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#581 User is offline   Ecto 

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 04:59 AM

In-game purchasing :( People taking a leaf out of the app markets methods (or is it the other way round). Regardless I hope it is something very easy to ignore :D Was hoping the cash shop would be on the website.

Whilst I'm here might as well drop a new question:

In what way will CM's be split among the servers? Each server will have 1 or 2 assigned to it or there will be a global pool of available support, language dependent?

Any expectations for cashshop content news? Will be interesting to see how much stuff is equivalent to a gold package. Maybe will be able to buy enough ap for same price n not have to worry about long CD's :p

View PostEdgeliver, on 12 January 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:


When will Aion GF start? 12th february
How exactly will the change happen? Servers go down, we're told wait 4 hours, we wait 8, servers go back up.
What items in store? Snap


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Posted 12 January 2012 - 05:55 AM

View PostCMBlackVelvet, on 12 January 2012 - 04:28 AM, said:

That's still in discussion.
The gold package will be available via ingame itemshop

Waiitttttttt..... Is this mean that we can buy the gold package with ingame currency?!... Is this new currency tradable?... :eyeroll:
Goodbye Aion :(
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 06:36 AM

View PostDaemion, on 07 January 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Will the dates for 3.0 be in line with NA/NCSoft's implementation of 3.0, so as to maintain as much parity as possible?

3.0 is a /big/ bee in the bonnet for a lot of F2P nay-sayers, and I hate to give them ammunition, but if we have to wait longer for 3.0 while NA gets it at NCSoft's discretion, there will more likely than not be a major revolt of Vets/Gold players.

PS: Did Zoe get my email?


Quoting to try and get a reply since I didn't get a reply from 3 pages ago.

EDIT: Turns out Zoe got my email, and she's forwarding it to you, BV. After all that. xD

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 03:55 PM

Oooh, so you are the guy she mentioned. Yes, I received your email, however I will reply tomorrow as I am finished with emails for today. But of course, questions:

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When will Aion GF start?


February, exact date will be announced but I can't tell you more right now.

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How exactly will the change happen?


Where is my shoving Patrick meme now? Meh!
I can't give you details about it yet. When the time is right (expect in about 1-2 weeks) then I might be able to give out details.

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What items in store?


Customizations mainly. Similar to the current NCstore. Skins, miols, dyes, etc.

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It's january and a bit too late for 'I'm waiting for a reply' 'Keep you informed on a later date' for my taste.


It is never too late. Also the service gets handed over step by step and thus requires preparations and more. Some things we need to get clarified, some info require more than just "yeah". Basically until the announcement in December, everything was theory and a plan and majority of things are in progress right now. So imagine us in our office, running around like a bunch of mad chickens.


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In what way will CM's be split among the servers? Each server will have 1 or 2 assigned to it or there will be a global pool of available support, language dependent?


Each community will have one CM. The support and the support pool is completely separate from us.
We are (usually) not doing any support rather taking care of some marketing stuff, promotional work, collecting feedback, communicate between company and the playerbase, maybe do some PR stuff as well, come up with totally random ideas and torture our colleagues with questions the community want answers from.
So basically yeah, taking care of the community.

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Any expectations for cashshop content news? Will be interesting to see how much stuff is equivalent to a gold package. Maybe will be able to buy enough ap for same price n not have to worry about long CD's :p


No worries, there will be info. I can't tell you yet because of my own lack of information.

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Waiitttttttt..... Is this mean that we can buy the gold package with ingame currency?!... Is this new currency tradable?... :eyeroll:


Yep. And no, you can't trade the currency. It is a value/counter/number in your account. Not an item like the Crucible insignias.

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Will the dates for 3.0 be in line with NA/NCSoft's implementation of 3.0, so as to maintain as much parity as possible?


Yep, that's the plan. We're trying to be on par with any other version.

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3.0 is a /big/ bee in the bonnet for a lot of F2P nay-sayers, and I hate to give them ammunition, but if we have to wait longer for 3.0 while NA gets it at NCSoft's discretion, there will more likely than not be a major revolt of Vets/Gold players.


