[Mikuni]

Hi,

Following the success of my popular meter application, I've been thinking about maybe making a sepparate application dedicated solely to catching hackers/cheaters. There is currently some code in the meter dedicated to this (some is off atm in the current build), but it's very limited so that the program stays within safety procedures that don't violate the Aion EULA/terms of use.

Through a separate application it would be possible to catch a whole bigger range of hackers with near 100% accuracy, including glidehack, teleports, no-animation, speed increase, auto-pot and others. Now the issue with this, is that it would rely on directly reading into the client process memory/network data, the same way radar hack and other applications in every mmo out there work.

Given enough interest in this, and keeping in mind you'd be directly breaking the EULA (while still not letting you cheat in any form, no radar map or anything of the sorts), I might start working on something. Would you be willing to use it? Please vote

~ I would develop it with a private Aion server, then pick the memory offsets every patch from dissasembling other hack applications like AionScript.

Edit: Decided to keep this project off the public. If/when I get something working, I'll just share with GF/NC.

This post has been edited by Mikuni: 06 April 2012 - 05:32 PM

[Xathiann]

confused, wouldn't people that hack not use this and then the point of the app would be useless?

[Mikuni]

Xathiann, on 13 March 2012 - 05:41 AM, said:

confused, wouldn't people that hack not use this and then the point of the app would be useless?

It's not for the hackers, but any other user. It would directly analyze the incoming data like player location changes and sequences of attacks etc.

[Mat-Spatalos]

If GF allowed such an application, and would accept readings as proof, it would be amazing. We can all be policemen

[Mikuni]

They wouldn't approve cause it'd be directly breaking the terms of use by using similar methodology as radar hacks, it'd be mostly for yourself.

This post has been edited by Mikuni: 13 March 2012 - 05:58 AM

[No,you.]

Do it and sell it to GF >_>

[Mikuni]

No,you., on 13 March 2012 - 05:58 AM, said:

Do it and sell it to GF >_>

Pretty sure they can do themselves, it's pretty easy with an experienced programmer and some good knowledge of the windows api, just takes some analyzing of data.

NC could have also done this server-side even more easily (seriously.. people looting ESO chests without killing the boss, impossible player location changes, fake data sent to server..), I guess they just didn't put any resources into that cause they rely on gameguard in Korea, so they don't really care about external publishers leasing their game, they still pay them the same.

This post has been edited by Mikuni: 13 March 2012 - 06:02 AM

[Xathiann]

Mikuni, on 13 March 2012 - 05:52 AM, said:

It's not for the hackers, but any other user. It would directly analyze the incoming data like player location changes and sequences of attacks etc.

i'd be for a program that detects and helps get rid of hackers, but the part about sequence of attacks, would it be able to tell if the opponent was just weaving, as some people seem to think they died to hax when they check damage logs and see AA's inbetween with no animations :P

[.Rast]

If you can get this accurate, and not false-flag people weaving or who have lag spikes or w/e, then yeah sure

[No,you.]

Mikuni, on 13 March 2012 - 06:02 AM, said:

Pretty sure they can do themselves

=/=

Mikuni, on 13 March 2012 - 06:02 AM, said:

it's pretty easy with an experienced programmer and some good knowledge of the windows api, just takes some analyzing of data.

Edit : a trolling friend just said that to me : I don't need such a program, I can detect hackers easily, if they kill me, they're hacking

This post has been edited by No,you.: 13 March 2012 - 06:33 AM

[Jacky444]

LoL, perhaps gameforge has noo experianced programers, so making this for them and asking them to use it (if u include source so they know they're safe) it would be really anti-cheaters servers !

Great idea, I support it 100%.

[Surfass]

Would be nice.

[Kyoai]

100% support for this.

However i'd suggest talking to NCwest and Gameforge about this and send them the program so they can see its not harming the game but help finding out who is cheating.
Just like they did not support but silently accept DPS-meters they might also accept the use of a program that helps players itentifying cheaters.

Who knows, maybe, if the program is really well done, the GMs might use it themselves or could even use it on their servers (so the server checks for suspicious data/packets) as an alternative to gameguard so players won't have to use it. ^^

[Grayy]

Amateur vigilantism at its best.

[Mashikumokosis]

[SMareOP]

F2P game nothing but hackers GL hahahaha

[Milliardo]

Ok, I detected a hacker, now what?
You still need GF to ban them and those goldsellers... :/

[tamagoyaki]

you name and shame. then you get your own hax.

[reflexion]

OP must of read the manga of Yureka

[Raiya]

Might be worth trying it out seems to be alot of hacking goin on atm mainly laghacks (you have 40ms and sleep/silence a target 1st yet they get sleepstorm/sleep arrow etc off anyways).