[Mostly]

The whole lower/upper already is in balaur/asmo hands and now it would be fancy if you could also take core which is the last fort Elyos got.

Can't wait for the drama on Ely side. All those "gtfo, your gear is not gg enough!" elitists suddenly crying help from their "brothers" is surprisingly entertaining

[Xecty's]

it wouldn't hurt if you get for few days xD

when's last time i've done splinter ? can't remember =p

[Mostly]

Thanks! The drama is excellent.

Even though I wish I understood half of it. Seems our servers greeks lost all their ability to speak english.

EDIT: Now I learned that they want to f*** my 62 year old mom.

EDIT 2: Grats Asmos!

[Deathjam]

Mostly, on 14 May 2011 - 02:19 PM, said:

Thanks! The drama is excellent.

Even though I wish I understood half of it. Seems our servers greeks lost all their ability to speak english.

EDIT: Now I learned that they want to f*** my 62 year old mom.

EDIT 2: Grats Asmos!

Sounds like fun. Should have taken a screenshot.

[Wolfen]

Now that asmos got the whole upper abyss i can resub, at least i won't see them crying on the forum for some boring/useless/carebear instances.

Gz asmos, hope you keep them, even in 2.5.

[Evilbadguy]

too bad they get reseted after patch to Balaur.


...and i am not even being sarcastic here.

[Xecty's]

no master carved for you tonight xD

[Lurch]

and probably no extendable weapons for you ever :p

[user13]

Mostly, on 14 May 2011 - 01:15 PM, said:

The whole lower/upper already is in balaur/asmo hands and now it would be fancy if you could also take core which is the last fort Elyos got.

Can't wait for the drama on Ely side. All those "gtfo, your gear is not gg enough!" elitists suddenly crying help from their "brothers" is surprisingly entertaining

Exactly what does this mean? You want asmos to win your faction because? You think with emotions? Your gear isnt good enough to join the legions? Mate I created a char with extendable weapon in three months. I bet I could join any legion right now. Especially when I hear them spamming their recruit messages all the time.

Them asking their brothers for assistance? As an elyos they shouldnt even ask for your assistance. If you hadn't noticed this game is elyos vs asmos. You are definetly trying to pull the elyos in the nyerkhole you live in. "Can't wait for the drama on elyos got". If you like soap opera Im sure there are some fine shows in your country.

Aside from OP. I have detected some sort of strange grudge in some elyos legion. Lets name them: Conclave, Misanthrophy. What's up with these legions? Big legion that doesn't seem to have grugdes but who don't siege at all: Section IX. This I understand, you are neutral, you want to pve and group pvp with your own people. But why enter a fortress instance for ap items if you dont bother to do anything about the defending of it, or why not defend it for new players or perhaps your alts? I know you guys are cooler than those other two legions I mentioned. They got their ap gear and now they cling on nothing on why elyos shouldn't have active abyss presence. I haven't seen them siege once with the rest. Well I saw once Conclave using an abyss situation to conquer a fort of their own. So basicly they used other elyos to get a stack of medals of their own. And their best argument Ive heard is EA doesn't share medals? Btw EA seems to be sharing theirs very well. Don't come up with bullnyerk now please. Instead they come here with these rants of how they will enjoy elyos drama. They aren't helpful on their own faction at all. I would right now move them to their own little server, where they can grow balls, because on Telemachus their as good as nothing.

And to totally torpedo all you are going to respond. EA had agreement with asmos for even two inner forts when the abyss siege participants were imbalanced. Don't use that argument either. What I want is to know what the nyerk is up with these people. Is it the fact that everyone was happy under Boon control and Existence and after both of the legions left they weren't happy of who gained the 'power' aka EA aka Democratic collective where every legion is welcomed to have a word and share of medals.

Actually now that I think of it, you don't even care for sensibilty. You just wanna run around like nyerks because you simply can. Good times. Good game. BB.

Rocket scientist don't play Aion.

