Templars in PvP.

[AlexMeister]

Took part in a castle siege yesterday. So to give you all a perspective on castle sieges, mass pvp to the max. Was defending, upper abyss. Now castle sieges as a templar, in defense, involves this:

Whenever pull is up, pull one to your group so dps can steamroll them. Then wait for cooldown to do again.

If you try and fly out there to slap someone, you instantly have 50 people target you and you will die. Nothing is going to save you against that. Now i saw some lvl 45 templars use our AoE pull while asmo's were fighting the dragon at the front of the castle. With some Focused firying we dropped a solid 20 people because of that 1 aoe pull, but it's on a ridiculously long Cooldown so you won't be doing that often.

So outside the castle, it was rather boring honestly. You watch the sorc's and rangers just blasting away, while us melee classes are pretty much the victims of it. Ranged classes own outside castle sieges. Once the battle went inside, different story. No more running, no more flying away. Narrow corridors, but a massive zerg. They send there melee forward, we send ours. We smash against each other and battles on while sorc's nuke the middle. Now you might think, let me run right through the middle and head for there sorcs, bad idea. This means your cut off from your clerics and will die within seconds when 30 sorcs focus fire on you.

So whoever wins this middle battle then pushes onto there back row of sorcs, rangers and clerics. At this point they are finished. Now a great thing to do is save your AoE pull for this battle, pull there backrow to the middle and obliterate. I see why it's on a long cooldown honestly, as 1 solid pull can mean the death of dozens of people.

So outside the fort, boring, rather useless 1 trick pony. Inside the fort, a lot of fun actually. Still, the fun sorc's seem to be having will surpass our fun by far. They don't have a place where they suck or dont do anything.

Now for castle offense, templars and glads lead the charge. We beat on the doors to bring them down, we push down the middle once we're in, we tank the mobs and castle defenders. So a lot more to do on offense. Also, we get eaten by the dozens and dozens of sorcs sitting on the castle walls raining down holy hell on top of our heads while we beat on the doors.

So to sumarize, bring a dedicated cleric to heal you or you'll spend most of your time respawning.

[Yangbang]

Templars suck at pvp at low levels.

[Inambour]

Originally Posted by Yangbang

Templars suck at pvp at low levels.

Every class does. Game is not balanced around "lvl" 36 pvp ^_^.

[Dannan]

Hmm...Templar is bad at PvP? News to me!

[AlexMeister]

Originally Posted by Inambour

Every class does. Game is not balanced around "lvl" 36 pvp ^_^.

Even then it's not balanced. Game isn't really balanced for pvp ti'll 50 if you ask me. Everyone has everything then, and it comes down to equipment and skill. A 45 templar will still lose to a 45 Cleric. It's just the way it is, so clearly not balanced.

[BaskaN]

depents on how do you play

[Raivyn]

Originally Posted by AlexMeister

Took part in a castle siege yesterday. So to give you all a perspective on castle sieges, mass pvp to the max. Was defending, upper abyss. Now castle sieges as a templar, in defense, involves this:

Whenever pull is up, pull one to your group so dps can steamroll them. Then wait for cooldown to do again.

If you try and fly out there to slap someone, you instantly have 50 people target you and you will die. Nothing is going to save you against that. Now i saw some lvl 45 templars use our AoE pull while asmo's were fighting the dragon at the front of the castle. With some Focused firying we dropped a solid 20 people because of that 1 aoe pull, but it's on a ridiculously long Cooldown so you won't be doing that often.

So outside the castle, it was rather boring honestly. You watch the sorc's and rangers just blasting away, while us melee classes are pretty much the victims of it. Ranged classes own outside castle sieges. Once the battle went inside, different story. No more running, no more flying away. Narrow corridors, but a massive zerg. They send there melee forward, we send ours. We smash against each other and battles on while sorc's nuke the middle. Now you might think, let me run right through the middle and head for there sorcs, bad idea. This means your cut off from your clerics and will die within seconds when 30 sorcs focus fire on you.

