[Menaace]

I brought the white suit back. Here it is, 2.0, taking no damage in 1v1's, 1v2's, 1v3's... against asmos with a 20% PvP buff.

Sorcs will look at the debuffs and see a lot of creative choice-making that you don't see in other videos, un-pottable slows/silences, forward blinks, jumpshots, z-axis hitbox dodging, cliff edge latency tricks... and hopefully appreciate the flashy fight style that made the sorc a famous class, and it matches the music

Everyone else you will probably say "nom not anothor sorc nuke video, OP!"

Either case, here it is.

[Enforceraw]

aside from almost all of the opponents being under 55 in blue gear, it was something!

[cezi]

Despite the fact you took damage on numerous occasions, the so called tricks you highlight work against braindead people. Ie. not potting silence from sleep etc.


Sorry nothing special, just another sorc video.

[Menaace]

Enforceraw, on 19 November 2010 - 11:07 PM, said:

aside from almost all of the opponents being under 55 in blue gear, it was something!

Why thank you sir. Oh and I digress.

1) 20% pvp buff = two gold 50 AP weapons.
2) Sorcs dmg = my MBoost vs their Elem Resist. Your gold armor give you more elem resist? Moot.
2a) Ok they can socket HP with extra slots and have a PvP defense buff... that will allow them to survive... one extra spell.

So what you really are saying, is that the asmos on my server are just PvP retarded. NCSoft took away my Coven Nex, what can I do? :/

cezion, on 19 November 2010 - 11:16 PM, said:

braindead people Ie. not potting silence from sleep etc.

I think it's more braindead to think someone can use a pot while they are sleeping.

[cezi]

Menaace, on 20 November 2010 - 12:50 AM, said:

Why thank you sir. Oh and I digress.

1) 20% pvp buff = two gold 50 AP weapons.
2) Sorcs dmg = my MBoost vs their Elem Resist. Your gold armor give you more elem resist? Moot.
2a) Ok they can socket HP with extra slots and have a PvP defense buff... that will allow them to survive... one extra spell.

So what you really are saying, is that the asmos on my server are just PvP retarded. NCSoft took away my Coven Nex, what can I do? :/



I think it's more braindead to think someone can use a pot while they are sleeping.

Silence wakes you up, retards will get caught in this order;
Sleep>wakeup(silencedamage)>stunned while silenced.
People who know how to play will pot as soon as silence hits, theres no way you as a sorc can stop it without stacking debuffs before it.

[Tepichan]

i liked. but i dont understand how pvp buffs are useful against sorcs =3

[Grimstar]

Very nice vid, added it to my favorite aion vids, sorc can actually learn something from this
But i see ure wearing a spellbook which looks like betoni's, u still have betoni's tome?

[roflacoptor_4502741]

still awaiting haya's response to this video for the epic conclusion.

[Hayabusa]

"I brought the white suit back. Here it is, 2.0, taking no damage in 1v1's, 1v2's, 1v3's... against asmos with a 20% PvP buff."

This is my version of your intro:

I brought the white suit back and pwning pve scrubs with advanced 2.0 rotations

The rotations were good for sure but the enemy is way to weak to even respond.
Instead of doing trouble of making them use removeshock > cc > aetherhold (wich is a great combo) i bet you could do silence+stun and they would die aswell amirite?

Simply because the enemy is not a pvper and cant react
stuff like silence > arcane could be easily defeaten because its too slow

Whut i am trying to say is that the combo's would be less effective if used on good players and that would make the fights more interesting and less flawless, because a sorcerer can kill people flawless if the enemy is braindead we got CC's, damage, silences, slows, stuns, aetherhold u name it so its only natural you kill someone 1vs1 flawless if he is braindead your a sorc after all

Goodthing about the video is that it will help bad sorcs to become a bit better or alot better depending on the player. so +1 for that

Only minus is the enemy is too weak. you should try to pvp more in fort-zone instead of pve zone (not that it matters aloot but it does help getting better players to fight)

It was quite enjoyable to watch elyos sorc doing right combo's and it would be "flawless" if the enemy was geared like yourself or close to and if you indeed didnt take damage or die
Because it looked like everytime u made a mistake u edited it with some flashy effect :p Not that it is wrong to do that, it is only natural you did it. But i dont get why you would call it flawless, untouched blabla :p

Dont get me wrong, i liked it and keep it up just sayin' it aint flawless yo (not that it have to be, but cus u sayin it is)

[Menaace]

Haya, on 20 November 2010 - 02:53 PM, said:

"I brought the white suit back. Here it is, 2.0, taking no damage in 1v1's, 1v2's, 1v3's... against asmos with a 20% PvP buff."

