15 PM

Some companies are selling or upgrading brackets for old fans. With the lifting of the NDA we should see these by the end of the month.

You will need a new mobo x58 as well as ddr3 and 3 sticks of it to see the benefits. One of the reasons the intel board is crap 4 dimms WTF?

11-04-2008, 10:01 AM	#16 (permalink)
The Crowing Officer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Jersey Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Class: Templar Race: Elyos Server: Undecided	I'm more excited about the upcoming Larrabee architecture than Core i7. My plain old Q6600 has not failed me yet. I'll definitely be interested in getting a new cpu when true 8-core hits the market. Last edited by The Crowing; 11-04-2008 at 10:03 AM..

11-04-2008, 10:03 AM	#17 (permalink)
Diablo Dark Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mastering my Little One Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Character: Lord and Master Class: Templar Legion: Don't click this Race: Asmodians Server: Undecided	They just did, 4 cores running 2 threads each. __________________ Space for rent Sig by Naybewon PM Knite for details

11-04-2008, 10:12 AM	#19 (permalink)
Diablo Dark Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mastering my Little One Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Character: Lord and Master Class: Templar Legion: Don't click this Race: Asmodians Server: Undecided	to do what? edit and convert 6 videos at the same time? Until there comes a time when real parallel computing happens on a CPU and we have a CGPU I can't see any real use for more than 4 cores in a desktop. __________________ Space for rent Sig by Naybewon PM Knite for details

11-04-2008, 10:56 AM	#21 (permalink)
Diablo Dark Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mastering my Little One Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Character: Lord and Master Class: Templar Legion: Don't click this Race: Asmodians Server: Undecided	Server yes and the Inquirer is not your best source of news, rumors yes. __________________ Space for rent Sig by Naybewon PM Knite for details

11-04-2008, 02:18 PM	#22 (permalink)
newpick Star Officer Join Date: Apr 2008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Character: Newpick Class: Cleric Race: Elyos Server: Israphel	So 4.0Ghz overclocked on the mid range nehalem would not be out of reach on air __________________

11-04-2008, 02:26 PM	#23 (permalink)
Diablo Dark Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mastering my Little One Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Character: Lord and Master Class: Templar Legion: Don't click this Race: Asmodians Server: Undecided	Nope, and possibly even on the low end. 3.8 was achieved on air on the reference board, horribly designed one at that. __________________ Space for rent Sig by Naybewon PM Knite for details

11-04-2008, 02:33 PM	#24 (permalink)
Neon General Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts Character: Neon Class: Assassin Legion: Evil Bunnies Race: Elyos Server: Undecided	Wow - what price you guys reckon these things will be? I was going to be making / buying a new pc for aion, but I may even wait for after release to buy one of those beasts! else I may just be chucking money away.

11-04-2008, 02:35 PM	#25 (permalink)
Diablo Dark Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mastering my Little One Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Character: Lord and Master Class: Templar Legion: Don't click this Race: Asmodians Server: Undecided	Core i7 965 Extreme Edition - 3.2GHz with 8MB Shared L3 cache and a 1x6.4GT/s QuickPath interconnect - $999 Core i7 940 - 2.93GHz with 8MB Shared L3 cache and a 1x4.8GT/s QuickPath interconnect - $562 Core i7 920 - 2.66GHz with 8MB Shared L3 cache and a 1x4.8GT/s QuickPath interconnect - $284 __________________ Space for rent Sig by Naybewon PM Knite for details

11-04-2008, 02:52 PM	#26 (permalink)
Neon General Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts Character: Neon Class: Assassin Legion: Evil Bunnies Race: Elyos Server: Undecided	they are ridiculously cheap.

11-04-2008, 02:53 PM	#27 (permalink)
Diablo Dark Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mastering my Little One Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Character: Lord and Master Class: Templar Legion: Don't click this Race: Asmodians Server: Undecided	on par with current intel pricing, expect some price drops on wolfdales and peryns. __________________ Space for rent Sig by Naybewon PM Knite for details

11-04-2008, 03:11 PM	#28 (permalink)
Neon General Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts Character: Neon Class: Assassin Legion: Evil Bunnies Race: Elyos Server: Undecided	How long must I wait for these?. How much better a performance boost would a new pc have with one of these instead of say a q9550 with top range graphics cards, 4gb ram? And do you think it is worth me waiting for these to be released (after aion) or should I just get a new pc for aion - ie how much will I really lose out by if I get a pc based on the current chips instead of these new ones?

11-04-2008, 03:31 PM	#29 (permalink)
newpick Star Officer Join Date: Apr 2008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Character: Newpick Class: Cleric Race: Elyos Server: Israphel	we all don't know when its coming out, a handful of people know, they said late October: no, early November: nada now they say almost December. side note: do you think there will be a coolermaster geminiII for the new socket, at one point you could get the heat sink for nearly every socket. but then we haven't heard about any fans or heat sinks, any one seen heatsinks besides the one for the republic of gaming board? __________________

11-04-2008, 04:15 PM	#30 (permalink)
Diablo Dark Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mastering my Little One Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Character: Lord and Master Class: Templar Legion: Don't click this Race: Asmodians Server: Undecided	Some companies are selling or upgrading brackets for old fans. With the lifting of the NDA we should see these by the end of the month. You will need a new mobo x58 as well as ddr3 and 3 sticks of it to see the benefits. One of the reasons the intel board is crap 4 dimms WTF? __________________ Space for rent Sig by Naybewon PM Knite for details

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