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Posted 29 October 2011 - 05:32 PM

Magic block (it is unknown what it will be translated officially as, but let's just call it magic block for now) is a new stat that seems to have come about in KAion 3.0. Supposedly, the cap for magic boost has now been removed as shown in the following image where it is at 3,610.

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Aksi got together with us for testing this new stat and early results (we are currently double checking them) indicate that one point of magic block cancels out 1 point of magic boost. There is still a magic resist stat as well (those are the stats with all the 100's in the images below).

Both SM's and Sorc's have a passive magic block stat that they gain as they level up. The first one is gained at level 10, then 22, and so on and so forth. Small amounts also appear to be available from gear (there was 56 available from a pair of chain boots). All tests were done to a level 56 SM that had no magic block, who then ate the first book, the second book, etc. The attacks were done by a level 60 Cleric. Results are shown below for those who'd like to double check the calculations. Since the attacks were done to a SM, there was some passive magic resist that was present in all parts of the experiment (since you can't take off passives :) ).

All tests consisted of the same cast skill and then dot skill in order to see how magic block affected the casts.


No Magic Block

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After Taking the Level 10 Book (100 magic block)


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After Taking the Level 22 Book (120 magic block)

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After taking the Level 34 Book (140 magic block)

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After Taking the Level 48 Book (160 magic block)


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The Formulas Used for the Calculation

(so the community can double check us)

Thanks to Aski for running the stats.

Tested characters:
1. Attacker: Cleric, Elyos, 60 lvl, intellect 105
Skill 1: Smite VI
Base skill 1 damage: 596
Skill 2: Chastise III
Base skill 2 damage: 271 at first, 259 DOT
Magic boost: 2058

Target: Spiritmaster, Elyos, 56 lvl, intellect 115
Earth/fire resist: 100
PvP defense: 0

Target magical block: 0
Smite: 817
Chastise: 372 366

Target magical block: 100
Smite: 791
Chastise: 360 354

Target magical block: 120
Smite: 786
Chastise: 358 352

Target magical block: 140
Smite: 780
Chastise: 355 349

Target magical block: 160
Smite: 775
Chastise: 353 347

Magic damage PVP formula for 0% pvp attack/pvp defense: base damage*0.5*(1+(magic boost/intellect*10))*earth/fire/water/wind resistance

So, 100 earth/fire resistance lowers damage for approximately 7.4%, mboost is 2058, and formula for Smite looks like
596*0.5*(1 + 2058/1050)*0.926 = 817
For Chastise
271*0.5*(1 + 2058/1050)*0.926 = 372

For magic block 100
Smite: 596*0,5*(1+(2058-100)/1050)*0,926 = 791
Chastise: 271*0,5*(1+(2058-100)/1050)*0,926 = 360

For magic block 120
Smite: 596*0,5*(1+(2058-120)/1050)*0,926 = 786
Chastise: 271*0,5*(1+(2058-120)/1050)*0,926 = 358

And so on and so forth. There appears to be a 1:1 correspondence between block and boost.
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 05:51 PM

One more stat to fight with... :eyeroll:


Will the counter for this stat be magical accuracy again?
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 05:53 PM

View PostNobody, on 29 October 2011 - 05:32 PM, said:

Supposedly, the cap for magic boost has now been removed as shown in the following image where it is at 3,610.

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How to ruin your game by NCsoft. Give the already most OP class an unlimited amount of magic boost so soon their skills will hit over 9k each!
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 06:28 PM

There is a soft cap though as gear only has so much of the stuff.
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 06:31 PM

Is this only for the mages or like everyone have this stat?...


I mean cleric with 2.4k mres + let's say 600 magic block.... :dazed:
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 06:36 PM

View PostNobody, on 29 October 2011 - 06:28 PM, said:

There is a soft cap though as gear only has so much of the stuff.