[Evilbadguy]

user13, on 17 May 2011 - 06:40 AM, said:

And to totally torpedo all you are going to respond. EA had agreement with asmos for even two inner forts when the abyss siege participants were imbalanced. Don't use that argument either. What I want is to know what the nyerk is up with these people. Is it the fact that everyone was happy under Boon control and Existence and after both of the legions left they weren't happy of who gained the 'power' aka EA aka Democratic collective where every legion is welcomed to have a word and share of medals.

hello Unknown person on the Internet.
I am Relinquished. Current BG of Misanthropy and former Officer of Boon Control.
I was there when the Asmo faction of TL conquered everthing in the abyss.
I was there when the Elyos faction decided to gather up and make an effort to push them back and conquer forts.
I was there when the First Elyos Alliance was formed out of pure neccesity.
I was there sieging every single day. Twice. Starting 1h+ before siege started.
I was there at Transformer rank, loosing massive ap with every death, to help the faction gain some influence in the abyss.
I was there when the Elyos conquered the Upper Abyss.
I was there when the Elyos conquered first Divine fort. I was the person activating the artifacts around core.
I was there AFKing at hellfire for hours while the rest of the Elyos pveed their way to abyss gear.
I was there when first the proposal was made to make an arrangment with the Asmos so they could make a comeback. Which they declined and did make a short comeback on their own (bravo to them).
I was there when Boon Control and eXistence decided there was no more point in playing a one-sided game.
I was there when the former members of the EA decided they wanted to keep the current situation as it was and leave it to a dying Asmo faction to fix the broken server we had left.

I am the person who decided to make the effort to help his asmo friends (YES, friends!) try to and fix something since our beloved EA had no intention to do so. I saw every supposed "deal" with the asmo being treated with constant "/3 <Recruit Alliance> Kill Asmo at HF" on the same day the "deals" where made. I saw medal hungry TL elyos and CS elyos with a grudge for being the underdog faction for a while on their server, not wanting to give the Asmo a break.
Thats who i am and thats what my deal is.








...and you are?

[_cLicK-BooM_]

user13, on 17 May 2011 - 06:40 AM, said:

Exactly what does this mean? You want asmos to win your faction because? You think with emotions? Your gear isnt good enough to join the legions? Mate I created a char with extendable weapon in three months. I bet I could join any legion right now. Especially when I hear them spamming their recruit messages all the time.

Them asking their brothers for assistance? As an elyos they shouldnt even ask for your assistance. If you hadn't noticed this game is elyos vs asmos. You are definetly trying to pull the elyos in the nyerkhole you live in. "Can't wait for the drama on elyos got". If you like soap opera Im sure there are some fine shows in your country.

Aside from OP. I have detected some sort of strange grudge in some elyos legion. Lets name them: Conclave, Misanthrophy. What's up with these legions? Big legion that doesn't seem to have grugdes but who don't siege at all: Section IX. This I understand, you are neutral, you want to pve and group pvp with your own people. But why enter a fortress instance for ap items if you dont bother to do anything about the defending of it, or why not defend it for new players or perhaps your alts? I know you guys are cooler than those other two legions I mentioned. They got their ap gear and now they cling on nothing on why elyos shouldn't have active abyss presence. I haven't seen them siege once with the rest. Well I saw once Conclave using an abyss situation to conquer a fort of their own. So basicly they used other elyos to get a stack of medals of their own. And their best argument Ive heard is EA doesn't share medals? Btw EA seems to be sharing theirs very well. Don't come up with bullnyerk now please. Instead they come here with these rants of how they will enjoy elyos drama. They aren't helpful on their own faction at all. I would right now move them to their own little server, where they can grow balls, because on Telemachus their as good as nothing.

And to totally torpedo all you are going to respond. EA had agreement with asmos for even two inner forts when the abyss siege participants were imbalanced. Don't use that argument either. What I want is to know what the nyerk is up with these people. Is it the fact that everyone was happy under Boon control and Existence and after both of the legions left they weren't happy of who gained the 'power' aka EA aka Democratic collective where every legion is welcomed to have a word and share of medals.