This is my version of your intro:

I brought the white suit back and pwning pve scrubs with advanced 2.0 rotations

The rotations were good for sure but the enemy is way to weak to even respond.
Instead of doing trouble of making them use removeshock > cc > aetherhold (wich is a great combo) i bet you could do silence+stun and they would die aswell amirite?

Simply because the enemy is not a pvper and cant react
stuff like silence > arcane could be easily defeaten because its too slow

Whut i am trying to say is that the combo's would be less effective if used on good players and that would make the fights more interesting and less flawless, because a sorcerer can kill people flawless if the enemy is braindead we got CC's, damage, silences, slows, stuns, aetherhold u name it so its only natural you kill someone 1vs1 flawless if he is braindead your a sorc after all

Goodthing about the video is that it will help bad sorcs to become a bit better or alot better depending on the player. so +1 for that

Only minus is the enemy is too weak. you should try to pvp more in fort-zone instead of pve zone (not that it matters aloot but it does help getting better players to fight)

It was quite enjoyable to watch elyos sorc doing right combo's and it would be "flawless" if the enemy was geared like yourself or close to and if you indeed didnt take damage or die
Because it looked like everytime u made a mistake u edited it with some flashy effect :p Not that it is wrong to do that, it is only natural you did it. But i dont get why you would call it flawless, untouched blabla :p

Dont get me wrong, i liked it and keep it up just sayin' it aint flawless yo (not that it have to be, but cus u sayin it is)

Thanks for the comments. One thing is that I didn't edit out mistakes you can see on the combat log usually, editing was to match it all up to the music. If you pay attention just about every action in the video is tied to the rhythm of the song


You are right about silence and stun, can be countered, but that goes for any class. Ranger casts stunning shot, then silence arrow, good PvP'rs can react in that too, but it's their best rotation. I could have easily done Soul Freeze / IS, which you are right is a better combination.

I have a foolproof method against sorcs and sm's that I don't show in the video because it's not widely known, tryin to keep it that way. I'd pm you how I do it, it involves a special macro for that exact purpose.

Flawless was just the name of the video and the last one I did, more about fighting to not take damage. A mindset. I like to make video's to look cool, and be entertaining.
Most people mention that my opponents have bad gear, normal gold gear is no different than blue or green gear and change magic damage! Of all the pvp'rs that are commenting here that surprises me that mistake is made often. Because damage is my mboost vs their elem resist, which is typically constant for everyone. And if it's PvP defense, like a full elite set, let's say 10% defense (10% PvP defense = 10% more HP, on a sorc with 8000 HP that turns into 8800 HP, and 800 dmg is a fraction of a spell... which in most cases doesn't make the battle longer because 800 damage is easily overkill damage anyway.)

Anyway, thank you for your critique man, appreciated. I like to make my videos fun to watch, glad you enjoyed it!

[Tritus73]

Awesome vid! Can't wait to hit 55 and start doing some damage!

[xiaoS]

this....is...




























FLAWLESS!

[falroid]

any video w/o boq or general godstones is nice to see.
nice sorc.

[Menaace]

Grimstar, on 20 November 2010 - 11:16 AM, said:

Very nice vid, added it to my favorite aion vids, sorc can actually learn something from this
But i see ure wearing a spellbook which looks like betoni's, u still have betoni's tome?

Thanks man, and no it's not Betoni's tome, it's Dragon Deity's tome with a 50 AP combine, +10

Tritus73, on 20 November 2010 - 04:40 PM, said:

Awesome vid! Can't wait to hit 55 and start doing some damage!

