Average Crit Rate

BigKevSexyMan · 10-09-2009, 01:43 AM

I'm trying to gather some data here to discover the average cost of what we should sell our weapons for. Anyways, in order to do that, I need people to post what they get on average for criting white->green, green->blue, blue->orange.

So far my rate is:
w->g 1/6 avg
g->b n/a
b->o n/a

If you guys could post what your average success is, then I'd appreciate it.

ashin · 10-09-2009, 09:39 AM

My white-to-green in titantium has been ~40%. But historically it was 25%.

My green-to-blue has been 100%, and that is with an unreasonably small sample size (2).

I'll not be manufacturing titan weapons again until mats prices settle on my server. In the meantime, I'm liquidating my materials inventory this weekend.

Phoenix Pinion · 10-09-2009, 12:22 PM

In tailoring making luxury leather I have about a 40% crit rate on that. This makes me believe that different type items are going to have different crit rates. For instance I was getting like 66% crit rate on boots but something stupidly low for a chest piece or weapon. What I have started doing is pricing my critted items 5 times the cost to make a non-crit at least that way I am guaranteed to get something back from all of this.

wuy3 · 10-09-2009, 01:16 PM

Last night made 3x titanium swords:

Results:
----------------------
white
green -> green+
green -> blue

I'm feeling really lucky right now

Savage-Zeke · 10-09-2009, 01:44 PM

i give it 5 tries and its usually 1/5 for me, its never failed me yet

RamzaBehoulve · 10-09-2009, 03:11 PM

I also do 5 tries as well. Most of time I get at least 1 proc, sometimes 2-3 and only once I got none.

Phoenix Pinion · 10-09-2009, 03:30 PM

If I ever get like 5 no procs in a row i usually stop the crafting because there are going to be more no procs to follow. Thats when I wait a few minutes to start again and hopefull the RNG will be different.

BigKevSexyMan · 10-11-2009, 02:08 AM

So far, based off of what was posted in this thread and among other threads, the averages so far are:

w->g with 17% or 22 success out of 126 attempts
g->b with 21% or 6 success out of 28 attempts

However, I think there may be a slight skew as no one goes on a forum to express so-so results. Whether that's the case or not more data will be a big help.

As for a new approximation, I'd wager the real rate so far is 20% to upgrade a weapon as to the formerly though 25% chance to upgrade a weapon. A margin of error of -3/+3 seems fair.

Coaltrain · 10-13-2009, 05:54 AM

It's been very random for me with 3-4/5 w->g sometimes and 1/10 at others. I can't make any sense of it.

ashin · 10-13-2009, 02:24 PM

Had an awful weekend. After 15 durable titan cycles: 14 whites, 1 green, 0 blues.

Legionmate did a single, 16-cycle run and his result: 16 whites.

Have started to quesiton whether something got screwed up with the last maintenance.

Daylos · 10-13-2009, 02:52 PM

Lately, my success rate has also been terrible. Speaking of things that have changed since last maitenance, has anyone noticed the increased drop rate in High-Grade <insert mat name>? I was late leveling up my extracting, but I was still making a killing selling HG Aether Crystals, Titanium, and Gold before the last maintenance. Now, the prices for all of them have fallen through the floor. The drop rates have increased so it wouldn't surprise me if other rates have been "adjusted".

Phydeaux · 10-13-2009, 02:57 PM

First Try
17 Attempts - > 16 whites, One Green
One Green -> No Blues

Second Try
2 Attempts - > One White, One Green
One Green - > No Blue

So 19 attempts 2 normal worthy weapons.

ashin · 10-13-2009, 03:20 PM

Is it possible we're seeing a lower crit rate because we're attempting to craft higher-level items?

The concern I have is that the white weapons are practically worthless and, unlike other tradeskills, sell back for less than the cost of NPC reagents in most cases. (Did you know that other crafters can make things and sell them to the NPC for a profit, even if they've purchased the mats???)

So, if they are not at least making it feasible to get past that initial hurdle, there could be deep problems.

Phoenix Pinion · 10-13-2009, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashin

(Did you know that other crafters can make things and sell them to the NPC for a profit, even if they've purchased the mats???)

So, if they are not at least making it feasible to get past that initial hurdle, there could be deep problems.

Explain this part because I been having all kinds of hell trying to craft.

ashin · 10-13-2009, 07:22 PM

You quoted two parts. Which one would you like me to elaborate on? :P

10-09-2009, 01:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
BigKevSexyMan Daeva Join Date: Sep 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Race: Undecided Server: Undecided	Average Crit Rate I'm trying to gather some data here to discover the average cost of what we should sell our weapons for. Anyways, in order to do that, I need people to post what they get on average for criting white->green, green->blue, blue->orange. So far my rate is: w->g 1/6 avg g->b n/a b->o n/a If you guys could post what your average success is, then I'd appreciate it.

