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#1 User is offline   Grimstar 

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 09:54 AM

I got bored on my sorc, so i started making a cleric, but i lvld so quick that i simply outlvld my gear, so atm i'm stuck in dredgion with crap gear. (alot of grind in aion, ye right lol)

My goal was to save AP (got 170k ap in items + 35k on char), and go directly for the lv 40 ap set, starting with my chest piece.
I dont have trouble healing in instances, but somehow i feel like a nub on my cleric in dredgion, while i have every member of my grp keybound + got group list in the middle of my screen to click names fast if needed.
But when our sm/sorc gets bursted i dont have any time to heal, cause i use flash/splendor of recovery, and light of recovery, but by the time i'm casting healing light, the cloth user usually ends up death. (even with sage's wisdom)

Can u give me any hints on how to keep people alive when they get bursted? I've got crap gear atm, so getting better gear is a must, but there has to be some things i could use, to keep my group longer alive..

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 06:45 PM

Besides somehow getting Healing Boost (not that you really have that option at your level), I don't know how getting better armor could make you a better healer when the issue is that others are dying. I think your problem is that you are low level, and am guessing that that is what's holding you back.

Sometimes there's just not much you can do about Sorc's dying a terrible death. They're squishy, all you can do is try. It helps if they know what they're doing also so they don't always just flop over without a fight. The same goes for any other class, its just more difficult when its a low level/undergeared/poorly talented Sorcerer.

You should have Blessed Shield by now, and it's instant cast, so remember to use that when you need to seriously put out some big heals. That might make up the difference between a group member eating it or not.

I've heard good things about the level 40 AP set, so you may be on the right track with that.
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 10:30 AM

Pre-heal. You know the sorc/SM will be taking craptons of damage, so start casting radiant cure before he takes any damage and follow with flash if needed. Ofc most of the time he will still die if properly focused, but you should always be proactive instead of reactive. You say you have all your group members keybound, so you could try keeping the enemy sorc/ranger/whatever-their-highest-burst-class is on target so you can see who he is going for and start healing when you see him casting something.

Hurrrr hope that makes sense, I'm tired.
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 11:10 AM

Alot depends on the calibar of your team, the better they are, the easier your job is.

Dont beat your self up, its not always the clerics fault.
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Posted 23 February 2011 - 09:33 AM

If you are healing spec and have time before the PvP starts try putting Splendor of Rebirth on the clothie, adding a little extra pdef with a decent HoT effect will help some. Another thing if your elyos is to hit blessed shield and use Yustiel's Light (the AoE heal with a group 10 second HoT). If your an asmo you can try Marchutan's Light or something like that to provide a shield before the fight starts (without blessed shield since I don't think it would increase the shield like it does the HoT from Yustiel's). While they will not keep them alive all the time, the extra HP and defense they provide can help out and can hopefully keep someone alive long enough to get off some quick heals. Of course all that should be done before you engage, taking 3 seconds to cast Yustiel's once the fight starts when the sorc is being focused probably isn't going to work out too well.

Of course if the sorc just stands there, you're not going to be able to outheal a 6 person focus fire on them. Hopefully the sorcs will kite some to help you out. Also keep a close eye on your target, most sorcs hit their leap when they get low so you need to make sure they are targeted before you hit flash (sometimes they'll still leap out of it if you both react at about the same time, but don't panic and try to get their HP up with quick casts when that happens).
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Posted 26 March 2011 - 05:38 AM

Another thing I use to do is, after using the HOT spells and Flash of Recovery to heal the beggining of the burst, dispell. Normally, rangers, sorcs and SMs start by silencing their target. If you just try to heal a defenseless sorc or SM, it would be nearly impossible, but if you dispell the silence, they can blink, use stone skin, boon of iron clad, and other survival skills. I've noticed that if I dispell, is much easier to heal them, sometimes better than casting a hp healing spell.

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 07:04 PM

Only bodyguard can save a cloth being bursted, your heals will just buy him some time.
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Posted 30 March 2011 - 05:45 AM

You can save the clothie being bursted tho, as long u have istant heal ready, benevolence + devotion + blessed shield you can throw istant heal for over 5k dmg

Ofc that depends from many stuffs, target gears, enemies gears, eventual godstones proc, blahblah rng :sparkles:
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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:20 AM

I've got a lvl50 cleric and in dredgion I smite people like a bawse.
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 06:47 PM

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 04:48 AM

and get cc

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:33 AM

View PostGrimstar, on 10 February 2011 - 09:54 AM, said:

I got bored on my sorc, so i started making a cleric, but i lvld so quick that i simply outlvld my gear, so atm i'm stuck in dredgion with crap gear. (alot of grind in aion, ye right lol)

My goal was to save AP (got 170k ap in items + 35k on char), and go directly for the lv 40 ap set, starting with my chest piece.
I dont have trouble healing in instances, but somehow i feel like a nub on my cleric in dredgion, while i have every member of my grp keybound + got group list in the middle of my screen to click names fast if needed.
But when our sm/sorc gets bursted i dont have any time to heal, cause i use flash/splendor of recovery, and light of recovery, but by the time i'm casting healing light, the cloth user usually ends up death. (even with sage's wisdom)

Can u give me any hints on how to keep people alive when they get bursted? I've got crap gear atm, so getting better gear is a must, but there has to be some things i could use, to keep my group longer alive..

