[Slash2n]

hard to silence, hard to fear...

This post has been edited by Slash2n: 03 August 2012 - 03:00 PM

[daggeroya]

That sm is completely noob, spamming dispel buffs&dots randomly, he cant even fearlock after landing instant fear...


Now tell us you are trolling plz.

[Slash2n]

daggeroya, on 03 August 2012 - 01:11 AM, said:

That sm is completely noob, spamming dispel buffs&dots randomly, he cant even fearlock after landing instant fear...


Now tell us you are trolling plz.

the part with fearlock is true but dispels are to cover silence, only the cleric is too good...

This post has been edited by Slash2n: 03 August 2012 - 01:46 AM

[daggeroya]

Slash2n, on 03 August 2012 - 01:29 AM, said:

the part with fearlock is true but dispells are to cover silence, only the cleric is too good...

If some cleric get a protected silence in that way is his own fault,spam dispel do not require much skill. The sm should cast fear and cancel it in order to make the cleric glide, then dispel his buffs/scrolls and instant fear/root/fearlock. Playing in so predictable way doesnt make the cleric pro,he had plenty of time to glide.

This post has been edited by daggeroya: 03 August 2012 - 02:07 AM

[Slash2n]

scrolls are undispellable here and to kill a full hp cleric in 1 fearlock u need either magic crit, either a MB set. also cleric shouldnt be near of healing servant and yes, this cleric require tricks to be feared and silenced which make him very good

[daggeroya]

Slash2n, on 03 August 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

scrolls are undispellable here and to kill a full hp cleric in 1 fearlock u need either magic crit, either a MB set. also cleric shouldnt be near of healing servant and yes, this cleric require tricks to be feared and silenced which make him very good

Dont know about customized p.servers but it seems we have diferent standars of "very good". For me,a cleric spamming dispel and gliding random fears from bad sm its totally normal. Also if the cleric use hp why the sm should not use full mb set?

[Slash2n]

daggeroya, on 03 August 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:

Dont know about customized p.servers but it seems we have diferent standars of "very good". For me,a cleric spamming dispel and gliding random fears from bad sm its totally normal. Also if the cleric use hp why the sm should not use full mb set?

eh, cuz i dont have a MB set yet! i bought the same set and then is this problem: http://www.aionsourc...the-exact-name/ however, with MB set u wont resist cleric energies which do huge dmg

[iAmGhost]

meh sm vs cleric is always more difficult for sm. i think they'll gladly accept any help they can get ;D

[sooteh]

youre just a nyerk sm dude, failing to fearlock WITH INSTANT FEAR

then saying the cleric is pro cus he can dispel 2 debuffs before you use silence?

[Edgeliver]

sooteh, on 03 August 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

youre just a nyerk sm dude, failing to fearlock WITH INSTANT FEAR

then saying the cleric is pro cus he can dispel 2 debuffs before you use silence?

This ^^

The SM is just spamming without a clue skills, failing with instfear and relying on MR.

This video is an example why people rage about SM. This SM is bad and still mangages to pull of a win...

[Slash2n]

i couldnt post a vid where i kill by fearlock. so gtfo

[sooteh]

Slash2n, on 04 August 2012 - 02:00 AM, said:

i couldnt post a vid where i kill by fearlock. so gtfo

so you cant fearlock with insta fear? proves everything. even the cleric in the vid flamed you

[Slash2n]

the video wants to show pvp balance vs SM, not a pro fearlocker

[sooteh]

this doesnt show anything about balance since u cant play ur class...

if a sorc were spamming flamebolt vs a cleric who can play, people might aswell say cleric>sorc

[Dezma66]

This show that SM can't kill whitout fearlock and on the other hand fearlock is what make ppl ragequit
However, if cleric were killed in fearlock then wouldn't be any pro title for that cleric, and if SM would kill by fearlock then would be nothing to see

[Alyzia]

Dezma66, on 20 August 2012 - 07:07 AM, said:

This show that SM can't kill whitout fearlock and on the other hand fearlock is what make ppl ragequit
However, if cleric were killed in fearlock then wouldn't be any pro title for that cleric, and if SM would kill by fearlock then would be nothing to see

No, this only shows a semi-bad SM not canceling his fears in order for the cleric to waste his glide CD. On the contrary, a good cleric CAN NOT BE KILLED by SM unless he's feared (or you're lucky with godstones), as he will dispel everything immediately. Only skilled clerics & sorcs require fears, nothing else.

[Slash2n]

Alyzia, on 21 August 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

No, this only shows a semi-bad SM not canceling his fears in order for the cleric to waste his glide CD. On the contrary, a good cleric CAN NOT BE KILLED by SM unless he's feared (or you're lucky with godstones), as he will dispel everything immediately. Only skilled clerics & sorcs require fears, nothing else.

my 3rd post here: "yes, this cleric require tricks to be feared and silenced"

"Only skilled clerics & sorcs require fears"... i bet u that u need to fear simca and i also can show u skilled sins and glads and templars which u need to fear. i saw simca, 3 jump shoot in a row; full buffed sin can't be killed without insta fear; skilled temp or glad who know to wave/aac can kill u in half of a sec. but sorcs, can be killed without fear if u use MR set and know to (lol) dispell theyr MA buff because they need MA set and with MA set cant kill u in 1 combo, well.. only if they crit with inferno or another powerfull skill!

[Alyzia]

Slash2n, on 22 August 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:

my 3rd post here: "yes, this cleric require tricks to be feared and silenced"

"Only skilled clerics & sorcs require fears"... i bet u that u need to fear simca and i also can show u skilled sins and glads and templars which u need to fear. i saw simca, 3 jump shoot in a row; full buffed sin can't be killed without insta fear; skilled temp or glad who know to wave/aac can kill u in half of a sec. but sorcs, can be killed without fear if u use MR set and know to (lol) dispell theyr MA buff because they need MA set and with MA set cant kill u in 1 combo, well.. only if they crit with inferno or another powerfull skill!

Based from my experience, I've never had troubles with rangers, sins, glads or templars without fear. But then again, I've never really met any good people of those classes (Could be counted on one hand). I'd expect a skilled and GG assassin to be unbeatable against SM, since we can't do much against stun -> silence -> 3k dps with proper weaving. Seeing how the react time from realizing you're attacked (unless you play with sound ofc, which I tend to ignore in favor of loud music) realizing you need to use anti-stun through silence, pot silence and THEN begin to dispel his AT & FA, which will be properly covered if he's pre-buffed correctly, I see slim chances to survive.

Regarding glads, rangers, sorcs, other SM's, chanters & temps, I believe that most of them don't require fear. But that really comes down how good they are, and what their ping & gear is...

And SM vs. SM is just 'meh'... Depends on who gets instant first really :| I prefer not to use fear against my opponents, but in SMvSM cases, you are almost 100% certain that the other guy will, and he can pretty much destroy you with that. Especially if he's a lucky bastard that procs silence GS 3 times in a row (Yes, this happens a lot ). Same thing goes vs. sorc, who covers silence first or CC first will win. Only exception is, that he will kill you in 4 secs instead of 25 :P

This post has been edited by Alyzia: 24 August 2012 - 03:46 AM

[Slash2n]

sins that gank u full buffed are the hardest. if u fail insta fear, ure pretty much dead. in 3.0 pvp gear with magic suppression make huge difference to magic dmg and, without fear, u need about 30sec or more to kill a target (cuz they heal with pots and buffs) and sins can kill u in 3sec only with autoattack

[Slash2n]

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