So whoever wins this middle battle then pushes onto there back row of sorcs, rangers and clerics. At this point they are finished. Now a great thing to do is save your AoE pull for this battle, pull there backrow to the middle and obliterate. I see why it's on a long cooldown honestly, as 1 solid pull can mean the death of dozens of people.

So outside the fort, boring, rather useless 1 trick pony. Inside the fort, a lot of fun actually. Still, the fun sorc's seem to be having will surpass our fun by far. They don't have a place where they suck or dont do anything.

Now for castle offense, templars and glads lead the charge. We beat on the doors to bring them down, we push down the middle once we're in, we tank the mobs and castle defenders. So a lot more to do on offense. Also, we get eaten by the dozens and dozens of sorcs sitting on the castle walls raining down holy hell on top of our heads while we beat on the doors.

So to sumarize, bring a dedicated cleric to heal you or you'll spend most of your time respawning.

Exactly what i mean when i say we are support, i wasn't bad mouthing Templars i was saying that as far as i have seen so far were more for group action than solo, now some have said that we can solo some classes piece of **** so im hoping thats true. ;]

Wasn't judging at level 20 how my class will play at 50 because thats just stupid.

[Eightysix]

Originally Posted by Raivyn

Scary big red writing: Read first post fully before replying.

Today i had my arse handed to me in PvP, i did not complain infact i laughed about it.

I suggest you all do the same because you should all know what your signing up to when picking to play a Templar.

Im only at level 20 so i don't know later PvP but i think we get some decent abilitys later (The pull) so just hold out for that and remember we play support more than assault.

tanks are one of the #1 reasons i think this game should have collision detection. i know you cant do tank walls like in war because of the flight aspect, but thats not what im talking about..

im sayin, if im a tank and pvping, if nothing else i can put myself between you and the one im protecting long enough to let them get away while you try to get around me, let you chase em, pull you back...

but, thats something i can get past, not a huge deal, would just be nice...

however, i think it IS important for tanks to have a fair amount of "control" over other players to make up for the fact that threat means jack-squat in pvp, as does the dmg most likely... that way tanks can do something in pvp besides simply watch people run by them.

disclaimer: i havent really studied up on aion tanks, nor have i seen much info on them in pvp, so im not saying this ISNT there right now, i was merely stating what i think is good for tanks. any info on this matter would be very nice to have.

[Yangbang]

Originally Posted by Inambour

Every class does. Game is not balanced around "lvl" 36 pvp ^_^.

let me rephrase: Templars (and Rangers) suck in pvp at more than the other classes at low levels.

[BlackAngel]

suck or not u try your best be on top then u will see huge difference play hard go pro xD something like that

[Raivyn]

I wonder if when were flying whether our pull ability pulls enemy players into the air...

Doubt it but it would be funny as hell to AoE pull a bunch of Asmodians off a bridge.

[Sarielle]

Aion Classes Overview 1.2 Read What They Read, See What I See

Scroll down to Templar. Or watch high-level PvP videos, like the Chosun tournament in Korea. It may be tough in low levels...but Templars are currently dominating top-level PvP.

EDIT: To be clear, that's the patch before the one we'll launch with, but from speaking with a K-Aion member, they're still sitting pretty.

[Zerfiro]

i got a question

would a Defensive geared(geared for maximum block/parry) templar be viable to pvp?
or just attack critical is the only option for templar pvp endgame?

[Shocks]

Originally Posted by Zerfiro

i got a question

would a Defensive geared(geared for maximum block/parry) templar be viable to pvp?
or just attack critical is the only option for templar pvp endgame?

yes, as a meatshield for the most part. But if you want to be a meatshield, I'd stack HP and dodge. Block and Parry only mitigates dmg. you'll sitll do dmg if your gemmed for block and parry, but wont be as much if you use crit/atk manastones

If you want to dps, go crit and atk

[Raivyn]

Originally Posted by Zerfiro

i got a question

would a Defensive geared(geared for maximum block/parry) templar be viable to pvp?
or just attack critical is the only option for templar pvp endgame?

Never apply parry stones, they get in the way of our block and most of our attacks work off blocking.

Parry is for gladiators really.