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My first reaction looking at your legion name (Pandemic) was "Why the hell do you care about healing? You only need training tips, as your legion is in the top trainers list. Neither gear nor brains nor skills."

But assuming you are one of the "ethical guys out there" and for lvl 50 skills, what worked for me:

1)Try to get the TL jewel set as it has awsome def stats for a 50 healer and most ppl already have these jewels or better so dropping them will most probably result to the one say "need" without further roll

2)Cast scroll and run speed scroll is a must for entire 40 min of ddg

3)As soon as melee starts to move to attack, cast the splendor of rebirth on your cloth or the target you assume will be nr1 target

4)Stay a bit back to realize where the battle is headed and avoid being cced/killed in a snap (around 25m from your first melee)

5)Have your 2 dispels bound in an ultra fast key (i use 3 on naga for a macro casting both dispels)

6)Always first dispel target (assuming a debuff exists) and then use continuously 1sec heal, 2 sec heal, 1sec heal, 2 sec heal loop. These must ofc be also bound in ultra fast keys (i use a bound on left hand for these as they cant be used while moving unlike the dispels). In between heals, dispel this target if needed. if you think you are in the middle of the battle and will not cost the life of a person not healed for 2 sec, use sage's wisdom and then fill up anyone's hp with 1,2sec heals + the aoe 3sec heal. If you have used it and is on cd use other with long cd such as the 3sec (1k single target heal+aoe heal over time skill) (i dont recall skill names)

7)Split your keybounds like a said above. Meaning you need to be able to use both mouse and keyboard in parallel without conflict. e.g. run (left hand keys) while dispelling (right hand key). run (left) while rooting (right). Single target heal (left) and dispelling (right)

8)Have all possible pots available (abyss, fine mp/hp), even recovery crystals but use them only at the last 5 min of ddg if needed otherwise you loose the double pot potential (you cant use abyss pots for 30 min instead of 5)

9)If you are being focused fired, run like hell and dispell, heal yourself, pot, kite them, root/blind them then return to your group for an aoe heal or dispell, then run again back and forth

10)Don't just run to kite melee, run jumping most of the time.

11)Tell your chanter to have a macro for ressing ppl saying to the grp and whisper to the target who and when he is ressing

12)Have with you also res stones (ap ones) for really bad situations where ressing fast is absolutely needed for your grp and will make a difference

13)Be aware that flash of recovery is a bit buggy. I prefer using the 1sec or 2sec +dispell skills when hp drops fast and is already at 30% than flash. Use it when you think that there are very good chances for the target to "get the heal"

14)Use your skills from worst to best. Meaning don't waste your flash of recovery or ripple of purification fast. But ofc use without 2nd thought the RippleOP when the grp has a bad debuff and several ppl have low hp.

15)For dispelling fear use splendor of purification and make sure not to waste it fast when the other grp has sm

16)Charge your dp 30 min before ddg so you get to use at least 2 dp skills within ddg with a jelly. Use first acquitall as it has 30min cd and you may end up using it twice in ddg (if you have enough dp)


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Posted 17 April 2011 - 05:02 AM

View PostPerclo, on 14 April 2011 - 04:33 AM, said:

14)Use your skills from worst to best. Meaning don't waste your flash of recovery or ripple of purification fast. But ofc use without 2nd thought the RippleOP when the grp has a bad debuff and several ppl have low hp.


I dont agree on this tbh, do you think enemies dps will start by using first "worst" skills? Of course not they will try to burst you down by using all their best skills/cd at the start of the fight, so why the nyerk keeping best heals for the end of the fight :| (when most likely some peeps are dead already, and have skills cd?) and tbh, if its needed to win the fight and keep alive an important member of the group, i do use ripple to heal 1 - 2 targets (that ALWAYS depends from the situation and who are your enemies, gears etc etc :P you need a bit of brain to use heals..)
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Posted 17 April 2011 - 01:44 PM

View Post*Mika*, on 17 April 2011 - 05:02 AM, said:

I dont agree on this tbh, do you think enemies dps will start by using first "worst" skills? Of course not they will try to burst you down by using all their best skills/cd at the start of the fight, so why the nyerk keeping best heals for the end of the fight :| (when most likely some peeps are dead already, and have skills cd?) and tbh, if its needed to win the fight and keep alive an important member of the group, i do use ripple to heal 1 - 2 targets (that ALWAYS depends from the situation and who are your enemies, gears etc etc :P you need a bit of brain to use heals..)


Everyone has his playstyle but what i mean on that to be more detailed is that i will not use flash for example as soon as i see someone of the main targets is hit (first attack). I will use 1 sec heal followed by 2 sec heal etc with dispells. I will use flash when i see the dps is too high and hp of the target is at 50% or a bit lower inbetween the 1-2 sec heals.

But ofc it is also related to the situation. For example when i see dropping to 50% instantly (at once) ofc i will use flash. But usually there is some lower damage for the first like 5-6 seconds of the battle followed by the real burst

I am saving my best heals for the "oshii" situations or when i see them coming very very shortly. But i will not waste them for nothing. Same applies to my dp skills
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