[blizzard1z]

So I'm gonna try a parry build on my gladiator to see how good it works out. This is the stigma build I have in mind :

http://www.aiondatab...7:2038:2031:232

I'm almost finishing a e40 set all +15 and going to socket parry till I hit 2.7k which seems a good number to counter most people's accuracy's (around 2.4k) and drop the rest in crit + HP

I'm just not sure on my weapon choice, if either the Tac Officer's Polearm or Greatsword. I have a very mobile playstyle and I do like the attack speed from the Greatsword, I'm just not sure if the damage output will be good enough.

What are your thoughts on this? Is parry a viable defensive route?

Sorry if this has already been discussed and thank you for your input.

[reflexion]

doesn't matter, mb clerics gets a boots in 3.0 and i saw one 3-4 shotting a glad in 50e >.>

PS: their new dispel remove stuns too

This post has been edited by reflexion: 10 January 2012 - 02:19 PM

[NovaE]

Wtf...

Parry doesn´t work against half of all classes. If you really want to suffer that much Crit/Accu/DMG, then do it for pure TP socketing, but not for Parry...

I thought No,you. and reflexion were trolling, but ahahaha...

Stigmabuild isn´t wrong though.


With new weaps and 3.0 buff you will have like 2.3-2.5 Parry anyways.

[reflexion]

i wasn't trolling though, mb clerics in 3.0 do 3-4 shot glads

[blizzard1z]

I'm not suffering from anything in particular, I can get 2.3k accuracy with 670 crit buffed as well as 2.7k Parry. I'd be only losing roughly 80 attack from an attack oriented set. Parry only doesnt work against cleric/sm/sorc which is 3/8 classes so.. Even with a full attack set, you'd still have trouble against a SM or a Sorc.

About the 3.0 MB Clerics, well nyerk, Sorcs with Glacial shard can 1 hit someone if they crit.

[Indigoy]

blizzard1z, on 10 January 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

Parry only doesnt work against cleric/sm/sorc which is 3/8 classes so.

No decently geared ranger is gonna get passively parried by you and any sin is gonna have oath of accuracy on. So your basically looking at investing a full set of armor just for temps and other glads. That just doesn't seem viable.

[Kimii]

well , we already talkabout this . check this quote from hito

StingerX, on 05 January 2012 - 08:32 AM, said:

i can only repeat my self:

1. me parry 3,4k+
2. assa 2,3k accu
3. two duels á 5mins with healing me

result: 127hits taken, 17parried


i thought parryCap was at 30 or 40% but it seems much lower

but if u still keep parry in ur mind ;
use greatsword , prefer drenium carved
u will need to use defense preparation
u need to socket parry of course , 10 is a minimum
u will miss some kd attack , so remove dual chain . u should just use vengeful strike , and don't forget it didn't work on sm and sorc , and fews times on cleric Hallowed Strike V

[blizzard1z]

A ranger with a tac officers bow and all eternal jewelry has 2.3k accuracy, which is 40% chance of parry for 2.7k. Yes, they have Aiming, but its not like its very used. As for OoA, not many sins use it against glads since they primarly use it for Magical Accuracy and not Accuracy, unless they KNOW I am spec'd for Parry, so. (Not to mention the 5 minute cooldown)

[Kimii]

give us ur name , we will check ur gear and stigmas .

blizzard1z, on 10 January 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

A ranger with a tac officers bow and all eternal jewelry has 2.3k accuracy, which is 40% chance of parry for 2.7k. Yes, they have Aiming, but its not like its very used. As for OoA, not many sins use it against glads since they primarly use it for Magical Accuracy and not Accuracy, unless they KNOW I am spec'd for Parry, so. (Not to mention the 5 minute cooldown)

ecto , plz explain him how it works , u do it better than me

[Ecto]

Why, you kinda already did with hito's quote. All this parry talk is pretty much nonsense now, gotta wait 3.0 to see if maths/base stats/soft n hard cap changes.

