[SethGod]

Fearyy, on 28 January 2012 - 04:18 PM, said:

when exactly did u became so pro ? :S And btw ... the thing with not using mr is nto that much of a deal , its just like dueling sm who is not using fear.. (aka check this forum setys vs bienec ) . Never the less ,i am not much of a fan of those kind of duels .. ppl should be able to use all they want and as razlo said its loads more fun to not be prepared for a fight :S

dno if it's worth getting into details about how bad m.r. can fk up a fight for sin (wolfen has been pointing it our more than enough times on the gladi pvp vid thread about how sin's stuns are magical and not physical) but to answer your first "dilemma"... prolly at the end of summer '11 ...tho u were long gone

[Jinxied]

Sins dont have problems stunning me on 2.3k mres tho

[yoko69]

yea, they can put u in stun but they cant put u in stun & silents togather which means is insta death, so u have time to remove and old tree them or just teleport 30 m ahead

[Wolfen]

Jinxied, on 29 January 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

Sins dont have problems stunning me on 2.3k mres tho

Yes, like pigs don't have problems flying.

Get real, an assassin full attack/crit has around 1.1k maccu (with eternal swords and maccu food) which means that with Oath of Accuracy (which lasts 20 seconds and has a 5 minute CD) he reach 1.6k maccu.
Now, 1.6k maccu against 2.3k mres means that you have 70% chance (plus the default rune fail rate) of resisting an assassin stun, this only when they have Oath of Accuracy on (when it's off, you have more than 100%).

All assassin's stuns are magical, except for Whirlwind Slash (that you can use only during an evasion, which doesn't really happen against a mage class, even then it has a chance to get resisted) or Apply Deadly Poison (which, even if it's magical, has a default chance to land anyway).
So, the only skill that they can use on demand to stun you (with OOA on) is Ambush, which received an maccu bonus (people say that Koreans sins received this maccu bonus on runes aswell, however, it didn't happened here in EU/US) all the other skills have 70/100% chance to get resisted.

This post has been edited by wolfen: 11 February 2012 - 06:22 AM

[Desimp]

Yes, like pigs don't have problems flying.


AHHAHAHAH NICE ONE MENG AHHAHAHAHAH oh srsly u got him so hard right there TROLOLOLOL jinxied will be so damn mad now its like " yes like frank mir doesnt have problems beating brock lesnar cuz of his imba MMA SKILLZ" JAJAJJAJAJA

[Milliardo]

wolfen, on 10 February 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

Yes, like pigs don't have problems flying.

Get real, an assassin full attack/crit has around 1.1k maccu (with eternal swords and maccu food) which means that with Oath of Accuracy (which lasts 20 seconds and has a 5 minute CD) he reach 1.6k maccu.
Now, 1.6k maccu against 2.3k mres means that you have 70% chance (plus the default rune fail rate) of resisting an assassin stun, this only when they have Oath of Accuracy on (when it's off, you have more than 100%).

All assassin's stuns are magical, except for Whirlwind Slash (that you can use only during an evasion, which doesn't really happen against a mage class, even then it has a chance to get resisted) or Apply Deadly Poison (which, even if it's magical, has a default chance to land anyway).
So, the only skill that they can use on demand to stun you (with OOA on) is Ambush, which received an maccu bonus (people say that Koreans sins received this maccu bonus on runes aswell, however, it didn't happened here in EU/US) all the other skills have 70/100% chance to get resisted.

Assassins MA-MR check works a bit differently, but its true what you tell.
I have 2k mr on my cleric+TL stun resist jewelry and its like running with UD.

[Wolfen]

Milliardo, on 11 February 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

Assassins MA-MR check works a bit differently, but its true what you tell.
I have 2k mr on my cleric+TL stun resist jewelry and its like running with UD.

It doesn't (or better, it does, because it has multiple checks, but the default % is the same ma -> mres formula, it just has to land more than once) has been tested lot of times (from me aswell).

