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Master Quest nerfed for NA/EU ? "westernization" seems to happen...

#21 User is offline   Iph 

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 01:33 PM

well I am trying to decide between mastering alchemy or tailoring. either being able to craft a whole set which I can wear or a badass weapon. I tend to do alchemy bc it will be the only way to craft the new potions/scrolls/manastones of any upcoming patches. But I am realy not sure on this.
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Posted 05 September 2010 - 02:18 PM

View PostIph, on 05 September 2010 - 01:33 PM, said:

well I am trying to decide between mastering alchemy or tailoring. either being able to craft a whole set which I can wear or a badass weapon. I tend to do alchemy bc it will be the only way to craft the new potions/scrolls/manastones of any upcoming patches. But I am realy not sure on this.


Armorset will be for PvE only, Weapon will be PvP and PvE

Decision is easy for me.
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Posted 05 September 2010 - 03:54 PM

View PostIph, on 05 September 2010 - 01:33 PM, said:

well I am trying to decide between mastering alchemy or tailoring. either being able to craft a whole set which I can wear or a badass weapon. I tend to do alchemy bc it will be the only way to craft the new potions/scrolls/manastones of any upcoming patches. But I am realy not sure on this.


If they are both on the same character, then alchemy without a single doubt. You can easily expert tailoring on a secondary character for a fraction of the price it would take you to expert alchemy.
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#24 User is offline   Mikelenn 

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 04:42 PM

View PostMuka, on 05 September 2010 - 03:54 PM, said:

If they are both on the same character, then alchemy without a single doubt. You can easily expert tailoring on a secondary character for a fraction of the price it would take you to expert alchemy.


Hes asking which to master so he can make the "carved" armors (which are soulbound upon crafting). So having an alt with it isnt any use.
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Posted 05 September 2010 - 05:31 PM

Master Noble armor is very popular on korean.
And it can be sold easy.
I'd go tailoring.
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Posted 05 September 2010 - 06:15 PM

View PostMikelenn, on 05 September 2010 - 02:18 PM, said:

Armorset will be for PvE only, Weapon will be PvP and PvE

Decision is easy for me.


You haven't looked at the set I suppose.. some are actually good.

View PostIph, on 05 September 2010 - 01:33 PM, said:

well I am trying to decide between mastering alchemy or tailoring. either being able to craft a whole set which I can wear or a badass weapon. I tend to do alchemy bc it will be the only way to craft the new potions/scrolls/manastones of any upcoming patches. But I am realy not sure on this.


That is true, but future patches you could easily redo the alchemy test(LOLOL right?) if the 500+ contain tradable consumables.
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Posted 05 September 2010 - 07:03 PM

View PostMikelenn, on 05 September 2010 - 04:42 PM, said:

Hes asking which to master so he can make the "carved" armors (which are soulbound upon crafting). So having an alt with it isnt any use.


Ok, then the doubt makes perfect sense now. I seem to have missed all this carved armor stuff... going to check it out now O.o;
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Posted 05 September 2010 - 07:22 PM

For alchemy I'm ganna use the orb for an example.

http://www.aionarmor...px?id=100500682

^Is the first orange craft which seems pretty nice, right?

http://www.aionarmor...px?id=155007186

Now you got more acc and slightly better stats.

Now the book

http://www.aionarmor...px?id=100600739
http://www.aionarmor...px?id=100600784

+82 more MB and again slightly better stats. Having master carved items doesn't seem to bad. I'm ganna try for the entire chain set.


http://www.aionarmor...px?id=125002181
http://www.aionarmor...px?id=125002369

Check out the conc difference. Jesus

Also each fragment is sold by each fort in the ground abyss.
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Posted 05 September 2010 - 08:10 PM

well... alchemy weapons are either 3-times procc (balic) or 4-times procc (carved). armors are only 1 (!) procc. even if it does not procc its still a good gold item (and sellable).

and I think the carved armor (cloth at least) might also be good for pvp, bc there is a lot of m.res and phys. def on em. gawd, i am so not sure what to do.. -.-
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Posted 05 September 2010 - 08:32 PM

You see! Choices choices..
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Posted 05 September 2010 - 09:53 PM

If the next major korean update maintains the 1 master craft limit then alchemy is better in the long run. lvl 70 attack stones CHACHING. If the next major update allows 2 master crafts, then it's better to raise tailor now for the immediate rewards of eternal armor.
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Posted 05 September 2010 - 11:37 PM

View PostIph, on 05 September 2010 - 08:10 PM, said:

well... alchemy weapons are either 3-times procc (balic) or 4-times procc (carved). armors are only 1 (!) procc. even if it does not procc its still a good gold item (and sellable).

