Asmodian or Elyos?

[Rudigarde]

To the OP, make sure you research this because I feel your pain. There is a difference in the DP skills AND the skill tree (chains). I am still trying to find a site for Elyos VS asmodian skill chain. Unfortuatenly, from what I have seen in game so far, Asmodians have cooler chains than the Elyos. Quick Examples:

YouTube - Aion - KOR Templar Skillchains

YouTube - Aion - KOR Templar Skillchains

You see the part where he changes to Shield + sword the first combo? It's a three part combo... elyos don't have the third part of that combo... I am sure there are more difference depending on class, but mostly, Asmodians has more chains than Elyos. Also Elyos DP attacks heals for a puny amount where Asmodians does more dmg... I.E: Assasins...

Another example take a look at this two and you be the judge of which you wanna stand beside in battle:



VS



Which will you rather stand next to?

[RandomMask]

I am digging that last chain where you pick up the person and body slam them!

[AlexMeister]

Elyos templars will be the better templars for damage and survivability. To start with, lets compare end game super skills:

Elyos: Nezakan?s Shield I - Skills - Aion
Asmo: Zikel's Shield I - Skills - Aion

Now compare. Same except the last part. Would you return a fraction of the damage you take, or take no physical damage period? In mass pvp, returning a fraction of 30 people beating on you will leave you dead in seconds. Taking none for a while will leave you alive.

Let's go lower, to the bigger point. In Aion, DoT's are useless. We have plenty of skills, abilities and pots to get rid of debuffs. At lvl 42 we get an amazing attack skill. Now compare:

Elyos: Brandish Shield I - Skills - Aion
Asmo: Slash Artery I - Skills - Aion

The asmo one is very low damage with a bleed skill. The bleed skill is a DoT that only retards suffer. Anyone with a brain removes it instantly. And even when not removed, the bleed DoT is low low damage. 1 HoT pot heals more than you'll lose. Now for the elyos one, it requires a shield block, but it is a massive damaging skill upon a counter. I've seen some lvl 45 templars use it for massive crits against assassins, glads, etc. And theres no pot to resist it or remove it, it's 1 big massive shield smash.

Elyos is more "Tank" and more "Direct damage slams" while asmo is more "reflecting" and "DoT's". Best i can compare would be templar to be like a holy knight thing and asmo to be a dark knight thing. Elyos is "The power of christ compells you...and my boot right up your a...!". While asmo is more "I like stabbing people from behind. Partly because it means i don't get hit, and partly because we asmo like being behind other men."

You decide, righteous right hand of god! or you use your right hand for reach-arounds on other asmo men.

[Yangbang]

Asmo > Elyos

[Hanso]

Originally Posted by AlexMeister

Elyos templars will be the better templars for damage and survivability. To start with, lets compare end game super skills:Elyos: Nezakan?s Shield I - Skills - Aion
Asmo: Zikel's Shield I - Skills - Aion

aionarmory is wrong, the skills are identical...

also note about the other skill you mentioned, elyos version is "on block" while asmo is part 3 combo chain. often i'd prefer a dot over 200-300 more dmg. also if the dot make the enemy use an orange pot, very good, his pot is on cd now and he can't remove snare now.

[AlexMeister]

Originally Posted by Hanso

aionarmory is wrong, the skills are identical...

also note about the other skill you mentioned, elyos version is "on block" while asmo is part 3 combo chain. often i'd prefer a dot over 200-300 more dmg. also if the dot make the enemy use an orange pot, very good, his pot is on cd now and he can't remove snare now.

Actually, unless you snare to begin with you won't keep anyone you do need to snare in range long enough to do a 3 part chain. You'll snare, get 1 part off, he pots and runs. You'll never get 3 in a row on a good kiter class, basically everyone but glads and templars, and them you don't need to keep to you.

