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55 eternal cloth vs chain More mres or more pdef Rate Topic: -----

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 06:23 AM

View Post1234Sildrin4321, on 10 July 2011 - 09:15 AM, said:

100 pdef = 10 less damage ... in PvE.


In PvP you have again 50% less.
100 pdef = 5 less damage ... in PvP.
So... say what?



i know i quitted, but this calculation is just so wrong i have no word, so i won't justify.

PS: i am not saying chain > cloth i would go full cloth anyway, but for Mikah who is completly full support , she should go pauldron/boots chain, gloves cloth because of cast speed that is all, and not because of the MB she will never really use in real full support pvp group.

As i told Mikah once, there is no difference in the MR of chain or cloth (55 eternal) for supports, because a good sorc or sm with descent buffing / sets will have minimum 98% chances to CC you, and it's not 45 to 80 poor MR that will save you since he will have 93%+ chances to CC you

Ofc, if you fights scrubs, a 40 elite set cloth with 2130 MR is enough, so why going eternal and waste time?

Just saying, the 2 chain parts that could have get Mikah was garanteed 40 dmg less from any phys dmg attack, while the 20 poor MR wouldn't have change nyerk.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 07:36 AM

View PostMasquarade, on 11 July 2011 - 06:23 AM, said:

i know i quitted, but this calculation is just so wrong i have no word, so i won't justify.

PS: i am not saying chain > cloth i would go full cloth anyway, but for Mikah who is completly full support , she should go pauldron/boots chain, gloves cloth because of cast speed that is all, and not because of the MB she will never really use in real full support pvp group.

As i told Mikah once, there is no difference in the MR of chain or cloth (55 eternal) for supports, because a good sorc or sm with descent buffing / sets will have minimum 98% chances to CC you, and it's not 45 to 80 poor MR that will save you since he will have 93%+ chances to CC you

Ofc, if you fights scrubs, a 40 elite set cloth with 2130 MR is enough, so why going eternal and waste time?

Just saying, the 2 chain parts that could have get Mikah was garanteed 40 dmg less from any phys dmg attack, while the 20 poor MR wouldn't have chance nyerk.

Facepalm...just FACEPALM.

This clearly shows how well you know your char.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 08:32 AM

View PostJinxied, on 11 July 2011 - 07:36 AM, said:

Facepalm...just FACEPALM.

This clearly shows how well you know your char.


This clearly show how bad you are. At logics.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 10:35 AM

View PostMasquarade, on 11 July 2011 - 08:32 AM, said:

This clearly show how bad you are. At logics.

Recommending 40e cloth for more mres than the 55 cloth set is just rediculous...
Sorcs will have to wait for SoF or socket more ma or switch sets in order to have chance to sleep you.

Recommending pauldrosn with Attack stats to Pauldrons with mb and Magical Attack is just rediculous.

Recommending 2 parts chain for more p.def when you already have 3 parts cloth is just rediculous.

"40 dmg less" is redicolously nothing compared to the MORE mres you can get and the HIGHER chance to resist.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 06:53 AM

SoF lasts20 secs with only 2min cd.
then they have Magic Boost that puts them at 1900+ m.acc for 1 min.

unless you have 2.2k mres you are only going to resist vs nyerkty sorcs.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 06:57 AM

Full cloth set gives you more than 2.4k mres... :pirate:
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 08:10 AM

If you want an Mr set, get the best mr you can out of all the sets. Dont see whats hard to understand about that...
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 07:59 AM

View PostJinxied, on 11 July 2011 - 10:35 AM, said:

Recommending 40e cloth for more mres than the 55 cloth set is just rediculous... (didn't say that)
Sorcs will have to wait for SoF or socket more ma or switch sets in order to have chance to sleep you. (you are clueless, since that's what all sorcs are doing, and 20 sec 2 min cd is far enough to sleep you and wipe your group)

Recommending pauldrosn with Attack stats to Pauldrons with mb and Magical Attack is just rediculous. (clueless, what is the use of MB and magical attack when you heal?)

Recommending 2 parts chain for more p.def when you already have 3 parts cloth is just rediculous. (clueless, 55 eternal is not set, you don't lose anything mixing type of gears, that is the point of it, but you are retarded)

"40 dmg less" is redicolously nothing compared to the MORE mres you can get and the HIGHER chance to resist. (clueless, since you didn't understand my arguments, i just can't help you, and won't try to explain again)


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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:12 AM

View PostMasquarade, on 13 July 2011 - 07:59 AM, said:

You have touched the ground but you are still digging.

Yeah,sure...get the 55 eternal chain pauldrons and you are going into my block list for eternity...

