Give Warriors charge and everything will be balanced in Abyss

[Super Novice]

Originally Posted by jackace

It's not much fun playing a melee class if any time you are out farming materials or something you are a free kill for any ranged class that can kite. There needs to be a balance and currently the news from Asia says there really isn't too much balance right now. Melee need a group or they get kited to death in the abyss by healers and ranged dps classes.

If they are going to give any class an advantage in 1v1 in this game it should be the warrior classes since they have no stealth and limited ranged abilities, meanwhile all the healers and casters have multiple ways to CC or snare the warrior. Ranged should have good enough CC to run away to a safe location but if they stick around to fight it out, it should be very hard for the ranged to successfully kill the warrior class in a 1v1. None of this endless kiting I keep reading about. (from what I'm reading especially in the air)

Thats PK not PVP. This is an MMO, if someones constantly ganking your *** go get your friends, call for help or go somewhere else.

Back on L2 or UO guildies would always help each other out even on WoW because of the faction nature of the game same as Aion I am sure randoms would love to help you out by fighting the opposing race.

[durango]

Originally Posted by Daimoku

3. But they have low magic resistance this isn't WoW where armor is for physical defense only, it also gives magical defense and plate has the lowest. HP wise almost all teh classes are at the same level.

Um, HP wise there are SIGNIFICANT differences. Like 2-3x difference between some classes.

[jackace]

Originally Posted by Super Novice

Thats PK not PVP. This is an MMO, if someones constantly ganking your *** go get your friends, call for help or go somewhere else.

Back on L2 or UO guildies would always help each other out even on WoW because of the faction nature of the game same as Aion I am sure randoms would love to help you out by fighting the opposing race.

It's still part of the PvP experience and will happen often.

Why should the characters that have the benefit of range and have tons of CC be the best at 1v1 style fights? That just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Give them the ability to escape and live to fight another day, which is something melee never get against ranged. This alone would discourage the PKing/ganking and encorage grouping since melee would not be getting solo kills much since ranged will just CC and run away, and ranged would not be getting solo kills because melee would kill them if they stuck around till the end. Now you have no real scenario for PKing and ganking to happen, and you encourage everyone to group. As things are now all reports show ranged have their way with melee in the abyss unless the melee has a priest to heal and cleanse them.

[Exfrost]

But i have to say that Templars are not so bad at abyss. Only Gladi is, but it`s very hard to fix this, a 2nd charge would bring him nothing cause roots (even with Armor of Balance, dont forgett: also other players have stigma too^^). The only thing he would make him stronger were a dash with chance to 1nd stun, but i doubt if this makes him overpowered. Just a dash withou stun, but with a short cooldown would make him definitly OP. So, what should NC-Soft do. Its a great Problem in my opinion, thought about this problem for Weeks. I good option for sure were the templar pulling skill, but it isnt cool if they have the same stigma skill and people would crying "uuu, gladi got ankle snare and AoB allready, so why now this too...".

[jugded]

Originally Posted by jackace

It's still part of the PvP experience and will happen often.

Why should the characters that have the benefit of range and have tons of CC be the best at 1v1 style fights? That just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Give them the ability to escape and live to fight another day, which is something melee never get against ranged. This alone would discourage the PKing/ganking and encorage grouping since melee would not be getting solo kills much since ranged will just CC and run away, and ranged would not be getting solo kills because melee would kill them if they stuck around till the end. Now you have no real scenario for PKing and ganking to happen, and you encourage everyone to group. As things are now all reports show ranged have their way with melee in the abyss unless the melee has a priest to heal and cleanse them.

Because in grp fights rangers/mages get face smashed, while everyone leaves us alone or cant burst us down through our healer. In every grp fight ive had, glads temps are the last targets to get called. Honestly in grp fights we rapeface.

Now im only 32, but i run around with 4 other 32's. We fight 37+ all the time, in grps and all, i can tell u CC's dont mean much when u get a awesome cleric with u. Or the fact they hav 5 peeps to chose from and when ya coordination targets and stuff the other grp is getting all divided and stuff.

In 1v1 ranged hav all theres CC's for just one target, they cc do damage, when the cc is over they do another one. In grp they CC it gets broken by ur skills or cleric, they try again, same thing. Not to mention they hav 3 other peeps chasing them aswell. Now i as a Glad i can handle 2-3 players on me easyly with a cleric a ranged class cant.

This is where its balanced, role a Sin if u want a melee class that can solo.

Originally Posted by jackace

Why should the characters that have the benefit of range and have tons of CC be the best at 1v1 style fights? That just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

This makes perfect sence to me. CC's + range = target dead.

[Romanec]

Originally Posted by Trezzle

I fought a level 19 ranger aa a level 19 Temp he was trapping me, slowing me down, there was nothing i could do, he even had time to rest up his health while i was rooted. He just sat there and also he was fighting mobs while fighting me. I dont know what kinda gear he had but i dont know how any level 19 Templar could have beat him.

Plus from what hear that pull templars get at level 22 fails at least 50% of the time

How did you do that ?? I mean... you are supposed to be 25 to go to abyss... and if you were dueling, doesn't the duel get interrupted when one of the player gets attacked by a mob?

Btw... at lvl 19 as templar you are only an easy shot, specially for rangers... and of course.. when you figh someone, you can see WHEN and WHERE he places the trap... try to get out of range and play with terrain... lure him to a tree area, or just notice where he placed the trap and WALK AROUND... it's not hard to see... Cya!

[Daimoku]

Originally Posted by Romanec

How did you do that ?? I mean... you are supposed to be 25 to go to abyss... and if you were dueling, doesn't the duel get interrupted when one of the player gets attacked by a mob?

It doesn't get interrupted when you get attacked by a mob what are y0u talking about?