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Posted 22 February 2009 - 02:22 PM

I really want to know if cooking has anything to offer besides being another name for alchemy. Anyone have any answers?

Maybe there could be certain recipes that give you the buff of explosive diarrhea. +5 acid damage.
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Posted 22 February 2009 - 02:24 PM

I would imagine that the food gives buffs which would stack with the potions from Alchemy.
Cooking has its uses :)
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Posted 22 February 2009 - 04:35 PM

is cooking necessary? thats a subjective question... is it different than alchemy? yup...

one mixes items to make potions... one mixes ingredients to make food stuffs...

similar in approach, sure... but different for those that want to lose themselves in the atmosphere of the game... :)
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Posted 22 February 2009 - 10:54 PM

Good artistic argument. Now for the practical.
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 02:41 AM

lol, but the practical is never forum worthy...

but i do believe it plays an integral part in the buff system of Aion...we need an update form the koreans on this sort of thing.
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 02:44 AM

You know better than to ask for answers about Aion! But seriously, cooking is so superfluous. It served absolutely no real purpose in WoW and it's not looking any better for Aion right now either.
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 04:15 AM

well, since you brought up WoW already,
if it restores health and gives a buff for X-amount of time,
its quite usefull :l

to bad it takes a lot of time in WoW to get cooking to a decent level for the buffs
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 09:10 AM

In aion, unlike many games (WoW), cooking brings different buffs to the table than alchemy. For example, some foods (which are quite expensive), let you gain and retain DP (DP = TP) faster. which is very important in aion. Food buffs last longer but also take longer to activate, where as alchemy potions are instant. For example, the flying-timer, alchemy has potions which increase that, also important because of a lot of in flight combat in the abyss. If you fall you die, if you try to run you die...etc. Another important item you craft through alchemy are scroll which you will need plenty of. These scrolls do everything from up damage to up defense to increasing your run speed or flying speed. Running and Flying speed is very important because there is nothing worse than an assasin just meleeing you down while you try to escape. Actually there is something worse, an Asmodian escaping from death by popping a scroll and you not having one to chase him down (pooh!). And judging by how these scrolls are used now, I believe everyone on eu/na side will use them 24/7 also.

In my opinion cooking is just as viable a craft as armorsmithing in aion, if not more so for kina making purposes. I myself do alchemy and cooking and make a lot more kina than most players who do weaponsmithing or armorsmithing, because the success precentage for rare (blue) items is low and for unique (yellow) items it is even lower. At this time there isn't a lot of information on how to increase these percentages. If some new information comes, then the tables might turn, but for right now, that's how it is.

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 12:28 PM

Yeah, as of right now, cooking and alchemy are basically the same. They gotta do something about this.
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 12:47 PM

Are the buffs similar though? Sounds like alch produces short term or one-shot boosts but not really stat improvements as Cooking might.
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 12:55 PM

The only practical benefit to it is stacking food with potions. If they made it a more critical aspect of gameplay, it might be worth the breath to talk about.
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 02:14 PM

I hate wow. Anyways I believe cooking and alchemy is similar to FFXI (Which came out waaay before wow ever did mind you...)
alchemy = healing Hp and rejuvinating mana and increasing flight time.

Food = Long lasting buffs that increase stats.

Both are NOT the same. Saying they are the same is like saying that a medic kit is the same as flak jacket are the same in first person shooters. Their not.
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 04:36 PM

I feel like I am repeating myself but, alchemy and cooking give DIFFERENT buffs.

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How can I make it clearer?
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 05:11 PM

Yeah, I read what you said, but I don't see a difference. Like there aren't going to be potions that heal HP or DP over time? There's no clear cut difference between them even if the time in which the effects kick in are not the same. They'd have to do some serious buffing to make cooking viable for people who want to make Qina.
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 06:36 PM

That is exactly what I am saying. There are no potions for DP, none. Just like there are no foods that give speed buffs. There are other buffs as well, that you can only get through cooking or alchemy, but not both.

They are like totally separate crafts. In fact I am trying to think, and I can not think of one buff both alchemy and cooking give.

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 06:38 PM

They ARE totally separate crafts. But they're very very similar in function. I guess we'll have to see if that makes a difference at release.
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 07:35 PM

No one's forcing you to take cooking though.

I know for sure I'm going to take cooking. I want to be able to perform the best on my character and any kind of buff will help me do just that. In my eyes it will be worth it but at the same time you're not dependent on it. And that's how it should be, imo.

If you don't want to level cooking up you can save materials and get someone else to craft it.
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 07:44 PM

I'm just being my regular ol' suggestin' self. I figure it's worth making note of.
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 08:31 AM

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;291275'']They ARE totally separate crafts. But they're very very similar in function. I guess we'll have to see if that makes a difference at release.


That's like saying Armorsmithing and Tailoring are the same thing because they both make armor.

Oh and alchemists can make weapons too and is considered a main skill whereas cooking just makes food.

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 01:51 PM

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;290671'']You know better than to ask for answers about Aion! But seriously, cooking is so superfluous. It served absolutely no real purpose in WoW and it's not looking any better for Aion right now either.


Well seem to me that WOW had pretty dam good food buffs. Lower lvls did suck but higher level where pretty dam good. They stack with Potions and offered you something that Pot didnt. A lots of times they buff to of your stats vs. one. Down fall they disappeared at death unlike the higher lvl Pots. But where a hell of a lot cheaper the make to. Down fall over all if cooking is anything as boring to lvl up as it was on WOW if will be a waste of Server and HD space. Only the hardcore nerds will must likley spend 3 months grinding ponds with a fishing pole to lvl up there fishing/cooking skills. Ill wait to see how it pans out and then power lvl it if that possible from AH items.
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