[Zomise]

http://forums.eu.aio...ead.php?t=31767

Should be up today in PTS. So how is it? I'm stuck at work so share your screenies and info please plox.

[Dushatar]

Goes up at 21, 7 more hours to go until we can find out our self all the questions we been asking last weeks and NCSoft promised they would answer but never did.

[Dushatar]

So yeah, the PTS is up.

They wiped all the old chars, and the xp is same rate as on retail, hf getting to 50 to try new content.

Oh NCSoft, why do you always troll us.

[XXArcanumXX]

Aion PTS has always been the biggest joke ever, was made only for players who want to lose time lving their chars over and over again so they can try the new content.

It will become more and more fun as the lv cap increases...








Not.

[Mikuni]

What's the point of even releasing this update on the PTS after what they've done? they expect anyone to reach 50 in 6 days with normal exp rate to "test" the new stuff? oO nc doesn't cease to amaze me.

[Zomise]

Was quite the disappointment yea... Was expecting to log into at least a 10x exp boost.

[Mikuni]

They restored the characters.

[Dushatar]

Yarr, they did a 2 week rollback on the server. So the poor ppl that lvled yesterday with 1x xp got wiped, lol.

Oh well, at least I got my lvl 50 char back to try out PvP arena, its not what I expected, but pretty cool.

Short vid of the 1v1 arena:



I thought it was basically a duel, ending when one player beats the other. But its a 3 minute timer, and when someone dies he just respawn again with full hp/mp.

So basically you keep fighting for 3x3 minutes, and get points for each kill. The person with most points at end win.

This post has been edited by Dushatar: 14 October 2011 - 02:27 PM

[Grayy]

Wow, that's rather dissapointing. Having a mob aggroing automaticaly hitting you and stunning you is rather idiotic. And not refreshing cooldowns when new 3m round starts is stupid as well. How you expect classes with 6m+ cds to perform at their best ? :x

at first impression it seems to me very poorly designed.

This post has been edited by Grayy: 14 October 2011 - 03:09 PM

[Fiets]

It's just another one of those great PvPvE ideas. Those Koreans seem fixated on mixing mobs in everything that comes even remotely close to having PvP in this game.. Dredgion, Arena's, Balaurea.... Retarded.

I don't necessarily mind the whole respawning. It sounds cool actually, much like those Koreans "tournaments held. HP/skills used keep cd while you fight next enemy (or in this case the same enemy). I just hope the losing enemy doesn't get this special shield buff that boosts their stats etc when they lose a certain amount of times like the 10ffa arena..

This post has been edited by Fiets: 14 October 2011 - 03:18 PM

[Dushatar]

Grayy, on 14 October 2011 - 03:05 PM, said:

Wow, that's rather dissapointing. Having a mob aggroing automaticaly hitting you and stunning you is rather idiotic. And not refreshing cooldowns when new 3m round starts is stupid as well. How you expect classes with 6m+ cds to perform at their best ? :x

at first impression it seems to me very poorly designed.

Yeah, I really do not understand NCSofts fetish of adding mobs into PvP environments :S

The good news is that it was only in 1 of the 4 maps. The other two ground maps are pretty cool, one is basically only a bridge, so very narrow area/little kiting. The other one is a bigger arena, but instead of a mob there is a node in middle you gather for 100p.

I like that they really tried to have different type of arenas, some small for melee classes, some bigger and easy to kite for ranged classes.

EDIT: Another thing I was wrong about is that DP skills do work. However since you keep respawning its not such a big deal as it would be if you only played to first death. Sure a Sorc can enter with 8k DP and open with a lightburst, but that will only be 1 out of 10+ battles.

This post has been edited by Dushatar: 14 October 2011 - 03:24 PM

[Wolfen]

Dushatar, on 14 October 2011 - 02:25 PM, said:

Yarr, they did a 2 week rollback on the server. So the poor ppl that lvled yesterday with 1x xp got wiped, lol.

Oh well, at least I got my lvl 50 char back to try out PvP arena, its not what I expected, but pretty cool.

Short vid of the 1v1 arena:



I thought it was basically a duel, ending when one player beats the other. But its a 3 minute timer, and when someone dies he just respawn again with full hp/mp.

So basically you keep fighting for 3x3 minutes, and get points for each kill. The person with most points at end win.

How many PvP Insignas you got from winning that match?

This post has been edited by wolfen: 14 October 2011 - 03:25 PM

[Dushatar]

The whole respawn system greatly favors chanters/clerics btw. If a assassin win a close fight, the next fight he will be at 20% hp, and unable to heal up. However if a cleric win a close fight, before the assassin respawn (5 sec) the cleric will have healed up to 100% again. So the cleric will reset to a new fight, where as non healing classes will be free kill.

wolfen, on 14 October 2011 - 03:24 PM, said:

How many PvP Insignas you got from winning that match?