You will love playing the sorc at 55, there are so many different sorc builds depending on your playstyle too at the end of the game, which keeps it from getting boring

xiaoS, on 20 November 2010 - 06:29 PM, said:

this....is...

FLAWLESS!

Shingxiao <3 !!!! lol thanks man

falroid, on 20 November 2010 - 07:50 PM, said:

any video w/o boq or general godstones is nice to see.
nice sorc.

Thank you friend. When I watch BoQ videos, it makes me sad. Insta cast truly is the only current OP in Aion. Hopefully sorcs don't take a nerf because of it. They could just get rid of that stigma to begin with, as 40-50% cast speed is OP enough

[Hayabusa]

Menaace, on 20 November 2010 - 04:38 PM, said:

Thanks for the comments. One thing is that I didn't edit out mistakes you can see on the combat log usually, editing was to match it all up to the music. If you pay attention just about every action in the video is tied to the rhythm of the song


You are right about silence and stun, can be countered, but that goes for any class. Ranger casts stunning shot, then silence arrow, good PvP'rs can react in that too, but it's their best rotation. I could have easily done Soul Freeze / IS, which you are right is a better combination.

I have a foolproof method against sorcs and sm's that I don't show in the video because it's not widely known, tryin to keep it that way. I'd pm you how I do it, it involves a special macro for that exact purpose.

Flawless was just the name of the video and the last one I did, more about fighting to not take damage. A mindset. I like to make video's to look cool, and be entertaining.
Most people mention that my opponents have bad gear, normal gold gear is no different than blue or green gear and change magic damage! Of all the pvp'rs that are commenting here that surprises me that mistake is made often. Because damage is my mboost vs their elem resist, which is typically constant for everyone. And if it's PvP defense, like a full elite set, let's say 10% defense (10% PvP defense = 10% more HP, on a sorc with 8000 HP that turns into 8800 HP, and 800 dmg is a fraction of a spell... which in most cases doesn't make the battle longer because 800 damage is easily overkill damage anyway.)

Anyway, thank you for your critique man, appreciated. I like to make my videos fun to watch, glad you enjoyed it!

I see i see, this pretty much explains alot
And yeah i do agree with rangers and stunningshot/silencearrow also dont forget lately we got elementalward, helps alot with resists against them
Also about gear part, yeah for sure like ive always said the outcome of the battle is not mostly decided by gear but usually by how the players start there rotations and when one makes a mistake he will get cc'd and probably will lose the battle or so. (as a example)
But some decent gear is kind of needed

pretty good songs btw, if u named them in teh video then soz but can you gimme the names?:P
And your welcome about compliments, its well deserved

[Menaace]

Haya, on 20 November 2010 - 08:34 PM, said:

I see i see, this pretty much explains alot
And yeah i do agree with rangers and stunningshot/silencearrow also dont forget lately we got elementalward, helps alot with resists against them
Also about gear part, yeah for sure like ive always said the outcome of the battle is not mostly decided by gear but usually by how the players start there rotations and when one makes a mistake he will get cc'd and probably will lose the battle or so. (as a example)
But some decent gear is kind of needed

pretty good songs btw, if u named them in teh video then soz but can you gimme the names?:P
And your welcome about compliments, its well deserved

Yes sir, I did name them at the very end, but I'll put them here too.
Evans Blue - Dear Lucid Our Time is Right now.
Anberlin - Fin
Death Cab for Cutie - Brothers on a Hotel Bed.

And good point Haya about the rotation. I agree, that's the major outcome especially with sorcs. And I've been dying for better opponents unfortunately on my server, the asmo's that are good, are so hard to find, because they have to babysit their AP (I don't blame them) because they never have any inner forts to shove AP in their pockets and stay low ranks :/

Yea Elemental Ward is nice, but in my case I'm AT and Supp hybrid, so there's no room :/ I still see enough MR clerics and chanters to justify Supp of Focus over Elem Ward. Especially in dreg, because my team is dual sorc Me/Kazuko, any MR's I take, he's PvE build for our team's DPS and DPS in PvP while I usually am on CC duty.

[Hayabusa]

Menaace, on 21 November 2010 - 01:57 AM, said:

Yes sir, I did name them at the very end, but I'll put them here too.
Evans Blue - Dear Lucid Our Time is Right now.
Anberlin - Fin
Death Cab for Cutie - Brothers on a Hotel Bed.

