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#1 User is offline   SeismoGraf 

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 03:00 AM

Lately I heard some rangers say, that high accuracy would increase the chance to get a higher value in the bow's attack value range. Never heard about something like that, so I was sceptical and decided to do a small test. Fifty non-critical auto-attack hits with 778 Acc, and then fifty with 978 Acc (boosted via the skill "Aiming", which gives +200 Acc).

Version: Aion 2.1.0.5
Player: L50 Ranger with just weapon equipped
Weapon: L10 Guardian's Bow, (52-71 attack value range)
Target: Training Dummy in Sanctum

  • 50 Hits with 778 Accuracy: 74.88 average damage
  • 50 Hits with 978 Accuracy: 74.28 average damage


Ok, this small test proves nothing.

By the way: while stats like e.g. HP are straight-forward, I have no idea how to socket and balance the offensive stats (accuracy, attack, crit) for my chars. It certainly also depends on the equipped weapon and the stigmas used. So much outdated, incomplete and contradicting material on the web... - trustworthy formulas would be a great help in finding out the optimal setup for one's goals.
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 05:39 AM

the outcome of that test..doesnt really make sense :s
why is it less!
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Posted 29 January 2011 - 12:03 AM

View PostHummingbird, on 28 January 2011 - 05:39 AM, said:

the outcome of that test..doesnt really make sense :s
why is it less!


The difference is small (0.8%), considering the small amount of hits done. If accuracy really has no effect on weapon damage rolls, what I guess is true, either number could be higher (or coincidentally exactly the same). Maybe someone wants to do 10'000 hits for the sake of mythbusting.

PS: I forgot to remove a static buff on attack in above tests, so the numbers should have been a bit lower overall.
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Posted 29 January 2011 - 09:54 AM

will test this on maybe later(some days to get accu stones) on poleGlad. his dmgRange is higher and i wanted to do that anyways since this thing came up in some old pre1,9 threads, too.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:25 PM

using Kings Damage Meter. Hitting testDummies in inigiTown till 200k total damage reached

Setup:
Set-A = BeshSet+vorpalSpear Accuracy 2131 / critStrike 307 / Attack 541 = 304dps/peak407/1217biggestHit
Set-B = Anuhart/MalikaParts Accuracy 2579 / critStrike 312 / Attack 525 = 293dps/peak445/1216biggestHit
Set-B +3% AnuhartMalikaParts Accuracy2579 / critStrike312 / Attack525 = 301dps*/458peak*/1216biggestHit


*Set-B has 3% less Atk but 0,5% more crit
weirdly i have almsot the same annoying results...dps is much lower even if i add +3% to the result AND let the +0,5%crit(which should raise result!) untouched. Very weird. Maybe the higher Accuracy really raises the Cahnces for maxDMGhits, but the more highDMGhits u do, the less crits u hit? Would be truly annoying...


But the peakHit gone much higher! But does it rly matter when DPS is getting lowered???????
The Accuracy got raised by ~17% - peak raised ~12% so there is not a transparent/direct Relationship



to get rid of the confusion i will make another Test with same attack +1-.
if anyone feels like it and is an elyos on perento: send me free accu22s lol
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 08:32 PM

thats just stupid...
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Posted 05 February 2011 - 04:28 AM

need 2 asmos for further testing....
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Posted 05 February 2011 - 02:20 PM

Pretty interesting test, StingerX. Looking forward to the results. Can't help you sadly, since I'm asmo

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Posted 05 February 2011 - 10:56 PM

What exactly do you guys mean with "peak"?

DPS means damage per second/damage over time, biggest hit means highest damage hit (crit? non-crit?), but what does peak mean? The momentarily highest dps in a longer dps test? If accuracy causes peaks to increase while keeping the overall dps the same it would mean that it also reduces the dps during a certain period of the test because otherwise it would not be the same overall dps compared to usual manastone setups.
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Posted 06 February 2011 - 02:34 AM

View PostKyoai, on 05 February 2011 - 10:56 PM, said:

What exactly do you guys mean with "peak"?

DPS means damage per second/damage over time, biggest hit means highest damage hit (crit? non-crit?), but what does peak mean? The momentarily highest dps in a longer dps test? If accuracy causes peaks to increase while keeping the overall dps the same it would mean that it also reduces the dps during a certain period of the test because otherwise it would not be the same overall dps compared to usual manastone setups.


thats exactly whats so weird. same dps at higher Peak? I think its a Result of hitting the nyerking LvL1 Dummies.
no Accu necessary to hit them. I need something to hit on with actual Evasion/Parry/Blockstats etc.


I see only 3 Options to get real good Results:

1. hitting a Gelkmaros Gate Solo - that would require Guarding....too much trouble.
2. Having an Alliance Gaurding me while i solo Omega....too much trouble.
3. 1xRandom LVL55 Asmo + 1xPriestAsmo healing the Random while i hit the Random for 2x30Mins!
-> Dueling is just too short to get good results and needs restarting the duel every bunch of Minutes.
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Posted 06 February 2011 - 03:05 AM

View PostStingerX, on 06 February 2011 - 02:34 AM, said:

3. 1xRandom LVL55 Asmo + 1xPriestAsmo healing the Random while i hit the Random for 2x30Mins!
-> Dueling is just too short to get good results and needs restarting the duel every bunch of Minutes.


Oh yea, I misunderstood that. Well, still can't help, since I'm on another server

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 07:54 AM

View PostStingerX, on 06 February 2011 - 02:34 AM, said:

I see only 3 Options to get real good Results:

Have an attack class player duell a cleric while the cleric is only healing himself (duno which one you want to be), it will take several minutes until the duell gets aborted due to timelimit.
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