Actually now that I think of it, you don't even care for sensibilty. You just wanna run around like nyerks because you simply can. Good times. Good game. BB.

Rocket scientist don't play Aion.

Yawn....boooring!

[Zeozeo]

_cLicK-BooM_, on 18 May 2011 - 07:59 AM, said:

Yawn....boooring!

But very true.

[Evilbadguy]

Zeozeo, on 19 May 2011 - 12:30 AM, said:

But very true.

oh come on Zeo you where there too! Was it fun afking HF or kicking Asmo while they where down?
we kinda killed any competition for a time and you know that!
Besides, when you guys allow ppl from within the EF to spam lfg with things like "gz noob elyos, you dont help in sieges" what exactly do you expect?
Wouldnt you also prefer to have dredgion matches where the asmos dont instatrain you because they have no chance to win at all in pvp? Among other things.

[Zeozeo]

Evilbadguy, on 19 May 2011 - 02:00 AM, said:

oh come on Zeo you where there too! Was it fun afking HF or kicking Asmo while they where down?
we kinda killed any competition for a time and you know that!
Besides, when you guys allow ppl from within the EF to spam lfg with things like "gz noob elyos, you dont help in sieges" what exactly do you expect?
Wouldnt you also prefer to have dredgion matches where the asmos dont instatrain you because they have no chance to win at all in pvp? Among other things.

Yes, I was there to. Yes i didn't like sitting on HF night after night with no asmos. Wasn't just a cpl of weeks of it, it last during certain periods mths. All I'm saying is that EF have been an easy target for people to take pot shots at. I fully agree that Boon and Exi, who I worked alongside the previous year did the right thing in leaving tele/stopping siege. Me having a 'go' at Elyos for not helping won't help either. Just seems a one way street. People can say whatever they like about EF with impunity but any reaction against abusers is met with 'told you so' or other reason to club them.

- EF have done fine since Boon Exi left. 6 mths of being in control of the abyss since Boon/Exi left is no accident. In those 6 mths, I feel asmos have been able to match us and sometimes beat us in numbers and tactics (since Xmas)I think EF deserve some credit for that.

-atm I think Elyos are split 3/4 different ways. This will allow asmos to control the abyss. We are behaving like pre-merge asmos. Strong but not united. Asmos are weaker but united right now. They will win if it remains that way and will deserve to win.

-EF have made attempts to uphold and help asmos get foothold in abyss (pre Xmas) They were very weak and Malothar has done a great job. We can't control all Eyos or even most Elyos, but our contacts with Malothar made small impacts that allowed an easier re-enty into the abyss for asmos. Now asmos have upper hand and Elyos are busy quarrelling/splitting/backbiting. We deserve nothing at present.

-As for spamming lfg, well all i know, we've not had a league of over 150 in last 6 mths, so it's not just a recent thing where some Elyos are content to not participate. People can do what they like. It their money.It their game, but it sometimes feels that we are as much an enemy to ourselves as the asmos are to us...

- I was one of the 70 defending Kyis when Aneu led zerg re took abyss around a yr and a half ago.

- I was there when we took Divine the first time

- I was there on HF with Afterlife many many times over the last year and a half.

- I was there in Veteron when we grouped up to re-take the abyss

-I was there alongside Boon/Exi during many siges.

-I have been there with EF 95% of siege since Boon/Exi left.


My honest opinion is this. When Boon and Exi were here, they were obviously the two strongest legions on Tele. People slagged them off but they were also easy to follow. Now they are gone, it makes it easier to NOT follow and it is easier to go 'nyerk em' whenever remaining sieging legions need help in abyss or say something on forums.

There are many many people who have joined Afterlife and other alliances that have done a great job even when it's tough. They are the less vocal players who deserve as much credit as us who form the alliances. Our strength will be with them and a future united Elyos faction. If we don't have that we will be rightfully dominated.