Now against glads, temps, assassins, seeing as how snare won't be as usefull (well assassins when they run), 3 part chain that DoT's, they will pot to remove. Massive shield smash for solid damage they can't remove. I've watched 45 elyo's temps fight 45 asmo temp's 1vs1 a good number of times and the elyo's one always won. Sure gear can come into play, but it just seemed to me that elyo's temp have better burst damage capabilities once there shield blocks come into effect.

And burst damage is how everyone burns everyone else down right now.

[Hanso]

Originally Posted by AlexMeister

Actually, unless you snare to begin with you won't keep anyone you do need to snare in range long enough to do a 3 part chain. You'll snare, get 1 part off, he pots and runs. You'll never get 3 in a row on a good kiter class, basically everyone but glads and templars, and them you don't need to keep to you.

Now against glads, temps, assassins, seeing as how snare won't be as usefull (well assassins when they run), 3 part chain that DoT's, they will pot to remove. Massive shield smash for solid damage they can't remove. I've watched 45 elyo's temps fight 45 asmo temp's 1vs1 a good number of times and the elyo's one always won. Sure gear can come into play, but it just seemed to me that elyo's temp have better burst damage capabilities once there shield blocks come into effect.

And burst damage is how everyone burns everyone else down right now.

i can absolutely see your point and you're right that burst is key atm. but in the end it boils down to roughly 200-300 dmg more every 30s, vs a _potential_ chance to make the opponent drink an orange pot. i'd say it's pretty 50/50 comparing those two skills, in group pvp however with a good cleric insta remove conditions it's a different story.

[Yangbang]

Hanso's right, in the end it all balances out.

[Inambour]

Especially since while reading next patch notes I'm sure they were trying to let people live longer and let burst/crit chains to be on par with normal dmg. I'm not saying it has to be linear just a little toned down equally.
That's another story was just reacting at the balancing idea :>

About the fact that you can't seem to get to 3rd part of the chain (for the race specific skill) keep in mind the game suffers from latency a lot for those playing on C retail.
It shouldn't be (that big of) an issue on EU/NA servers. So make your choice through other differences like : world appearance, skins, animations, blah blah ^_^ !

[BlackAngel]

u can also look at the lvl 45 stigmas im talking about punishment of death god this is called in C Aion the asmo one leach 50% of the dmg he deal thats better then the elyos ones whit 3 sec stun this is my opinion over those lvl 45 stigma skills,
and dont start whit i watch a video till u dont do on your own u cant know but i think in end game bouth templars amso or elyos are equal what will come over is : the moust skilled player , the moust lucker in crits
anyway this is only my opinion

[Mortechai]

Originally Posted by ArshesNei

Someone please give me the pros and cons so I can make my final decision. >.< The only difference I've read so far is in the skill tree.

Forgive me for forgetting what its called....but asmo temps get a stigma that deals bonus damage per attack and returns a portion as health.....alls i know is that its WAY better than the one the elyos get. I think its called Death's something or other >.<;;


Edit: Punishment of the Death God in the chinese client.....level 45 stigma. Way better than the elyos's silly 3 second stun.

[furrygiblets]

Definatly going to be playing Elyos with my guild.

[BlackAngel]

Originally Posted by Mortechai

Forgive me for forgetting what its called....but asmo temps get a stigma that deals bonus damage per attack and returns a portion as health.....alls i know is that its WAY better than the one the elyos get. I think its called Death's something or other >.<;;


Edit: Punishment of the Death God in the chinese client.....level 45 stigma. Way better than the elyos's silly 3 second stun.

i sayed same thing xD u can check

[Dianta]

Elyos, i mean really im more inclined to hide behind a shield with looks as good as these, asmodian i suppose would rather take a hit, not like its going to make much difference stopping a mace with your face >.< In all seriousness tho, play something that feels right, no point looking at a huge green *** for 40hours a week if your not into that kind of thing , mind you i may get more done if i wasnt staring at my perfect ... anyway have fun x

[Drezdin]

The real decision for me(and my guildmates) will be made by the other guilds that role on the same server. We like to be competitive so if alot of pvp guilds role to one side ...we'll probably switch to the other just for the fight