This post has been edited by wolfen: 11 February 2012 - 12:43 PM

[Darkirbiska]

SethGod, on 10 January 2012 - 08:09 AM, said:

yes this is nice idea but it makes it overly complicated, since in those 6-7sec of immunity to stun/aerial, after remove-shock animation u got to start wiping resists, make the sin use flash of speed, buff Illusion, buff vaizel, kite some more while trying to stack some debuffs on the sin and finally attempt covered silence or at least a covered root... it's just too time sensitive and when u get aerialed or pain rune stun a general dies in reshanta and inc concern whispers of "wtf u doing, u trading gs?!"

Tbh I figured/found out a lot more stuff after I made the video, but this actually shows the path of "getting there" 'cause I was fast-forwarding thru every concept out there and making necessary adjustments between our session breaks...

Nice vid I enjoyed, about RoC Shingxiao showed this in his vid, he switched from RoF to RoC when he fought vs 2 sins at 8:50 and it worked very nice. It breaks only sleep/tree, I used to play for sin a few months too and I hated RoC on sorcs even with sprinting on, you should try it, it isn't so bad as it looks. I hope you will make next vids.

[Desimp]

sup do u realize that 5 of the sins he is fighting right there dont make as much damage as one overby or half a light?

[SethGod]

Darkirbiska, on 27 February 2012 - 05:06 AM, said:

Nice vid I enjoyed, about RoC Shingxiao showed this in his vid, he switched from RoF to RoC when he fought vs 2 sins at 8:50 and it worked very nice. It breaks only sleep/tree, I used to play for sin a few months too and I hated RoC on sorcs even with sprinting on, you should try it, it isn't so bad as it looks. I hope you will make next vids.

Not gonna get into RoC vs RoF again but if u use RoC u cant use Frost which is (much) more important; I even dropped using Ice Sheet cause of the delay and the overwrite of Frost.

A fight against 1 gg sin is over in under 10sec so besides the fact that xing is resisting and proccing blind gs on those 2 no-name sins, that first one isnt even potting silence :\\

[Desimp]

watch out frand if u tell him all the ppl hes fighting actually suck hard, all the fatass american fanboys sitting at burger king will ally and bully the german nazi just like in WW1 and WW2 hahahah
btw did u know that in america the chairs at mc donalds are double the size of those in germany??

[SethGod]

ROFL good one Joe


yeah rather not comment on ppl's skill level from xing's vids; figured long ago that one can only be as good as the server he plays allows him to and NA servers are

This post has been edited by SethGod: 27 February 2012 - 07:11 AM

[Desimp]

watch out frand if u tell him all the ppl hes fighting actually suck hard, all the fatass american fanboys sitting at burger king will ally and bully the german nazi just like in WW1 and WW2 hahahah
btw did u know that in america the chairs at mc donalds are double the size of those in germany??

[Dezmond]

Desimp, on 27 February 2012 - 06:16 AM, said:

sup do u realize that 5 of the sins he is fighting right there dont make as much damage as one overby or half a light?

The other side of the coin suggests xiao is 2 times better sorc than u

This post has been edited by Dezmond: 27 February 2012 - 07:49 AM

[Yagamy09]

lol im the best and no im not joking they are good sorcs too but im the best

kkthx

[Neeni]

Yagamy09, on 27 February 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

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kkthx

^

[Desimp]

Dezmond, on 27 February 2012 - 07:40 AM, said:

The other side of the coin suggests xiao is 2 times better sorc than u

yes and frank mir also claimed to beat lesnar 99 out of 100 times so what?






mad now?

This post has been edited by Desimp: 27 February 2012 - 11:23 AM

[Yagamy09]

hemad

[Hayabusa]

Yagamy09, on 27 February 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

lol im the best and no im not joking they are good sorcs too but im the best

kkthx

2.7k crit lock-on

come at me bro :||

[Yagamy09]

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