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#1 User is offline   Adamam 

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:39 AM

I play a level 55 chanter in full chain, but have always wondered about leather, I used to play leather around level 40 which was fun, but just followed the crowed up to where I am now.
I hardly PVP, if I ever do it's in a group so I'm not sure if that means anything in regards to play leather.

But yeah, level 55, full leather chanter, cap evasion, PVE armour?
Please give good arguments, no trolling!

Thanks! :)
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 01:05 PM

Chanter is now the most defenseless and the most utterly useless class in AION as we approach 2.7.

As long as you have 3 skills on your bar (WoQ, WoW and WoS) and know how to use them in a group, no one will give a nyerk about what you are wearing including yourself.

That said, while solo, you will be raped by any other class played by any decent non-idiot regardless of what your attire is.

Hope that answers your question.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 01:14 PM

Leather works just fine. My miragents is leather slotted with attack. Great PvE grind/dps set.

For pvp though I doubt you could get up to 2200 evasion or higher. So probably pointless.

I also have a MBoost 30e set and a 40e chain set. Like Adamam said, you really can't tell the difference.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 04:26 PM

Like Vela said :P

And tbf, because I'm not PVP oriented so I don't wear PVP clothing, I'm pretty much raped by any class anyway, unless I can run fast enough >_>

In all seriousness though, I've always felt with leather I evaded more attacks, and imo parry is just pointless, so was consider going back to leather seeing as evaded means damage is missed, not just some of it.

And I agree Vela, we are the most usless class as we get further in to the updates, but, with leather, I can be useless looking sexy!
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 06:45 PM

At lvl 55, even a templar with 3K block doesn't block anything so a chanter... :sidefrown:
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 10:45 AM

View PostMihomine, on 07 September 2011 - 06:45 PM, said:

At lvl 55, even a templar with 3K block doesn't block anything so a chanter... :sidefrown:


Is that, so a chanter with full evasion won't evade?

I'm just open to ideas, I'm not setting anything in stone :P
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 06:16 PM

View PostAdamam, on 08 September 2011 - 10:45 AM, said:

Is that, so a chanter with full evasion won't evade?

You gotta have more evasion then your targets accuracy to see evades. So if your pvp targets have 2400 accuracy or so, your gonna want at 2800 evasion.

So while that is possible, it would take alot to get there. Also having 0 concentration would mean you relied mostly on evading to not get interrupted when healing, which is where my major issue with leather comes into play. Probably be fine if you have a high concentration head piece like the anuhart's chanter one or something though.

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Edit: Now I know that 55 stuff could get alot higher, but if I slotted all my miragent's with evasion, I would get 2200 evasion with mantra on. So hitting even close to 2800 would be very difficult.

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 03:54 AM

View PostIndigoy, on 08 September 2011 - 06:16 PM, said:

You gotta have more evasion then your targets accuracy to see evades. So if your pvp targets have 2400 accuracy or so, your gonna want at 2800 evasion.

So while that is possible, it would take alot to get there. Also having 0 concentration would mean you relied mostly on evading to not get interrupted when healing, which is where my major issue with leather comes into play. Probably be fine if you have a high concentration head piece like the anuhart's chanter one or something though.

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Edit: Now I know that 55 stuff could get alot higher, but if I slotted all my miragent's with evasion, I would get 2200 evasion with mantra on. So hitting even close to 2800 would be very difficult.



Not even to mention how you want to gather enough accuracy / crit to actually hit others ;)

But of course nothing can top the sexiness of leather ;)
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 10:14 AM

Well, most chanters must be sadomasichists considering the game mechanics so there's no surprise that some want to wear leather.
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 11:59 AM

I think most of us were holding on hoping for a buff patch that never came (and probably never will).
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 12:55 PM

not me bro I enjoy a challenge ;D
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 04:34 PM

View Postmisto, on 09 September 2011 - 12:55 PM, said:

not me bro I enjoy a challenge ;D


WB Misto, was kinda boring without u bra :sparkles:
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 06:51 PM

View Postmisto, on 09 September 2011 - 12:55 PM, said:

not me bro I enjoy preposterous amounts of relentless masochistic physical abuse in game form ;D

Fixed that for you, I think it may have been a typo.

On a more serious note though.



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Posted 11 September 2011 - 03:39 PM

I think with a full evasion set, you may evade 2-3 attacks out of the 15 attacks from the enemy melee class :P
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Posted 11 September 2011 - 08:42 PM

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 05:41 PM

View Post1234Sildrin4321, on 09 September 2011 - 03:54 AM, said:

Not even to mention how you want to gather enough accuracy / crit to actually hit others ;)

But of course nothing can top the sexiness of leather ;)


My point exactly!
Leather is just, beautiful!

But aye, that's a huge loss and I always seem to forget the concentration!
It's a shame leather can't be reskinned.. Or concentration stones, either one.
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Posted 14 September 2011 - 01:21 AM

Yay concerntration stones.. even more things that I would need to stack good idea
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Posted 14 September 2011 - 04:11 AM

View Postmisto, on 14 September 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

Yay concerntration stones.. even more things that I would need to stack good idea

They need to add chanter only manastones that add: HP, MP, Attack, Crit, Healing Boost, Magic Boost, Magical Accuracy, Accuracy, Magic Resist, Block, Parry, and Concentration all at once.

Since you know... we are the only class that legitimately needs to slot EVERYTHING.
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Posted 14 September 2011 - 06:10 AM

View PostAdamam, on 13 September 2011 - 05:41 PM, said:

My point exactly!
Leather is just, beautiful!

But aye, that's a huge loss and I always seem to forget the concentration!
It's a shame leather can't be reskinned.. Or concentration stones, either one.



Well, there is the possibility to use one acc item with high concentration on it. Hat, ring, earring, ....
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Posted 15 September 2011 - 08:18 PM

View Postmisto, on 14 September 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

Yay concerntration stones.. even more things that I would need to stack good idea


Why would you need to stack it when it's natural in chain?

I'm on about if a chanter decided to go leather which isn't natural in leather O_O

You don't need to stack anything you don't want to! ;)

View Post1234Sildrin4321, on 14 September 2011 - 06:10 AM, said:

Well, there is the possibility to use one acc item with high concentration on it. Hat, ring, earring, ....


That's what I was thinking, if I did go leather with evasion, I could make up for concentration with accessories, but I'm not sure if accessories can make up for natural concentration from chain?

I know concentration is important when healing so you're not interrupted, but how else is important? I mean, would it be such a huge loss if there wasn't much concentration but high evasion?
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