[Ecto]

Yo, can start us off two, both from Japan:

First Guy: Amesan;

seems to play pretty well has a stream as well on twitch (avaialable @ http://www.twitch.tv/amesan123). Pretty happy to chat to people in the spambox as well, was answering some questions last night about gear etc...

Youtube Video:

The new aoe is spammed several times throughout the video, notable at 1:20 in you can see it hitting some mobs and other players. Looks nice.





Second Guy; Nameless Japper;

Youtube Video:

The new aoe again features heavily in this video. As far as I can tell the final part of the chain hits the spiritmaster for 3159 damage around 5 minutes and 10 seconds in:




Third Guy; Gladi dude; (courtesy of Mecha on page 2 of this thread)




PS - Been told by a few people that its 6 targets for all 4 parts of the chain. Could someone from NA servers confirm this?

Enjoy the vids, and I wanna see more so post post

This post has been edited by Ectooo: 14 May 2012 - 04:26 AM

[SpiritOfChaos]

holy crap. 3k aoe Oo

[No,you.]

SpiritOfChaos, on 24 April 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

holy crap. 3k aoe Oo

OH MY GOD A 3K AOE IT'S INCREDIB- .. wait, asmodians hits for 3.5 with Piercing rupture since 1.9

[Surfass]

Great, but bakarma? :|

[OdyneSlice]

That aoe seems realy good tbh, but theres 1 thing i m interested in..
If its a stigma it means theres no space for me to put ankle snare(since i dont use it .. sharp strike/rupture > ankle snare cuz every1 resists it) SO, unless they boosted ankle snare's land rate in macc theres no point to put it in so my question is to NA players ..
Is Ankle snare land rate boosted? (see if u can test it on 1.7-2k+ mr if some1 has spare time :P)

[StingerX]

ofc extend. what else?

[No,you.]

OdyneSlice, on 24 April 2012 - 11:51 PM, said:

That aoe seems realy good tbh, but theres 1 thing i m interested in..
If its a stigma it means theres no space for me to put ankle snare(since i dont use it .. sharp strike/rupture > ankle snare cuz every1 resists it) SO, unless they boosted ankle snare's land rate in macc theres no point to put it in so my question is to NA players ..
Is Ankle snare land rate boosted? (see if u can test it on 1.7-2k+ mr if some1 has spare time :P)

I don't use Ankle snare since like 6 months+

There are no M.acc boost on AS, at least in the Kr patchnotes, but as you can see in the viodeos, the skill "ball" is now red instead of green.


But I still don't see the use of a 2min CD skill that get resisted at least 1/2 and that every single class but one, the SM ( wait, the Earth Spirit can dispell it ? ) can dispell.

[Ecto]

For me, even with tac officer weapon (read: 1401 M.acc) ankle snare lands less than 50% on standard cloth users (ie, mbooost/macc/hp stacked, no mres manastone needed). So forgot it for all above that. I run it sometimes in openworld but prefer sharp/absorbing fury/tendon at the moment.

Edit: Whoever said about the new aoe taking up a stigma slot - So far as I know we get 1 more stigma slot in 3.0 too! So for pvp, free new woop-ass aoe chain, and for PVE, full dual wield tree + beserking should now be doable/

This post has been edited by Ectooo: 25 April 2012 - 02:27 AM

[Surfass]

I don't think bakarma is so useful anymore, I don't such DPS as that guys, and I'm having full ABG jewels. So I can only conclude that he is pwning low gear people.
Atm glad with abg spear +10 and such do 30% more damage than me.
Example:
me: Crit piercing rupture 2.5k MAX
55 eternal pole: Crit piercing rupture 3,6k (dunno if it's max) But I got this more than 1time.

So when you can just 3 shot people, kinda pointless to keep using bakarma I guess.

[Ecto]

Surfass, on 25 April 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

I don't think bakarma is so useful anymore, I don't such DPS as that guys, and I'm having full ABG jewels. So I can only conclude that he is pwning low gear people.
Atm glad with abg spear +10 and such do 30% more damage than me.
Example:
me: Crit piercing rupture 2.5k MAX
55 eternal pole: Crit piercing rupture 3,6k (dunno if it's max) But I got this more than 1time.

So when you can just 3 shot people, kinda pointless to keep using bakarma I guess.

Me n rinnie tested this for well over an hour one night whilst talking nyerk to each other. Taking it in turns to to ferocity+beserking final strike on each other. At the end my higher hit with +15 11% pvp bonus weapon was 3560ish and his biggest bit was 3490 with +15 bakarma spear. Aka, for skill damage there really seems to be F*CK all difference. This sort of maakes sense, at the end of the day i had 180 more attack than him in slaughter, so i'd expect that to translate roughly in 70 to 100 pvp damage, rng dependent.

This post has been edited by Ectooo: 25 April 2012 - 08:29 AM

[Deliq]

Ectooo, on 24 April 2012 - 08:17 AM, said:

The new aoe again features heavily in this video. As far as I can tell the final part of the chain hits the spiritmaster for 3159 damage around 5 minutes and 10 seconds in:

Oh really? All I saw was this:



Crit 1252 and noncrit 1061 with berserk and ferocity on.

So where is that wtf damage you were talking about? OR are you gonna rely on FOURTH part of a skill chain to deal damage? You realize that in 1v1 situation one focused evasion ruins your day? Or just a little bit of kiting...