And good point Haya about the rotation. I agree, that's the major outcome especially with sorcs. And I've been dying for better opponents unfortunately on my server, the asmo's that are good, are so hard to find, because they have to babysit their AP (I don't blame them) because they never have any inner forts to shove AP in their pockets and stay low ranks :/

Yea Elemental Ward is nice, but in my case I'm AT and Supp hybrid, so there's no room :/ I still see enough MR clerics and chanters to justify Supp of Focus over Elem Ward. Especially in dreg, because my team is dual sorc Me/Kazuko, any MR's I take, he's PvE build for our team's DPS and DPS in PvP while I usually am on CC duty.

I'm AT builded like yourself, Basically we have the exact same build however i have Elementalward on top of it.

It seems you miss 1 stigma or did i fail when looking at your stigma build
Because basically we have both all the same stigmas and i have elementalward aswell

It helps alot, because i dont have 40 elite and lakhane like you so my Mres is kinda low arround 1313 unbuffed and arround 1600 when buffed so thats nice to fight some classes and resist like ankle snares, sleep arrows, and stuff... some rangers stack M.acc now tho.. or they have a 2nd m.acc set because of this

And yeah i agree its hard to find decent opponents that would give you a nice battle
Imo you could add some duels with people you know are really good

A video with dueling, pvp, dredgions in it is usually fun because you can see how the player fights in different situation ^^ and with your rotation it would be alot of fun i guess because i havent seen many elyos play like this basically on telemachus its just me, yagamy and zuri atm that know these rotations so imagine 3 players on whole server and on our asmo side there is none that knows these advanced rotation so they all end up CC'd, stone-skin still on , debuffs silence damage rotation and dead kinda boring

But we have Perento that looks like a server with skilled asmodians because asmodians from all over europe ran off to that server since is asmo dominated
What about NA? is there any asmodian dominated server on NA?

and thanks for the songs

[whatisthis]

I just wanted to post this:

Menaace, on 20 November 2010 - 04:16 PM, said:

I had MR in my elite 40 until I decided to take it out in 2.0. MR sorcs don't work anymore at 2.0 against other PvP sorcs, just PvE build. Defensively the only thing it helped me with was ankle snares and sleep arrows, and still didn't resist but maybe 1/3 the time with all MR socketted, and sorcs could still destroy me if they threw up MBoost/Supp. Offensively I tested this on Kaz's MR set, and there were no resists with my Supp in multiple duals, and 1 out of 20 with MBoost I at my MAcc...

If you lose vs another sorc 1v1 when you have MR on, you would have lost no matter what armor you were wearing. It doesn't matter if they use SoF or not.

We can duel to test this out if you want. Remember the time we dueled, I purposefully let you cc me first, and you still lost gave up? That's the power of MR.

[Menaace]

囧rz, on 21 November 2010 - 08:52 PM, said:

I just wanted to post this:



If you lose vs another sorc 1v1 when you have MR on, you would have lost no matter what armor you were wearing. It doesn't matter if they use SoF or not.

We can duel to test this out if you want. Remember the time we dueled, I purposefully let you cc me first, and you still lost gave up? That's the power of MR.

Exactly, because sorc damage is only MBoost vs their Elem Resist. And that doesn't change with gear. And even so, 1 elemental resist more is one less point of damage usually...

You are right sir. And I remember that, but I also was only 54 at the time and didn't have MBoost or SoF either. Would be nice to test now. It is powerful, I guess I didn't mean to say it wasn't, I remember the power of it.
IMO, it's more powerful against rangers/glad/cleric cc's instead of relying on it for resists against sorcs/sm's. Kaz and I tested this out, and with SoF I didn't get resists. I wanna try it with yours though

[Urahara Kisuke]

Nice video+rotations.....
The others are kinda weak...but this isnt something minus for the sorc performance.We can see if he knows what to do or not.One friend said that you cant put unpotable silence when you have a sorc in CC mode.....and thats wrong,even if he decides to take his shield off you can put him in silence(as 3rd) if you are fast enough with good ping:)