[Maurin]

wolfen, on 17 April 2012 - 04:12 AM, said:

Why the Crucible L60 cond 2 has the same PvP def of the L55?
Can you upgrade the L55 to the L60?
What do you lose (in stats of the armor)/keep? (enchant? manastones?)
How much does it cost to upgrade it?
How much the L60 costs without upgrading it?

a) I don't really know. Thats the value I calculated from my screenshots.
b) I need to login to check it. I think there was a way to upgrade, but I
can't remember if that was cond1 to cond2 or L55 to L60...
c) I can't test it. I have no Crucible gear on the cleric.
d) and e) see b)

[aga123]

BscBMD997, on 17 April 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

hmm...ok then any ideas what level of enchantment stones to use for level 60 EC (PVP) armour/weapons?

I read on forum alot just spam lvl 73~lvl 87 stones on 55 eternal gears. But thats 2.7. So lvl 60 EC (PVP) armour/weapons = 95~100?

You sir are amazing at math.

You said people used lvl73-87 on lvl55 eternals, yet on lvl60 eternal you suggest lvl95-100. I hope for the sake of your remaining life you understand why your math is so bad.

[Wolfen]

Maurin, on 18 April 2012 - 04:15 AM, said:

a) I don't really know. Thats the value I calculated from my screenshots.
b) I need to login to check it. I think there was a way to upgrade, but I
can't remember if that was cond1 to cond2 or L55 to L60...
c) I can't test it. I have no Crucible gear on the cleric.
d) and e) see b)

Thanks.

[lleuwelyn]

Maurin, on 16 April 2012 - 05:44 AM, said:

Just some info:
Crucible L60 cond 2 - pvp def 22.6%
Abyss L60 elite/cond2 - pvp def 20.5%

For abyss the pvp def is fixed for all armor types. However for Crucible the pvp
def is increased for cloth and leather compared to chain/plate.

I can't test it myself. The L56 cleric I got to play has no medals. I read
that the exchange rate is 4-5:1 (using ap) or 6-7:1 (without).

i hope you are not serious on this one.. why would cloth need more pvp def in arenas?

[Maurin]

lleuwelyn, on 20 April 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

i hope you are not serious on this one.. why would cloth need more pvp def in arenas?

It's even so now. L55 cond2 has also 22.6% pvp def. Wolfen already mentioned it and
I checked it with my SM.

To add that: Plate crucible has 21.6% pvp def. I have no clue why leather and cloth
got a bonus of 1% compared to plate/chain or why crucible armor has a better pvp def
than abyss armor.

[Nord_bg]

the day I hit lvl 60 will get full lvl 60 crucible pvp gear cond 2. Not sure what stones will slot yet but probably MR+HP, as point is to reach 2.5k MR with ele ward and 10k hp.
Then will go for one of thisGuardian Captain's Hexbookor Elite Guardian Captain's Tome and will merge with Master Carved Darkwater Tome.
master carved still got best extra stats and getting miracle weps like this Tartar is not option for me.
Think lvl 90-95 enchantment stones gona work well.

EC for PvE set is good enough and don't think that gona change it just to get 50 more mb

This post has been edited by Nord_bg: 20 April 2012 - 06:30 AM

[Szim]

Well, also tome for kahrun marks left. It's a good tome after all. It has 26 mb, 16 m acc and 42 hp more then master carved. It's just lacking spell crit, which is not a big deal. Merging it with abyss 60e is not really a bad idea.

But getting 1435 marks probably would take ages.



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Anyway, i'll probably go for tomes which Nord_bg mentioned. Just need ToS for my 2x master carved tomes

This post has been edited by Szim: 20 April 2012 - 09:50 AM

[BscBMD997]

aga123, on 18 April 2012 - 07:03 AM, said:

You sir are amazing at math.

You said people used lvl73-87 on lvl55 eternals, yet on lvl60 eternal you suggest lvl95-100. I hope for the sake of your remaining life you understand why your math is so bad.

73 was a typo error. its 83~87 spamming on 55 eternals. They also claimed that the use of lesser supplements were waste of kinah too.

Besides, I m asking questions. Not suggesting. I merely read or heresay from those who got their armours/weapons to +10 or higher. And merely quoted what they told me about their level of enchantment stones they used.

If you have something constructive to contribute. I m all ears.

So in your opinion, what stones would you have used?

This post has been edited by BscBMD997: 21 April 2012 - 07:41 PM

[aga123]

Most people use stones around lvl90 for 55 eternals, so what's 90 + 5?

[Knivez10]

The best PvE set would prolly be the Siel's Forgotten Cloth Set. Its the highest crit bounus on any armor set with decent HP and sufficient MP. Only drawback is the set doesn't have MA bonus but that shouldn't be a problem if you have a decent weapon. With Noble Tac orb and 60 abyss accessories it should be possible to get around 250~300 spell crit, which will tremendously help MP recovery. MP is one of the main factors that constrict a sorc'd dps in PvE group setting.

As for PvP the Elite Guardian Commander's Divine Armor seems very nice. However, i hear that there is rank restriction, so dunno if its really worth investing on.

[MissJupiter]

Kyoai, on 17 April 2012 - 04:18 AM, said:

I think the korean developers later increased the success rate of the fountain with a mini patch, i dont know if the russians and NA got that mini patch (if i remember correctly that there really was a mini patch, of course).

A friend and me were looking through the korean forums like 3 weeks ago about any info about the success rate and the koreans say the success rate of the normal fountains is about 20~25% while the 1.5kAP-fountain has a 25~30% chance of getting 1~4 mitrill medals.

are you sure its true ? <.< did many korean try to trade and confirm that % since ?

This post has been edited by MissJupiter: 13 May 2012 - 02:45 PM

[Mikuni]

BscBMD997, on 17 April 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

hmm...ok then any ideas what level of enchantment stones to use for level 60 EC (PVP) armour/weapons?

I read on forum alot just spam lvl 73~lvl 87 stones on 55 eternal gears. But thats 2.7. So lvl 60 EC (PVP) armour/weapons = 95~100?

L100 for 80% chance according to russian GM tests on 60 eternal.