There might be slight delays and clarifications needed but we are trying and will release 3.0 as soon as possible and during the same time NA does. Not sure how long you are waiting for 3.0 since 2.7 got released in October 2011 as far as I can remember. Any dates for 3.0 release in Korea in your mind? I saw a live demonstration of the housings when some of the developers visited our headquarters and in my eyes, it needs some improvements (I've found it pretty laggy) but maybe it was just the terrible connection.

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 04:05 PM

Thx for answering.

One thing I'm curious now with this 'can buy the gold package with ingame currency'. This sounds funny, but am I still able to pay 'the old way' e.g. paysafe, creditcard etc ?

It would help very much, if you could post an updated FAQ on your website. Here in this (and other) threads are tons of usefull information and difficult to access/find.

So Zoe is defeated, well you do your job pretty good so was just asking.
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 04:27 PM

Are there gonna be greek, italian and spanish servers? Some of the players from those countries are a serious issue on global chat on some servers. For example Telemachus is haunted with greek spam leading to flame wars every single evening. Lately they also got some italian spammers (Cippino, etc) so I guess those people that don't seem to understand how to use custom channels really would need (and love) their own server.
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 04:39 PM

Just make 1 server for all nonenglish speaking people and call it Derpmachlos

Add hacks to ingame cash shop, 10 Euro's invis hack etc,
You will make enough money to give all other EU players a totally free experience.

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 06:53 PM

View PostRastekkel, on 12 January 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

Just make 1 server for all nonenglish speaking people and call it Derpmachlos

Add hacks to ingame cash shop, 10 Euro's invis hack etc,
You will make enough money to give all other EU players a totally free experience.


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Posted 12 January 2012 - 10:08 PM

View PostCMBlackVelvet, on 12 January 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:

Yep, that's the plan. We're trying to be on par with any other version.

There might be slight delays and clarifications needed but we are trying and will release 3.0 as soon as possible and during the same time NA does. Not sure how long you are waiting for 3.0 since 2.7 got released in October 2011 as far as I can remember. Any dates for 3.0 release in Korea in your mind? I saw a live demonstration of the housings when some of the developers visited our headquarters and in my eyes, it needs some improvements (I've found it pretty laggy) but maybe it was just the terrible connection.


Since it was out November 9th, if I remember at worst we were five months behind Korea, so as such I would anticipate it before or on April 9th.

Also, just read this from https://twitter.com/...05357806186498:

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@Aion_Source Just checked - you can claim all of your rewards up until the switchover occurs. So when they become available you should claim


Does this mean you're turning off previously earned Veteran Rewards for all players regardless of status?
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 11:15 PM

View PostDaemion, on 12 January 2012 - 10:08 PM, said:

Does this mean you're turning off previously earned Veteran Rewards for all players regardless of status?



I very sincerely hope not, my alts are baggage handlers, no room to store things possible needed in future!
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 06:37 AM

View PostEctooo, on 12 January 2012 - 11:15 PM, said:

I very sincerely hope not, my alts are baggage handlers, no room to store things possible needed in future!


You can have them sit in your Express mail.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 07:47 AM

Nah, even mails are limited on slots. But i agree on this one,i sure want to have my rewards available for my twinks,whenever i will want to receive them. But i don't think GameForge will just vanish all our rewards, just because they would be too lazy to take over a detail, along with hundreds others...
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 07:55 AM

was in middle of typing exactly that, mail space is crap!

- Can we have upgrade on mailbox size? XD
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 08:38 AM

View PostEctooo, on 13 January 2012 - 07:55 AM, said:

was in middle of typing exactly that, mail space is crap!

- Can we have upgrade on mailbox size? XD


You have 100 mail spaces. Just delete those broker and siege letters in time. Im afraid of more goldseller mails when it goes f2p though.