The reward for winning the 1v1 arena was 35 PvP tokens (+ some EC tokens/ap).
The reward for coming among top of the 10 man FFA arena was 75 PvP tokens (+ EC tokens/ap).

The reward you get is not static, but decided on the amount of points you get. But if we assume 35/75 is average, and that you are limited to going twice per day (does anyone know for sure?(EDIT: I confirmed it)) you could get maybe 100-200 PvP tokens per day.

The best new PvP weapon cost 28 000 EC tokens and 1900 PvP tokens. So that's only about 15 days of winning the PvP arena? Sounds almost too easy (way faster than farming 1.5M ap and 163 plat medals).

The armor sets too are very cheap. Full armor set is slightly more expensive than the weapon, lets say 20-25 days for the full best PvP armor.

Screenshots of every item with stats/price can be found here:
http://www.flickr.co...17790/lightbox/

This post has been edited by Dushatar: 15 October 2011 - 04:20 AM

[Wolfen]

Dushatar, on 14 October 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:

The reward for winning the 1v1 arena was 35 PvP tokens (+ some EC tokens/ap).
The reward for coming among top of the 10 man FFA arena was 75 PvP tokens (+ EC tokens/ap).

The reward you get is not static, but decided on the amount of points you get. But if we assume 35/75 is average, and that you are limited to going twice per day (does anyone know for sure?) you could get maybe 100-150 PvP tokens per day.

The best new PvP weapon cost 28 000 EC tokens and 1900 PvP tokens. So that's only about 15 days of winning the PvP arena? Sounds almost too easy (way faster than farming 1.5M ap and 163 plat medals).

The armor sets too are very cheap. Full armor set is slightly more expensive than the weapon, lets say 20-25 days for the full best PvP armor.

Screenshots of every item with stats/price can be found here:
http://www.flickr.co...otos/68617215@N ... /lightbox/

Thanks, i already knew that it was based on the amount of points that you make but i thought that winning the match would have gave you some bonus on the insignas, but it doesn't, since you got only 35.

There is no point to waste a ticket for the 1v1 arena then, even because you can do the training one (which has free consumables).

[Nukkies]

Thanks for the flicker link dushatar.

Bit disappointed that there's a flying map, being a chanter and all. If I get ranger/sorc match up and this map is in rotation then any lead I may have made will just go simply because they haven't addressed the melee combat flight bug in two years.

[Dushatar]

I did the daily "quest" on PTS now. I was afraid it would be some stupid PvE, but basically you talk to the NPC and you get 2 tickets.

This confirms you can do 2 arenas per day. Daily reset 9 am each day as normal.

Well, actually the instance itself has no cooldown, and the tickets stay for 7 days. So if you wanted you could gather up 14 tickets and then do a full day of arena fights. But yeah, ill call it two per day.

This post has been edited by Dushatar: 15 October 2011 - 04:18 AM

[Jinxied]

The hammer has almost the same stats as Debilkarim's....+50 ma and 8% cast speed. Kinda...erm useless?... Those in 55 ET abyss items will just rape everyone in full EC sets lol...

[Dushatar]

A note to the people doing EC atm / saving EC tokens for 2.7. Dont!

If your aim is to get the 2.7 PvP items then not a single EC run is needed.

The ratio of items you get from the PvP arena is same as the items cost.

For example:

One round give me 480 EC tokens and 30 PvP tokens. Thats a ratio of 15:1.

Lets say you want the 2.7 PvP weapon which cost 28000 EC tokens and 1900 PvP tokens.
Then you have to do PvP arena 1900/30 = 63 times. But when you do this, you will at the same time earn 63*480 = 30000 EC tokens.

Even if you start 2.7 with ZERO EC tokens, you will have enough EC tokens to buy a PvP item at the same time as you have enough PvP tokens.

[Nobody]

For those thinking of the arenas as a deathmatch, it helps to think of them as something else. Think of the mobs as potential objectives for points (depending on whether they're the easy ones to kill or hard) and it becomes more of a strategy for what mix of pvp and points you want to get. Which is generally more difficult than just a straight deathmatch.

Just owning other players over and over is a sure way to win though.

[Dushatar]

Nobody, on 15 October 2011 - 06:43 AM, said:

For those thinking of the arenas as a deathmatch, it helps to think of them as something else. Think of the mobs as potential objectives for points (depending on whether they're the easy ones to kill or hard) and it becomes more of a strategy for what mix of pvp and points you want to get. Which is generally more difficult than just a straight deathmatch.

Just owning other players over and over is a sure way to win though.

I dont mind the gathering, they add a bit of tactic into it. And surely the reason for adding them were b/c otherwise a sin could go into perma hide and force a draw. Or kill the enemy once and then perma hide for win.

But trying to 1v1 someone, while having a mob running around stunning..... Its retarded.