Also those massive heals that everybody talked about is 20% and 20% out of 1000 damage is 200. You might as well turn on stamina recovery for better "burst heal".

EDIT: Almost forgot - this whole AWESOME THING has only 2 MINUTES COOLDOWN.

This post has been edited by Deliq: 25 April 2012 - 12:58 PM

[Ecto]

Deliq, on 25 April 2012 - 12:55 PM, said:

Oh really? All I saw was this:



Crit 1252 and noncrit 1061 with berserk and ferocity on.

So where is that wtf damage you were talking about? OR are you gonna rely on FOURTH part of a skill chain to deal damage? You realize that in 1v1 situation one focused evasion ruins your day day? Or just a little bit of kiting...

Also those massive heals that everybody talked about is 20% and 20% out of 1000 damage is 200. You might as well turn on stamina recovery for better "burst heal".

EDIT: Almost forgot - this whole AWESOME THING has only 2 MINUTES COOLDOWN.

FFS who let deliq out of his cot again?

And meh, i know i should of learned not to argue with such a moron by now, but any sin or ranger is more than welcome to use FE to break this chain, just means he wont breaking ferocious so quickly.

lol 3rd edit required: Watch the video before making fool of yourself, no ferocity at all. Meh you aint gonna learn, might as well ignore

This post has been edited by Ectooo: 25 April 2012 - 01:09 PM

[PowerSauce]

Surfass, on 25 April 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

Atm glad with abg spear +10 and such do 30% more damage than me.

Bro-maths

Rly I have +15 zapiels/40E and +11 master noble with 11% pvp dmg.
If my master noble does 30% more damage in pvp I'll wear a pink tutu every time I go out from now on.

Srsly though. It doesn't.

Also I'm really liking that new skillchain.
But these vids should really have some nyerking duels vs skilled guys instead of this ganking/world pvp

This post has been edited by PowerSauce: 25 April 2012 - 01:18 PM

[Ecto]

PowerSauce, on 25 April 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

Bro-maths

Rly I have +15 zapiels/40E and +11 master noble with 11% pvp dmg.
If my master noble does 30% more damage in pvp I'll wear a pink tutu every time I go out from now on.

Srsly though. It doesn't.

Also I'm really liking that new skillchain.
But these vids should really have some nyerking duels vs skilled guys instead of this ganking/world pvp

The guy actually talks to people in chat box at stream, went n pulled 6 mobs n counter out loud how mamny targets the aoe hit, 6 for sho brah but yea, ask him to do some duels, maybe he will

[Deliq]

Ectooo, on 25 April 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

Watch the video before making fool of yourself, no ferocity at all. Meh you aint gonna learn, might as well ignore

Where do you think I took the screen, pulled it out of my ass? Its right at the beginning of the second video at around 0:15 or so.

Anyway here you got some comparison so you understand better:



Siegebreaker deals 0 bonus damage, so to know how much bonus damage other skills deal you just gotta substract 16 from the lower damage value of the skill (16-20 = unarmed damage). So here you go:

Exhausting Wave +50 attack
Revival Wave +795 attack
Piercing Rupture 2 +1163 attack

Now divite it by 2 due to pvp penalties and you get...

OH WOW +25 DAMAGE ABILITY THATS GONNA BE SOME SERIOUS CARNAGE (you would hit for more with autoattack if you procced some additional strikes btw)

[Surfass]

I was thinking same way, until when dueling gwalchmei he did 3,6k piercing rupture 2k cleave + 2,4k great cleave with berserking no ferocity or any DP.

He got abg +10 with arena pvp combine.

Me with bakarma +15 + 50e I can't and never happened to do any damage like this with berserking only.

So what's the reason for guy with ABG +10 deal so much damage on a guy with full ABG like me? my PvP def bugged?

This post has been edited by Surfass: 25 April 2012 - 02:25 PM

[No,you.]

Jesus,



That because of your REAL atk, I mean the "white atk" stat aka : [(weapon min dmg + weapon max dmg)/2] + fusion bonus + enchant ( x 1.X, the atk passive + weapon mastery passive )


That atk is modified by buffs like zerk, ferocity, DPS, word of inspiration, etc


This "base atk", like I like to call it, is the core of your final damages. If someone has +100 base atk than you, when you add zerk, the "moving forward bonus", this +100 is already a +190, that's why they hit much harder.

( and that also why slotting atk is retarded )


But it still not beat weaving with an extendable at 6+ meters in the end
Btw, I advice you to have both weapons in 3.0, like an ET lv 60 weapon ( blind?) AND your bakarma (silence?), and switch wisely.

Aion 1.5 mechanics

Edit : oh and in the end it's a bit more complicated if you want to know you whole damage range you have to take your minimum dmg and max and redo the 3years old maths

Also, you just have to add the skill tooltip ( without weapon ) if you want to know your damages with each skills ( you will find exactly your skill tooltip ( whith weapon equiped ) if you did it right )

This post has been edited by No,you.: 26 April 2012 - 01:41 AM

[StingerX]

u expect DeliQ to do his math as intended? i pity you fool!

[Mihomine]

StingerX, on 26 April 2012 - 02:54 AM, said:

u expect DeliQ to do his math as intended? i pity you fool!

[No,you.]

You're mean with No,You.