Regards

Zeo

[Evilbadguy]

I will agree for the most part with you Zeo apart from 2 major points.

1. There has never been a deal with the asmos. Not one that worked out as planned at least. There have been a lot of discusions about deals in the past, but if my info is correct (and trust me, it is) they always ended up in a dealbreaker. Either the asmos attacked something they were not supposed to, or the elyos did or whatever. So i cannot accept that any progress made by the Asmo in the abyss, has anything to do with help received from your end.

2. Boon/eXi never, EVER recruited from /lfg to fill in their ranks. The rest of the elyos legions participating back then did so. And since you know how the medals distribution system works in your democratic alliance, you know that the amount of medals given (back then) to all other legion was larger (in proportion) that what was realy deserved. Still, Boon/eXi didnt demand larger share ever, on any grounds that other legions were getting medals for pugs.
They only took the hit from lfg spammers, hating on Boon/eXi (mainly).
Also as you might know there was a very specific rule that no members were alowed to respond to lfg spamming.
So at some point eXi/Boon left.
Ofcourse, the rest of the elyos were more than capable of holding their own against the wrecked Asmo of TL. With one small difference.
They had no more an easy syphon for the hate of lfg. On the contrary, by having complete control over medal income of the server, they kept generating spam (not your fault, natural order of MMOs) without anything to control it.
At some point more and more ppl got annoyed. Beyond the point of "I will not siege with EA".

What was your response to that? You let your legion members (not afterlife specificaly ofc) run rampart badmouthing everyone and calling noobs the whole Elyos faction for not supporting them 100%. Which as you know, was NEVER a reality (remeber that Greathead guy and his constant anti-EA spam?)

So, if you think that the fact that the numbers of Elyos in the abyss lately has been diminishing due to lack of interest/carebearing only, i would suggest you reconsider.



sidenote: as the Asmo of this server have proven, Abyss domination =/= Winning the game. So plz lets get over that silly idea eventually.

[Wolfen]

Evilbadguy, on 19 May 2011 - 06:10 AM, said:

2. Boon/eXi never, EVER recruited from /lfg to fill in their ranks.

This is not totally true, back then in 1.5, they took randoms to attack/defend into the second alliance.
But they never counted those randoms in order to get medals from the "elyos alliance" (even because back then there was no elyos alliance).

[Zeozeo]

Evilbadguy, on 19 May 2011 - 06:10 AM, said:

I will agree for the most part with you Zeo apart from 2 major points.

1. There has never been a deal with the asmos. Not one that worked out as planned at least. There have been a lot of discusions about deals in the past, but if my info is correct (and trust me, it is) they always ended up in a dealbreaker. Either the asmos attacked something they were not supposed to, or the elyos did or whatever. So i cannot accept that any progress made by the Asmo in the abyss, has anything to do with help received from your end.

2. Boon/eXi never, EVER recruited from /lfg to fill in their ranks. The rest of the elyos legions participating back then did so. And since you know how the medals distribution system works in your democratic alliance, you know that the amount of medals given (back then) to all other legion was larger (in proportion) that what was realy deserved. Still, Boon/eXi didnt demand larger share ever, on any grounds that other legions were getting medals for pugs.
They only took the hit from lfg spammers, hating on Boon/eXi (mainly).
Also as you might know there was a very specific rule that no members were alowed to respond to lfg spamming.
So at some point eXi/Boon left.
Ofcourse, the rest of the elyos were more than capable of holding their own against the wrecked Asmo of TL. With one small difference.
They had no more an easy syphon for the hate of lfg. On the contrary, by having complete control over medal income of the server, they kept generating spam (not your fault, natural order of MMOs) without anything to control it.
At some point more and more ppl got annoyed. Beyond the point of "I will not siege with EA".

