[Hummingbird]

[shemals]

enchanting can be very frustrating.

i dont know about the sorc stuff. but the 55 eternal ap bow is better than my bow with just 2+.

why not just get a good 55 book as fuse "secondary" and use it with the 2+ till you get money to try again? i think together it will be better than your current weapon.

rng is a nyerk...i hate these kind of stories

[Masquarade]

SethGod, on 12 June 2011 - 02:59 PM, said:

WTF?... u said it like a bad thing to use supps, but chance will actually get a bit higher (at least, in theory) so just gtfo, lolretard... calling me a retard... /priceless

hey noob, the lolretard own you anytime, wana try me? you will go cry in a corner like 99% of the people i go duel 1 v 1 under divine, dont mess with me, especialy after what i have seen from your gameplay.


On subject haya, you quitted, i understand i would have done the same too ( almost wanted to after the mass fail socketing MR stones), but still lesser supplement was a waste, as for all those graphs people have post here with 1000 test, nobody gave the source, could be private server or whatever, for me, i still think sagara was right, best way to +10 your weap is 85 to 87 without supp, most of the people i know did like this.

And by best way, i mean the CHEAPER WAY to do it, and lesser supplement clearly shows they worth nyerk 3kk for 5%? better get a stone higher lvl , that is, how i think.

and wathever you may say, i posted my stones from 83 to 89 without supp and made +10 2 times. ( and i wasnt especially lucky)

As for setys noob, only Desimp can call me lolretard, since he deserved it, you want to call me like this? you better try me first, and take care, because if you fail, you really gona be mad at my /laugh emotion (even though they changed it in 2.5) since you will be the dead corpse. So my guess will be that you are scared to lose against me, and wont accept any 1v1
a pve hero calling me lolretard /priceless

[SethGod]

Masquarade, on 13 June 2011 - 05:31 AM, said:

hey noob, the lolretard own you anytime, wana try me? you will go cry in a corner like 99% of the people i go duel 1 v 1 under divine, dont mess with me, especialy after what i have seen from your gameplay.


On subject haya, you quitted, i understand i would have done the same too ( almost wanted to after the mass fail socketing MR stones), but still lesser supplement was a waste, as for all those graphs people have post here with 1000 test, nobody gave the source, could be private server or whatever, for me, i still think sagara was right, best way to +10 your weap is 85 to 87 without supp, most of the people i know did like this.

And by best way, i mean the CHEAPER WAY to do it, and lesser supplement clearly shows they worth nyerk 3kk for 5%? better get a stone higher lvl , that is, how i think.

and wathever you may say, i posted my stones from 83 to 89 without supp and made +10 2 times. ( and i wasnt especially lucky)

As for setys noob, only Desimp can call me lolretard, since he deserved it, you want to call me like this? you better try me first, and take care, because if you fail, you really gona be mad at my /laugh emotion (even though they changed it in 2.5) since you will be the dead corpse. So my guess will be that you are scared to lose against me, and wont accept any 1v1
a pve hero calling me lolretard /priceless

Hmm what gave u that impression? Bring it on man! I'll duel you, dw And ok let's cut it out with the personal insults... I'm no longer a .. "pve hero" you'll see soon enough lol...

Sry for the offtopic (again) and Haya come back! U can own ppl with GG orb

[p4n0]

Setys GREW UP, care little cleric !!

[ninjarabbi]

sorry for the double gank setys man, tbh I saw you there for the third time and was 4/5, but decided against it. Usually leave people alone after one time.

[aga123]

shemals, on 12 June 2011 - 11:53 PM, said:

i dont know about the sorc stuff. but the 55 eternal ap bow is better than my bow with just 2+.

No, a +0 eternal AP bow is miles better then your bow, even if it was +30. The additional tool tip damage you'll get from the eternal AP bow will far outweigh the additional attack you have from enchanting. And considering the vast majority of a rangers damage (especially in PvP) comes from skills rather then auto attacks it'll make even more of a difference.

