Templar vs. Assassin

[Aggelos]

Originally Posted by Minato namikaze

Im Starting to think that templar knights have the most potential, Hp And dp but moderate damage making them a %!$& to fight in a 1v1 plus they have a few stuns i hope and what im looking for is the ability to heal ourselfs. If we are able to heal ourselves pretty good Im gonna have some orgys with my knight.

Seriously, I don't understand what kind of 1v1 fight are you talking about... Arena? Intra-faction duels? Are you really playing this game to be good at a arena? Cause otherwise I don't understand where and how are you going to have those 1v1 fights.

[Terpsichore]

When assassin/rogue (or any physical dder at this point) class beats a tank, game balance just fail, there is no justification to that.

[Blue]

No one really cares about 1v1 so what if u won does that give u feeling of accomplishment?

[aligada87]

templars arent weak dont be down from teh videos you see im a templar in aion online korean open beta and i have not met 1 assassin taht can beat me and when they do it usually has to be 6 lvls higher then me the trick to them is that you have to out tank the speed of there attack and thats waht i do i out tank them and when they run i heal lol so ya lots of tricks just really have to know waht your doing templars has the most potential in the game because they can self heal and tank and do good damage with the right stuff on dont forget your angelic wings lol that saves me alot bunch of times lol helps me heal myself lol

[Intaki]

You can't never judge by the youtube videos. They can be at diff lvl, gears, and most important SKILLS!

[Riku]

Originally Posted by Aggelos

I just don't understand why people still worry about 1v1, it's most unlikely you'll ever fight 1v1.

I think 1vs1 happens more than you think. There are lotz of people that solo.

[kevinc4]

When assassin/rogue (or any physical dder at this point) class beats a tank, game balance just fail, there is no justification to that.

Please tell me this is a joke.

[Terpsichore]

How is this a joke? Thats the main role of tanks, countering physical dders ._.

[kevinc4]

So your telling me that physical dders should have no chance against a tank of equal skill and equip/character level?
Do you not see how ridiculous that sounds?

[Terpsichore]

No its not.

There should be counterclasses and weaknesses, and only bad templars should lose to melees.

That or we are going to have another wow where there are almost no differences between classes.

[kevinc4]

A templars "role" in pvp is to take damage so dd classes can do damage.

I can honestly see where your'e coming from though, you are (apparently) going to be rolling templar and have certain ideas of what you want the class to be like. But please tell me where you got the idea where tamplars should not lose to other melees.

If you cant see how ubsurd your thoughts are go visit the glad or assassin forums and ask for feedback on your thoughts that templar should own them 1v1 or the games broken.

[Terpsichore]

Ok, to make it simple.

You roll a templar, a tank class that can take alot of phys dmg, is vulnerable to nukers and have medium damage.

So you get owned by casters, and then you meet some melee class... and get owned again.

Then you proceed to reroll assassin, name it xXxd4rkd34thxXx and kill every single class in game with zero effort like 90% of server population.

Thats your ideal scenario?


Its called roles, right, roles, role playing, rpg, this isnt a a fps with skills where anyone can kill each other, classes are different, should have solid roles and great strenght in their main role.

Of course that horrid templar with bad gear should lose to everything, but in case of "equality" they shouldn't lose to dd melees 1v1.

[kevinc4]

Please don't make assumptions on what I think an "ideal" scenario would be. It makes us both look dumb >.>

Not once did I ever say that other melee classes should ALWAYS own templars.

Its called roles, right, roles, role playing, rpg, this isnt a a fps with skills where anyone can kill each other, classes are different, should have solid roles and great strenght in their main role.

Lol, I've been waiting for you to say something like this. So I take it you hate character customization in general and the stigma system then? If so go find another mmo where you wont have to try and force your beliefs of what an mmo should be on other people.

1v1 I dont see why any class can't have a chance against any other class.



I still beg of you to take this your ideas outside the safety of a templar thread. I swear to god you wont get flamed ;]

[Terpsichore]

There is no character customization in aion, you don't allocate stats nor choose skilltrees, stigma just change minor things that won't affect playstyle much.

So if i tank is killed by melee dder, the tank is useless.

[Xanoth]

Originally Posted by Terpsichore

There is no character customization in aion, you don't allocate stats nor choose skilltrees, stigma just change minor things that won't affect playstyle much.

So if i tank is killed by melee dder, the tank is useless.

You missed one thing... Assassin isn't meant to deal constant dmg like for ex. gladiator. He's meant for critical strikes and backstabs aka. burst dmg. Templar won't give a **** about normal sin attacks. But backstabs and criticals for sure will hurt him as much as any other class.
I won't call class-counterclass system balanced... If you're calling system that lets you pwn one class with ease and being unable to hurt other class 'balanced', then... well, I'm a nice guy, and I won't flame at you...
Balanced system is one that depends on player's skills not class/equipment (like it was in wow)

And if you're changing your class because you've been owned few times mean you're weak-minded noob. Good players take loses as a motivation for mastering their class.