Oh and what we need is more inventory+warehouse space. :indeed:
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 01:00 PM

Oh, and I just wonder if GameForge also bought the hack detection that NcSoft developed some months ago. Players that have been playing at that time might have noticed the ban wave for North American servers. Players on european server were unaffected on that ban wave, NcSoft only used the tool on NA players.

That ofc makes me wonder what GF will do? Will you keep letting people solo raidbosses using exploits like NcSoft did, or do you have any plans to take care of those people? After all this is a serious problem with your business model. Why would people buy a gold account for EUR 10 if they can buy a cheating tool for $5 and solo all bosses on the free account - and get the same rewards as if they played legit on an gold account?

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 01:02 PM

So NC Soft forces us into something we didn't choose? Effects of this can already be seen on my server legions are starting to fall down, friendslist is becoming grey and Dregion quelists can an hour and more.

Personally I will not give my agreement for this kind off stuff. Having a gold membership I could deal with, but having an INGAME SHOP destroying every bit on RPG atmosphere in this game is a no go. Also not interested in stupid kiddies and people who are just there "to check the game".


Instead of leaving the game the way it was, Aion got dumbed down since NC Soft created the bunch known as NC West instead of just localising it.

So the "new Aion" will have a gold membership and a disturbing ingame shop button?

Thanks for betrying everyone who loyally played Aion during the time being NC Soft, you will never get my money again.

will EU players be able transfering to NA servers?

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 01:07 PM

View PostKehnny, on 13 January 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

So NC Soft forces us into something we didn't choose? Effects of this can already be seen on my server legions are starting to fall down, friendslist is becoming grey and Dregion quelists can an hour and more.

Personally I will not give my agreement for this kind off stuff. Having a gold membership I could deal with, but having an INGAME SHOP destroying every bit on RPG atmosphere in this game is a no go. Also not interested in stupid kiddies and people who are just there "to check the game".


Instead of leaving the game the way it was, Aion got dumbed down since NC Soft created the bunch known as NC West instead of just localising it.

So the "new Aion" will have a gold membership and a disturbing ingame shop button?

Thanks for betrying everyone who loyally played Aion during the time being NC Soft, you will never get my money again.


What led you to that conclusion? The screenshot from some random private server?

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will EU players be able transfering to NA servers?


No.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 01:25 PM

View PostMostly, on 13 January 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

What led you to that conclusion? The screenshot from some random private server?



No.


No I thought it would be something a company at least giving something about their customers would be doing. Heck, even Mythic did it after they took over from GOA.

Instead of letting us play the game we signed up for they are forcing us into something we didn't sign up for I cant be the only one thinking, thats fail from top to bottom.

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We can't edit quests or content at our will. We (sadly) rely on development from Korea. The process on suggesting new stuff and changes however looks good. We got asked about opinions and suggestions of their content ideas and they asked for feedback a lot. Same goes for general atmosphere and how the community currently feels.
It will be hard to fully adjust the game to western play styles a.k.a. "Y U NO GRIND"-less content since majority is still Asian playstyle and their game in the end. But we are on it.


See and thats exactly why most people will not give you an agreement. If people don't want grind and therefore everything on a silver table without putting in an effort, they have other games to choose.

People who like east playstyle don't have much and yet the new publishers comes in and talks about dumbing it down even more...jesus.

I love asian playstyle.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 04:16 PM

View PostKehnny, on 13 January 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

If people don't want grind and therefore everything on a silver table without putting in an effort, they have other games to choose.

Not exactly...
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 07:20 PM

@CMBlackVelvet

Will we get an international server, i am personally from Germany and would like to play with me peeps from UK with an acceptable ping? Oh and maybe any informations on an free server/name change for people that got put on a different server due to nc merging servers would be nice.

Can we please get a way to claim the preorder/collectors editon items after the f2p change.

Also you should consider annoucing how we gonna be able to get the veteran acc after the game goes f2p cous you are loosing a bit of money on people that just buy the game from nc soft and a subscription to get the vet acc.

How will the change work, will we have to download the whole client again or will we get a small patch changing ip's for the servers? Becouse i am on DSL light and that would mean downloading for about 68 hours straight for me.

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