Weapons always have been more difficult to craft than armor. But, they sell for much more as well.

Take the 19% Castspeed Orb for example. That thing is really awesome. Even the blue version has 19% speed already so you only need a double-proc and then a non-proc on the Expert version for a guaranteed sell with which you'll probably make profit already, let alone what happens if you actually triple-proc or more.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 02:49 AM

alchemy or tailoring alchemy or tailoring?


i'll probably go alchemy... because even expert blue->gold tailoring gloves have cast speed in it... so i can craft them even NAU and sell them for a good amount of money

and this game teaches me that a good weapon is harder to achieve compared to a good armor...
also with the weapon merge, a pve weapon can now be a pvp one as well...

also a weapon is more representative for a character than the armor... and using a Haine's Darkwater Tome as a weapon is priceless :sparkles: :sparkles:

for the armor... i'm really confused...
ofc the best pvp armor around is the elite 50... but for casters they added this cast speed gloves thing... that is making me wonder...

dunno if going full elite 50 (8% attack speed 140 mboost, 40 m accuracy) or only 3 elite 50 pieces and then cast speed gloves and new pauldrons/boots?

also, i saw many koreans wearing full eternal instead of pvp armor even for pvp
damn, how could it be? is eternal armor THIS damn good to even crush the pvp bonus in usefulness?

... guess we will have to see how the metagame will turn and act in response...
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 09:58 AM

I think the eternal "pve" armor will be better for pvp.

here is the robe for example compared to pvp armor:
http://www.aiondatab...1098;110101101;

look at the phys. def , m.res and hp difference. I don't know the math but I wonder if that will make up the 5% dmg reduce of the pvp robe. the carved armor also is lvl 53. enraged mastarius/veile's are 55 and hav even better stats.

I think I am going to wait before I decide what to master depending on dropluck and server situation concerning how easy it'll be to get mastarius/veile's quest stuff.

View PostOo_Haine_oO, on 06 September 2010 - 02:49 AM, said:

dunno if going full elite 50 (8% attack speed 140 mboost, 40 m accuracy) or only 3 elite 50 pieces and then cast speed gloves and new pauldrons/boots?

also, i saw many koreans wearing full eternal instead of pvp armor even for pvp
damn, how could it be? is eternal armor THIS damn good to even crush the pvp bonus in usefulness?


If you don't have full lvl 50 elite gear yet I wouldn't bother getting it now. If you have it and still want to go full pvp gear, I think 3/5 elite + 55 chest & gloves are a good choice. But if you break the 5/5 set bonus you could also go full lvl 55, bc the difference is marginal.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 10:18 AM

I don't think it's fair to compare gold PvP with eternal PvE stuff.

I know, the eternal PvP stuff won't be available right away, but I'm sure the eternal PvE stuff will be a pain in the ass to get as well.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 10:21 AM

View PostDisil, on 06 September 2010 - 10:18 AM, said:

I don't think it's fair to compare gold PvP with eternal PvE stuff.

I know, the eternal PvP stuff won't be available right away, but I'm sure the eternal PvE stuff will be a pain in the ass to get as well.


Not if you're rich and saved up 100mil. Could probably have 2 pieces by the end of the week.
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 12:29 AM

One thing I noticed that the recipe for the guarantee proc costs exactly 5 times as much as the 1 attempt proc. My guess is that they made the price close to what the proc rate is supposed to be. Maybe they will go back and redo the expert quest to change the fluxes to be what we can buy from the npc and make the items non-tradeable. Then we will see who gets expert the legit way instead of cheating.


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Posted 07 September 2010 - 12:46 AM

lol at OP
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 11:35 AM

Whyyyyyyyy are you complaaaaaaaaaaaainiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinggggggggggggggggggg, jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus christ @__________@

Apart from that, not mastering alchemy at all, nu-uh, mega waste imo. Master Tailor gogogo =)
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 11:51 AM

I go through pot like crazy
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