[NovaE]

Kimii, on 10 January 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

well , we already talkabout this . check this quote from hito



but if u still keep parry in ur mind ;
use greatsword , prefer drenium carved
u will need to use defense preparation
u need to socket parry of course , 10 is a minimum
u will miss some kd attack , so remove dual chain . u should just use vengeful strike , and don't forget it didn't work on sm and sorc , and fews times on cleric Hallowed Strike V

Actually prefering KD skills over Sharp/Vicious is like limitating yourself on DMG... still don´t know how so many didn´t get this yet and Crippling is also static like Vicious. The great difference is you can use DW chain, full or not - FREELY without interruption, more often.

Also there will be always 2 free KD skills anyway.


Def Prep? Back then people heavily trolled about this and such, now theyself think about doing a Parry build or how to handicap theirself and such... is that a bad dream?

This post has been edited by NovaE: 11 January 2012 - 05:20 AM

[Kimii]

actually it's a bad dream , we should wait and see if 3.0 change mechanics of parry .

[blizzard1z]

I am not however thinking of using defense preparation, I'm still gonna use Slaughter. I'm trying to create a balance between the defense of parry and offensive skills of dw chain and parry triggers.

This is just something I want to test out, it's not like if it doesn't work I'm going to blindly stick to it. I like to meddle around with different, little used builds. Sometimes there are quite nice surprises.

And I'll state it again, I'm not losing anything besides the "cookie cutter" stigma build and attack manastones socketing. Crit and Accuracy are balanced out.

[No,you.]

What's wrong in having several sets ? A parry set could be great but :

- need to slot the parry buff stigma so lol
- def prep ? I'd rather add moar parry than using that nyerk
- aion mechanics are bad, 3.0 add moar bad mechanics so I won't keep my game up to date even when it'll be F2P so I won't test such a build ... unless I'm nyerkING MOTHERnyerkING BORED AND DRUNK
- vicious blow is a stupid skill, it's really nice if you want to loose some distance or if you're fighting baddies.
- CC is cool since it's a part of an almost instant BURST WHERE THE TARGET CAN'T HEAL ITSELF OR MOVE AWAY. DB -> CC -> Weave -> FinalStrike >>>>>>> all you can do with vicious blow, unless you think loosing distance is great.

But I dunno why I'm posting that since only good moving players will understand, but I mean the real ones, that's like 2% of the people here, but 98% think they're good and skilled

[NovaE]

No,you., on 11 January 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

What's wrong in having several sets ? A parry set could be great but :

- need to slot the parry buff stigma so lol
- def prep ? I'd rather add moar parry than using that nyerk
- aion mechanics are bad, 3.0 add moar bad mechanics so I won't keep my game up to date even when it'll be F2P so I won't test such a build ... unless I'm nyerkING MOTHERnyerkING BORED AND DRUNK
- vicious blow is a stupid skill, it's really nice if you want to loose some distance or if you're fighting baddies.
- CC is cool since it's a part of an almost instant BURST WHERE THE TARGET CAN'T HEAL ITSELF OR MOVE AWAY. DB -> CC -> Weave -> FinalStrike >>>>>>> all you can do with vicious blow, unless you think loosing distance is great.

But I dunno why I'm posting that since only good moving players will understand, but I mean the real ones, that's like 2% of the people here, but 98% think they're good and skilled

Nothing wrong, but there was a time where a player would get flametrolled when only mention the word parry. Just wondered what´s happening atm... is it just because of the new leech skill?

Btw, at the same time I could say that you are so clueless that you can´t see that Sharp Chain(talking about full chain now) is exactly the same as Draining + Crippling on a knockdown(both need to stand still for a sec on 2. skill), BUT Sharp Chain can´t be interrupted through late reaction OR Remove Shock + more availability AND you can use it different also.

So don´t tell me you´re more flexible with Crapling Cut and Draining Flop. It would be just an excuse for not beeing able to try something different.

Also I could say YOU are fighting baddies, if you get out your oh so cool high cooldown kd combo on your enemies, because they don´t know that something like Remove Shock exists.

This post has been edited by NovaE: 11 January 2012 - 10:28 AM

[No,you.]

Thanks for proving my last sentence is right.

[StingerX]

go fill jotun set with parry27s

[reflexion]

StingerX, on 11 January 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:

go fill jotun set with parry27s

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