And you are going to be announced for the most retarded cleric on all times. :evilclown:


Cannot be arsed to argue with someone who simply:
- is not playing anymore...
- doesnt know anything about his class...
- cant even see the obvious difference between 2 items (especially the pauldrons)
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:54 AM

You have touched the ground 2 times and you are still digging.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:19 AM

View PostJinxied, on 11 July 2011 - 10:35 AM, said:

Recommending pauldrosn with Attack stats to Pauldrons with mb and Magical Attack is just

Do you know what the "Magical Attack" stat does at least? It's useless for all except SM and Sorc in that order. Not that it does much at all for those two but it does nothing for all the other classes that I know of.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:56 AM

View PostStof, on 14 July 2011 - 11:19 AM, said:

Do you know what the "Magical Attack" stat does at least? It's useless for all except SM and Sorc in that order. Not that it does much at all for those two but it does nothing for all the other classes that I know of.

Hits more when you use a magical skill?
Still better than attack...
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 06:35 AM

View PostJinxied, on 14 July 2011 - 11:56 AM, said:

Hits more when you use a magical skill?
Still better than attack...


magical attack => increase the dmg of the normal magical attack (in clear, the auto attack of the sorc/sm)

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 08:51 AM

View PostMasquarade, on 15 July 2011 - 06:35 AM, said:

magical attack => increase the dmg of the normal magical attack (in clear, the auto attack of the sorc/sm)

DIG DIG DIG DIG DIG DIG

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Should I underline MAGICAL for you? :dizzy:

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 12:03 PM

View PostJinxied, on 15 July 2011 - 08:51 AM, said:

Smite V
Storm of Aion IV
Punishing Wind II
Chasetise II
Holy Servant IV

Should I underline MAGICAL for you? :dizzy:

Everyone goes so Pro when quits....pfff


Oh man, you are a serious case, a very serious case, i just don't know what to do of you anymore, even reason doesn't help you...

i will just answer one last time, and let you dig forever in you litle world...

MB = Magic boost = Magical damage (sort of, i make it easy so you can understand it with your only 3 neurones)
But certainly not Magical ATTACK.

OUPS your links are Magical DMG...

Everybody knows the stats MB increase your DMG from magic skills (except some of them like summons who works partialy like this), does it do it on your normal magical attack?

The real problem here is, you don't know what is magical attack, i am explaining you what it is, but you just don't understand what it is.

it's terrible, a guy who quitted knows the game better than you :(
Arguments like this means nothing, since when i quitted no updates occured, so please continue to make a fool of yourself, i am enjoying it deeply.

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:31 AM

View PostMasquarade, on 15 July 2011 - 12:03 PM, said:

Oh man, you are a serious case, a very serious case, i just don't know what to do of you anymore, even reason doesn't help you...

i will just answer one last time, and let you dig forever in you litle world...

MB = Magic boost = Magical damage (sort of, i make it easy so you can understand it with your only 3 neurones)
But certainly not Magical ATTACK.

OUPS your links are Magical DMG...

Everybody knows the stats MB increase your DMG from magic skills (except some of them like summons who works partialy like this), does it do it on your normal magical attack?

The real problem here is, you don't know what is magical attack, i am explaining you what it is, but you just don't understand what it is.

it's terrible, a guy who quitted knows the game better than you :(
Arguments like this means nothing, since when i quitted no updates occured, so please continue to make a fool of yourself, i am enjoying it deeply.

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:46 AM

After short research both magical attack and attack are useless for clerics but still cloth gives more mres which is the stat everyone is going for. Which still shows that Masquarade is baddie for recommending the chain over the cloth, pdef over mres... :loser: T.U-T.U
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 10:25 AM

View PostJinxied, on 16 July 2011 - 04:46 AM, said:

After short research both magical attack and attack are useless for clerics but still cloth gives more mres which is the stat everyone is going for. Which still shows that Masquarade is baddie for recommending the chain over the cloth, pdef over mres... :loser: T.U-T.U


This is how a retarded args after knowing he was a fool:
"you are right, but still you are a baddi because you don't know the basics"

When i was one of those who permited baddies like you to become "Wanabe" and learn those bases.
It's all about mentality, and reason, i gave my arguments, you didn't listen to them, more than that, you didn't understand them, can't help.

if only you would have gave me the simple and easy argument: then take cloth and put more HP in manastones to compensate the loss of phys def, since the simple and first matter here was to have the best SYPPORT build ever.

But you didn't try to think by yourself, mr, mr , mr cloth AHAHHA CLOTH NOOB CLOTH!! (imitating you, i know am good :D)

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 02:08 PM

View PostJinxied, on 15 July 2011 - 08:51 AM, said:

Smite V
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Should I underline MAGICAL for you? :dizzy:

Everyone goes so Pro when quits....pfff

you are clueless as usual, it works only for auto attacks and its useless stat for anyone.
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Posted 17 July 2011 - 05:54 AM

View PostSzim, on 16 July 2011 - 02:08 PM, said:

you are clueless as usual, it works only for auto attacks and its useless stat for anyone.

I've proved my point that mres is way more useful than the rest he said/recommended...


Your arogant opinion means nothing in here since this is not your class section and Im pretty sure you havent played cleric at all... :indeed:
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