What was your response to that? You let your legion members (not afterlife specificaly ofc) run rampart badmouthing everyone and calling noobs the whole Elyos faction for not supporting them 100%. Which as you know, was NEVER a reality (remeber that Greathead guy and his constant anti-EA spam?)

So, if you think that the fact that the numbers of Elyos in the abyss lately has been diminishing due to lack of interest/carebearing only, i would suggest you reconsider.



sidenote: as the Asmo of this server have proven, Abyss domination =/= Winning the game. So plz lets get over that silly idea eventually.

Firstly with regards to filling alliances with non legion members. Boon and Exi were strong enough to always provide on avg 4-6 groups from their legion only. This made them a very quick and efficint force. I agree that medals distribution favoured other legions once a big alliance were formed. I even remember having to defend Boon and Exi from various people who slagged them off explaining that they they even abstained from taking ANY medals for several weeks. This was due to them having already stockpiled large amounts of medals from pre-alliance days when Boon/Exi generally controlled abyss forts.I never saw anything but a general support for the faction from both those legions. I'm sure that Boon even assisted Afterlife in it's very early days with medals, due to the help we gave Elyos in general abyss warfare. ie, we were generally quick, generally early and generally reliable whilst being led by Ricoh and Screenager.

Yes, I remember Greathead's spam only too well. Been several similar characters to him. Mostly their abuse was based on lack of real understanding and a general in-built need to whine. I know that is not the case with you and i know your intentions aren't remotely similar to those people. However, your understanding of daily sieges since christmas perhaps isn't as clear.I've said all along that asmos were strong enough from Decemeber onwards and sometimes think it a cross between a miracle, good efforts and luck that it's taken this long for asmos to have the abyss. I've been on vent for most of those sieges and many times we have stopped asmos by the skin of our teeth. Sometimes having a lot of fun in the process.

Your assertion that EF has played no part in helping asmos get a foothold is not true. I've been on vent during meetings with Malothar where we agreed to certain things that made life for them not so hard. eg Allowing them a middle fort generally unhindered by us for a few weeks. There was even an ocassion where asmos were taking Miren and we took a wide berth round Miren to avoid any possible interuption to them taking it. (This was on our way to taking Asteria) These kind of things didn't happen often, but they did happen, because we wanted them to have a foothold. We also stopped camping of shards while they were reforming with no fort as that would have stopped them before they started. Things fell apart from time to time and it didn't take long before they needed no help whatsoever. What I'm saying is that we could definitely have made their return to the abyss much harder. Not saying it was a handout, more like 'If we do this, we will have nobody to fight'.

Reasons for diminishing numbers come due to various reasons. Not just one or two. That isn't somethiong that is bothering me so much that right now. We are divided and aren't as much an opposition to asmos as we should.

regards

Zeo

[Evilbadguy]

Perhaps I dont have a full 100% view of current sieges, or for the past 2-3 months even.
I do know that the Asmos have been picking up pace though. I know they got their transformemrs up an running and that they managed to grasp the basics of artifact using etc etc.

By the skin of your teeth you say? I beg to differ. I have been from time to time in sieges just so that i would see the infamous Asmo zerg at work (following the pleads in lfg for help in X fort). I think it was only once that i realy got impressed by the ammount of Asmo and their xformers tbh.
But at those times i realy couldnt help but think, and please take this into great consideration, how would things be at that point (any given point where the elyos where being pushed back), if for any reason, Misanthropy, Conclave and the other 2-4 legions (which i will not name simply because I dont speak for them, nor influense them in any way) that i knew for a fact that denied sieging actively and joining the "rest of the Elyos" FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF KEEPING BALANCE (well, minor other issues as well, political and medal related) had decided to take part.

There where points at which i could count ~100 ppl agreeing with me that the server was in need for balance that did not join sieges in agreement with each other. You think they dont want to, or dont enjoy sieges, or getting the odd defence medal? Not realy.