I'd say the amount you can achieve now with current gear (obviously will get higher and higher with 60 eternal items) is already more than enough to 1 shot most classes. Why have 5k mboost when 4k mboost kills people in 1 spell.....
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 06:37 PM

herp derp NCsoft :snowman:
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 06:40 PM

View PostJinxied, on 29 October 2011 - 06:31 PM, said:

Is this only for the mages or like everyone have this stat?...


I mean cleric with 2.4k mres + let's say 600 magic block.... :dazed:


Mages are the only ones with the passive stat for it. Everybody else needs to get it from gear. I'm not sure if there are magic block stones at the moment. It would make sense if there was food/stones that would boost it though.

And yes, I know it's a very big deal. I'm not sure that we know how it will equal out and what happened to mres (if anything).
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 07:59 PM

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 08:01 PM

View PostFiets, on 29 October 2011 - 05:53 PM, said:

How to ruin your game by NCsoft. Give the already most OP class an unlimited amount of magic boost so soon their skills will hit over 9k each!





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Posted 29 October 2011 - 08:16 PM

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Supposedly, the cap for magic boost has now been removed as shown in the following image where it is at 3,610.


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Posted 29 October 2011 - 09:01 PM

sigh...............just...............sigh..................


hmm lets just hope the mboost cap has been removed for testing purposes only. I guess magic block on gear will be class dependant too so plate gets the lowest end of that bargain again?

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 09:22 PM

1 - 1 magic boost to magic block?

near useless stat for most classes

View PostDeliq, on 10 May 2011 - 01:38 PM, said:

Yeah stormwing has better crit (useful for glad, not so crucial for ranger)
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 11:10 PM

why give that nyerk. no fking sense wtf?!..looking forward for tera or gw2 -.-
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 11:22 PM

wtf u all nyerking about? a decently pvp specced (read non-braindead) sorc has at most 1900-2000 m.boost total, if ppl can reach up to 500 m.block (from new gearz and pvp jewelry) that m.boost drops under 1500 (and no, new cloth elite L60 or wtv new gear wont bring omg-so-much more m.boost either; it's a slight improvement)

'the fk u all so delusional to think u can 1 shot ppl with 1500 m.boost? :snowman:
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Posted 30 October 2011 - 12:15 AM

^sorc defending his class who's getting buffed
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Posted 30 October 2011 - 02:09 AM

wow some people don't have a clue

sorcs are getting nerfed bigtime, and especially clerics and sms

with 60 abyss cloth and leather you can get over 1k magic block, and you also can further increase it via enchanting and jewellery.

that is exactly why they lifted magic boost cap, because you can reach a lot of magic block. A top geared sorc specced into mr/ma/hp whatever, will have less than 1k magic boost against well geared enemy. That is a huge nerf, as sorcs will have to respec into magic boost if they want to counter it, and then they ll have 7k hp, no mr and no ma

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 02:20 AM

^
But of course with new gears comes better stats like more mr -> so less to socket, can socket mboost then, and you don't have 1k magic block in a zap either.
But this is still quite a big nerf for defensive clerics as they will do absolute nyerk damage, and if clerics need to socket full mboost... lol
Same for sm's.

But still, I wouldn't cheer nor cry just yet, better to wait for more information.
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Posted 30 October 2011 - 02:36 AM

there's already all the info you need, magic boost formula, magic block ratio is 1 to 1, stats of new items.

on cloth only its 1030, leather slightly less, chain and plate have pretty crap magic block though. +130 to that if you get to +10, and whatever you get from jewels. Sorcs will hit for 500 dmg, 2k from 2k dp, clers and sms dots will tick for 100 damage. If this goes through it's gonna be huge rebalance =)

Also don't forget that that new items are class only, so glads will only be able to wear plate, etc

p.s thanks for info, Nobody

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 03:41 AM

SMs will get for free a permanent 200 macc/mboost buff. 200 macc from a skill book means 14 less macc manastones needed to counter mres which converted to mboost + the bonus from skill is around 600 more mboost at level 60.
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