10-13-2009, 02:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
Phydeaux Officer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, TX Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Phydeaux Class: Gladiator Legion: Channel Four News Team Race: Asmodians Server: Yustiel	First Try 17 Attempts - > 16 whites, One Green One Green -> No Blues Second Try 2 Attempts - > One White, One Green One Green - > No Blue So 19 attempts 2 normal worthy weapons. __________________ Oh nyerk... it's Fido !

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10-09-2009, 09:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
ashin General Join Date: Apr 2009 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts Legion: South of Heaven Race: Asmodians Server: Lumiel	My white-to-green in titantium has been ~40%. But historically it was 25%. My green-to-blue has been 100%, and that is with an unreasonably small sample size (2). I'll not be manufacturing titan weapons again until mats prices settle on my server. In the meantime, I'm liquidating my materials inventory this weekend.

10-09-2009, 12:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
Phoenix Pinion Star Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Race: Asmodians Server: Marchutan	In tailoring making luxury leather I have about a 40% crit rate on that. This makes me believe that different type items are going to have different crit rates. For instance I was getting like 66% crit rate on boots but something stupidly low for a chest piece or weapon. What I have started doing is pricing my critted items 5 times the cost to make a non-crit at least that way I am guaranteed to get something back from all of this.

10-09-2009, 01:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
wuy3 Daeva Join Date: Oct 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Muulan Class: Templar Legion: eDs Race: Asmodians Server: Yustiel	Last night made 3x titanium swords: Results: ---------------------- white green -> green+ green -> blue I'm feeling really lucky right now

10-09-2009, 01:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
Savage-Zeke Soldier Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Zeke Class: Chanter Legion: Savage Race: Elyos Server: Siel	i give it 5 tries and its usually 1/5 for me, its never failed me yet

10-09-2009, 03:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
RamzaBehoulve General Join Date: Jul 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts Character: Ramza Class: Templar Race: Elyos Server: Spatalos	I also do 5 tries as well. Most of time I get at least 1 proc, sometimes 2-3 and only once I got none.

10-09-2009, 03:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
Phoenix Pinion Star Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Race: Asmodians Server: Marchutan	If I ever get like 5 no procs in a row i usually stop the crafting because there are going to be more no procs to follow. Thats when I wait a few minutes to start again and hopefull the RNG will be different.

10-11-2009, 02:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
BigKevSexyMan Daeva Join Date: Sep 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Race: Undecided Server: Undecided	So far, based off of what was posted in this thread and among other threads, the averages so far are: w->g with 17% or 22 success out of 126 attempts g->b with 21% or 6 success out of 28 attempts However, I think there may be a slight skew as no one goes on a forum to express so-so results. Whether that's the case or not more data will be a big help. As for a new approximation, I'd wager the real rate so far is 20% to upgrade a weapon as to the formerly though 25% chance to upgrade a weapon. A margin of error of -3/+3 seems fair.

10-13-2009, 05:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
Coaltrain Human Join Date: Oct 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Race: Undecided Server: Perento	It's been very random for me with 3-4/5 w->g sometimes and 1/10 at others. I can't make any sense of it.

10-13-2009, 02:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
ashin General Join Date: Apr 2009 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts Legion: South of Heaven Race: Asmodians Server: Lumiel	Had an awful weekend. After 15 durable titan cycles: 14 whites, 1 green, 0 blues. Legionmate did a single, 16-cycle run and his result: 16 whites. Have started to quesiton whether something got screwed up with the last maintenance.

10-13-2009, 02:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
Daylos Human Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia, U.S.A. Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Daylos Class: Templar Legion: Insidious Race: Asmodians Server: Azphel	Lately, my success rate has also been terrible. Speaking of things that have changed since last maitenance, has anyone noticed the increased drop rate in High-Grade <insert mat name>? I was late leveling up my extracting, but I was still making a killing selling HG Aether Crystals, Titanium, and Gold before the last maintenance. Now, the prices for all of them have fallen through the floor. The drop rates have increased so it wouldn't surprise me if other rates have been "adjusted".

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10-13-2009, 03:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
ashin General Join Date: Apr 2009 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts Legion: South of Heaven Race: Asmodians Server: Lumiel	Is it possible we're seeing a lower crit rate because we're attempting to craft higher-level items? The concern I have is that the white weapons are practically worthless and, unlike other tradeskills, sell back for less than the cost of NPC reagents in most cases. (Did you know that other crafters can make things and sell them to the NPC for a profit, even if they've purchased the mats???) So, if they are not at least making it feasible to get past that initial hurdle, there could be deep problems.

10-13-2009, 07:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
ashin General Join Date: Apr 2009 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts Legion: South of Heaven Race: Asmodians Server: Lumiel	You quoted two parts. Which one would you like me to elaborate on? :P