So if there is any balance of forces at this point in time, even if you think the Elyos need to regroup and reunite, you have to take into account that there are some 15 xformers and 50-60 expirienced player sitting it out! Fully geared. With officers who know how to siege. In detail.


And then again i get that odd shout on lfg about being a noob that doesnt like elyos or that i am medal hungry or selfish and whatever.
Bottom line is, if the EF feels comfortable with AFKing HF for a few more months (if not forever) yeah we can do something about it. Everybody has their price and i can be very persuasive. You can have every single elyos in the EF. Easy. Then what?

And Zeo, new patch incomming. New ap items to get. The Ingison instance will not be enough to feed the AP need of ppl who like their AP gear up-to-date. Elyos will siege again. Be it in EF or not. Forts WILL be taken. have no doubt.



edit: so who is this "user13" scrub? I CALL YOU OUT DUDE!

[haka_pt]

user13, on 17 May 2011 - 06:40 AM, said:

Aside from OP. I have detected some sort of strange grudge in some elyos legion. Lets name them: Conclave, Misanthrophy. 1º What's up with these legions? Big legion that doesn't seem to have grugdes but who don't siege at all: Section IX. This I understand, you are neutral, you want to pve and group pvp with your own people. But why enter a fortress instance for ap items if you dont bother to do anything about the defending of it, or why not defend it for new players or perhaps your alts? I know you guys are cooler than those other two legions I mentioned. They got their ap gear and now they cling on nothing on why elyos shouldn't have active abyss presence. I haven't seen them siege once with the rest. Well I saw once Conclave using an abyss situation to conquer a fort of their own. 2º So basicly they used other elyos to get a stack of medals of their own. 3º And their best argument Ive heard is EA doesn't share medals? Btw EA seems to be sharing theirs very well. Don't come up with bullnyerk now please. Instead they come here with these rants of how they will enjoy elyos drama. They aren't helpful on their own faction at all. I would right now move them to their own little server, 4º where they can grow balls, because on Telemachus their as good as nothing. And to totally torpedo all you are going to respond. 5º EA had agreement with asmos for even two inner forts when the abyss siege participants were imbalanced. Don't use that argument either. What I want is to know what the nyerk is up with these people. Is it the fact that everyone was happy under Boon control and Existence and after both of the legions left they weren't happy of 6º who gained the 'power' aka EA aka Democratic collective where every legion is welcomed to have a word and share of medals.Actually now that I think of it, you don't even care for sensibilty. You just wanna run around like nyerks because you simply can. Good times. Good game. BB.

Rocket scientist don't play Aion.

to start off i should introduce miself, i am haka leader of conclave as you can clearly see, too bad you you feel confortable to make assumptions about people and legions you obviously know nothing about.
but i guess thats easy because no one knows who you are ( i think that grow ballz thing applys really well for this situation)

1º whats up is that we are not looking to win the game, we came here from spatalos because at that time asmos were much stronger here than in spatalos. in fact the strongest asmos we had there moved here hence we followed looking for chalenge not ez mode (we had that at spatalos).
unfortunatly due to several reasons they ended up leaving AGAIN!

2º again you fail by making wrong assumptions, we made a move on forts for some time only, to prove a point that there is no need to spam the lfg, get every available elyo to crush the asmos, no need to get every single fort in hole upper and just totaly run over asmos every time they show up to siege simply because we vastly outnumber them.
every fort we took we never defended (so medals were not the issue)

3º actualy much more important then the medal share(read above) my argument has allways been that we as a faction can not be greedy, i was totaly against every time the EA worked so hard so the asmos did not get a single fort, even when we had divine +2 inners EA still gathered and recruited in /3 everyone to go wipe the asmos trying to take a balur fort that makes no sense to me.
neither does all the times the EA thought of going for gelk forts...
srsly how well did you guys think that would go on an allready outnumbered and demoralized faction?