[Oriihime]

L80 +1
L80 +2
L80 +1
L80 +2
L80 +3
L82 +4
L82 +5
L86 +4
L86 +3


....ok

[Hayabusa]

Masquarade, on 13 June 2011 - 05:31 AM, said:

but still lesser supplement was a waste

no.

kinah for extra chance of succeeding is never a waste.

Masquarade, on 13 June 2011 - 05:31 AM, said:

best way to +10 your weap is 85 to 87 without supp, most of the people i know did like this.

That doesnt prove nyerk.
Most people I know used 88-90's with lesser supplements and did it with 10-12 stones.

It's all luck in the end.
You can fail with high stone, you can fail with low stone and you can succeed with both.

Masquarade, on 13 June 2011 - 05:31 AM, said:

And by best way, i mean the CHEAPER WAY to do it, and lesser supplement clearly shows they worth nyerk 3kk for 5%? better get a stone higher lvl , that is, how i think.

Your thinking is wrong because lesser supplements aren't expensive and for that extra chance it's not bad.
I wouldn't pay more than 3kk that's why lesser supps are nice to use.

In the end it's just RNG and nothing else.

[p4n0]

Smart ppl had some stones in stash which they bought b4 the patch came !!!

[*Mika*]

Lesser supplements is +5% success?

[Hayabusa]

p4n0, on 14 June 2011 - 02:55 AM, said:

Smart ppl had some stones in stash which they bought b4 the patch came !!!

I did.. up to 400million in stones from before the patch. They got me to +4 highest.
Then later intotal spend 800mill for +2

[Oriihime]

Back to +4 with L83! Magical stones L83

[MagikMout]

Ive got 7xL85 7xL86 3xL87 and some L89/90, not sure how many.

Im defo gonna "waste" kinah on supps.

If I dont get +10 with the stones I have, I will just d/e the freaking book and carry on with mira.

Screw PVEing for moar fails, screw RNG.

[dazrulez]

55 Eternal Chest (always went to +1 with random low stone):
L80*15
L84*3
L86*2

Highest: +5
End Result: +1

Then i looked at this topic with the graphs and i continued:

L88 +2
L90 +3
L90 +4
L90 +3
L88 +4
L90 +5
L90 +6
L90 +7
L90 +8
L89 +7
L89 +8
L91 +9
L91 +10

2x fails when using higher level stones, no supplements used

55 Eternal Gloves
Random low stones to +1
L88 +2
L88 +1
L90 +2
L90 +3
L90 +4
L91 +3
L90 +4
L90 +5
L89 +6
L90 +7
L90 +8
L90 +9
L90 +10

2x fails again only, no supplements used

Haya, RnG hates you

~Daz

[Masquarade]

supp sux

[*Mika*]

55 eternal chest finished finally -.-

L55 +1
L66 +2
L69 +3
L84 +4
L84 +5
L87 +4
L87 +5
L87 +6
L87 +5
L89 +4
L87 +5
L88 +6
L88 +7
L88 +8
L88 +9
L88 + lesser supply +8
L88 + lesser supply +9
L89 + lesser supply +8
L88 + lesser supply +9
L90 + lesser supply +10

[Patratel]

*Mika*, on 21 June 2011 - 09:18 AM, said:

55 eternal chest finished finally -.-

L55 +1
L66 +2
L69 +3
L84 +4
L84 +5
L87 +4
L87 +5
L87 +6
L87 +5
L89 +4
L87 +5
L88 +6
L88 +7
L88 +8
L88 +9
L88 + lesser supply +8
L88 + lesser supply +9
L89 + lesser supply +8
L88 + lesser supply +9
L90 + lesser supply +10

GZ, cookie!

[Masquarade]

lol at 8 9 8 9 89 8 98989898989

[Qber]

Masquarade, on 21 June 2011 - 12:07 PM, said:

lol at 8 9 8 9 89 8 98989898989

She was lucky!

So far I have spent around 450mil on my bow. Got it to +5, than 6x l90 stones to get it to +0, and than some 50-80 stones to get back to +3, than 87 for +4, 87 for +3, 85x2 till +1 rinse and repeat few times... than back to +3 with some crap stones, another 87 for +4 and finally 92 with supp for +5... out of kinah and patience for now D: