[Tekki]

Most other classes have had topics made about their 3.0 skills but yet none exists for Sorcs for some reason, thought people liked sorcs!



Only thing I read so far is the new Robe is +300 (some sort of magical defence but not resist).

New nuke it seems with 6k tooltip damage but it is stigma so likely Glacial Shard path.

[Quasimodo]

Tekki, on 20 October 2011 - 02:13 PM, said:

New nuke it seems with 6k tooltip damage but it is stigma so likely Glacial Shard path.

5895 dmg with the new higher mboost cap is insane. Assuming the new mboost cap is 3k PvE dmg without crit is 20633. Even with 50% PvP reduction (PvP armor and PvP accessories/weapon cancel each other) that's more than enough to 1-shot vast majority of players.

[Stof]

Quasimodo, on 20 October 2011 - 03:44 PM, said:

5895 dmg with the new higher mboost cap is insane. Assuming the new mboost cap is 3k PvE dmg without crit is 20633. Even with 50% PvP reduction (PvP armor and PvP accessories/weapon cancel each other) that's more than enough to 1-shot vast majority of players.

If I remember well, the sorc big nukes starting from Inferno got a hidden PvP malus modifier.

[Quasimodo]

Yeah. But still this is too much.

[Haters]

Quasimodo, on 20 October 2011 - 04:19 PM, said:

Yeah. But still this is too much.

It'll most likely do about 6k in pvp.

[Stof]

Quasimodo, on 20 October 2011 - 04:19 PM, said:

Yeah. But still this is too much.

Don't forget that at level 60 we're also bound to have more HP by default. Remains to be seen how strong it is really :/

[Quasimodo]

Stof, on 20 October 2011 - 04:38 PM, said:

Don't forget that at level 60 we're also bound to have more HP by default. Remains to be seen how strong it is really :/

AP60 set has less HP than AP50, and it's a continuation of a trend we see with AP55 gear already. I highly doubt that even at L60 and with L60 PvP gear socketed with L70 stones we'll have more than 5-10% more hp than now.

[Fiets]

Stof, on 20 October 2011 - 04:38 PM, said:

Don't forget that at level 60 we're also bound to have more HP by default. Remains to be seen how strong it is really :/

They'd have to add passive hp buff each level beyond 55 of like 1k each level to make that damage somewhat justified. We all know that isn't gonna happen and this is just ridiculous. 6k tooltip damage is too much.

Sorc shouldn't get a new high damage skill at all, this is what broke the class after 2.0. Flame Spray alone was fine, but not FS, GS, dp's, this new skill.

This post has been edited by Fiets: 20 October 2011 - 05:09 PM

[Stof]

Quasimodo, on 20 October 2011 - 04:55 PM, said:

AP60 set has less HP than AP50, and it's a continuation of a trend we see with AP55 gear already. I highly doubt that even at L60 and with L60 PvP gear socketed with L70 stones we'll have more than 5-10% more hp than now.

We'll get more HP from plain leveling (we got a lot of HP from 50 to 55 it seems), and the AP 60 stat got that new "magic cancelation" stat in it isn't it?

[delacroix]

Depending how the math of magic defence is applied, sorc's skills will deal less dmg than what they do now.

[SethGod]

New 6k nuke, throw this into the mix of usual lava>inferno>frost and u have a(nother) 1shot combo (at least for now). Sux for pve due to very high cd, but who cares.

Robe of wind - most likely to be +300 m.acc but also can be +300 m.resist (lol if so)

Cooling seems like a 3 to 5 sec stun, 15m cast that deals no dmg, might be sharing cd with Tornado by the looks of it (same range, high MP cost)

Welcome to winter, this seems like a chain skill for Winter Bind... could do smth like: when u move it leaves a 10m AOE trail behind u, so that if the enemy chases u, he'll get slowed (how could enemy chase u after he is rooted by winter bind in the first place kinda makes less sense but wtv, maybe he debuffed/used pot wtv)

Wind Widow and I summon meteors not entirely sure what "repeat 3 or 4 times to trigger" means, cause they got high cd from what I see) but if this means that it will always proc on the 3rd or 4th use respectively, then it's nice concept; you'll have a guaranteed instant slow every 3min (each 3rd cast of wind widow stuff) and a stun every 3min (each 4th cast of meteors).

just theorycrafting here...

This post has been edited by SethGod: 21 October 2011 - 09:46 AM

[Stof]

SethGod, on 21 October 2011 - 09:44 AM, said:

Robe of wind - most likely to be +300 m.acc but also can be +300 m.resist (lol if so)

It's a +300 m.negation. A new stat that I think does the same as elemental resist stats.

SethGod, on 21 October 2011 - 09:44 AM, said:

Cooling seems like a 3 to 5 sec stun, 15m cast that deals no dmg, might be sharing cd with Tornado by the looks of it (same range, high MP cost)

Target player is immune to all damage for the stun duration actually.

SethGod, on 21 October 2011 - 09:44 AM, said:

Wind Widow and I summon meteors not entirely sure what "repeat 3 or 4 times to trigger" means, cause they got high cd from what I see) but if this means that it will always proc on the 3rd or 4th use respectively, then it's nice concept; you'll have a guaranteed instant slow every 3min (each 3rd cast of wind widow stuff) and a stun every 3min (each 4th cast of meteors).

just theorycrafting here...

Repeat skills are combo skills that combo into themselves. For example, SM got some combo skill x5, 0s cast 1.5 minute CD. I think the CD counter starts when you stop using it (either because you stoped or because you reached the max limit you could repeat the skill.

[SethGod]

Stof, on 21 October 2011 - 10:29 AM, said:

It's a +300 m.negation. A new stat that I think does the same as elemental resist stats.

Hmm if it's like elem. defense then it's really nice, it's same as the secondary effect from Elem. Ward that is somewhat overlooked ( the +300 elem defense)

Stof, on 21 October 2011 - 10:29 AM, said:

Target player is immune to all damage for the stun duration actually.

So target is stunned but it also becomes immune to dmg... how the fk does this make any sense? crap remove shock inducer by the looks of it...can start masking a silence on enemy but duration will overlap and can prove annoying.

Stof, on 21 October 2011 - 10:29 AM, said:

Repeat skills are combo skills that combo into themselves. For example, SM got some combo skill x5, 0s cast 1.5 minute CD. I think the CD counter starts when you stop using it (either because you stoped or because you reached the max limit you could repeat the skill.

So you're saying that u can do that wind widow skill 3 x times before cd starts? You also land the effect on target and 3x more dmg done, sounds nice ^.^

This post has been edited by SethGod: 21 October 2011 - 07:13 PM

[Fiol]

New Stigmas are NOT greater one. :S
One of stigma is for lv 58, second for lv 60. Conclusion is easy. Sleeping Storm build with 6k nuke sounds legit. D:

[draco0001]

so, where are greater stigmas?

[Fiol]

None in 3.0.

[draco0001]

Fiol, on 07 November 2011 - 04:37 AM, said:

None in 3.0.

fail.
that still not reveled...
lvl 60 without greater stigmas. It dont make sense.

This post has been edited by draco0001: 07 November 2011 - 07:52 AM

[Stof]

draco0001, on 07 November 2011 - 07:51 AM, said:

fail.
that still not reveled...
lvl 60 without greater stigmas. It dont make sense.

Of course it's already revealed. The truth is that there's no new greater stigmas in 3.0

[reflexion]

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH * throws hat on the ground*

[draco0001]

Its really OP.
6k nuke for wintry armor build.... 3k MB and 2,1k MR is possible...
And Another OP stun and, another teleporte with Imobilize....
really OP, Sleep Storm+Lava Tempest+delay blast+6nuke skill+Pandaemonium focus+frost= you are death

This post has been edited by draco0001: 13 November 2011 - 12:11 PM