4º i believe it takes more "balls" to make a stand against your own faction trying to change their actions, even at the cost of being called and flamed as asmo lover, ap traders cheaters etc..
and yes those words came from EA members.
also try being perma kisked in gelk for 3 or 4 months (not sure) every single day pvping getting 400 500 kills per week even at high rank and sometimes dying just as much.
then come speak to me about "balls"
maybe for you pvp is to stand in hf with a league and then just run over whatever asmos are around and feel awsome about it, so lets agree to disagree.

5º everyone can see how thats true (or at least how EA pissed on that agreement) everytime asmos tried to take something in abyss.

6º so your idea of power is camping on forts that were handed over from other previous force?? yes m8 hf with your "power"
also if so democratic why kick ppl from your alies simply because they make some remark on EA numbers on siege?
and whynot listen to other legions who think like us and just want a balanced fun to play (and pay) server?
anyways thats enough wall of text but would have so much more to tell you if i knew who you are please introduce yourself ill even inv you to my ts and give you all the other reasons we dont enforce the EA ranks.

[user13]

haka_pt, on 19 May 2011 - 10:54 AM, said:

to start off i should introduce miself, i am haka leader of conclave as you can clearly see, too bad you you feel confortable to make assumptions about people and legions you obviously know nothing about.
but i guess thats easy because no one knows who you are ( i think that grow ballz thing applys really well for this situation)

1º whats up is that we are not looking to win the game, we came here from spatalos because at that time asmos were much stronger here than in spatalos. in fact the strongest asmos we had there moved here hence we followed looking for chalenge not ez mode (we had that at spatalos).
unfortunatly due to several reasons they ended up leaving AGAIN!

2º again you fail by making wrong assumptions, we made a move on forts for some time only, to prove a point that there is no need to spam the lfg, get every available elyo to crush the asmos, no need to get every single fort in hole upper and just totaly run over asmos every time they show up to siege simply because we vastly outnumber them.
every fort we took we never defended (so medals were not the issue)

3º actualy much more important then the medal share(read above) my argument has allways been that we as a faction can not be greedy, i was totaly against every time the EA worked so hard so the asmos did not get a single fort, even when we had divine +2 inners EA still gathered and recruited in /3 everyone to go wipe the asmos trying to take a balur fort that makes no sense to me.
neither does all the times the EA thought of going for gelk forts...
srsly how well did you guys think that would go on an allready outnumbered and demoralized faction?

4º i believe it takes more "balls" to make a stand against your own faction trying to change their actions, even at the cost of being called and flamed as asmo lover, ap traders cheaters etc..
and yes those words came from EA members.
also try being perma kisked in gelk for 3 or 4 months (not sure) every single day pvping getting 400 500 kills per week even at high rank and sometimes dying just as much.
then come speak to me about "balls"
maybe for you pvp is to stand in hf with a league and then just run over whatever asmos are around and feel awsome about it, so lets agree to disagree.

5º everyone can see how thats true (or at least how EA pissed on that agreement) everytime asmos tried to take something in abyss.

6º so your idea of power is camping on forts that were handed over from other previous force?? yes m8 hf with your "power"
also if so democratic why kick ppl from your alies simply because they make some remark on EA numbers on siege?
and whynot listen to other legions who think like us and just want a balanced fun to play (and pay) server?
anyways thats enough wall of text but would have so much more to tell you if i knew who you are please introduce yourself ill even inv you to my ts and give you all the other reasons we dont enforce the EA ranks.

Well basicly I posted to respond the OP. Just wanted to make clear that not everyone understand what he's saying or agree with it. On aside I just wrote what I'd witnessed lately. Im glad you come here and straighten things up. Well seeing your intentions aren't nyerked up like it may seem to an outsider I can now continue watching how this situation evolves if it does.

Who am I? Nobody, that's why I have this name and not my char name. Let's say Im someone who doesn't stack attack +5 stones to their gear when it doesn't affect my max damage. Im also the voice of puzzled people who didn't really know what to think of the witty replies by your members after each siege lost or after anything 'negative' had happened for ely. So don't think your walls of text were in vain.