[tpg0007]

We can now confirm that the lv50 Daevonian Armor/Weapon set can be obtained by a single character. The quest is divided into several stages, with 5 of them giving you a piece of armor and then the final stage giving you a weapon (don't think you can get more than 1 weapon).

For EACH stage of the quest you have to buy some expensive vendor items, the total cost of which is roughly 35 mil. This is a set cost that won't change except due to racial influence.

In addition to the vendor items, one stage requires you to critical on a skill level 449 item, which is the Craft: Heart of Magic - Recipes - Aion available to all professions. Note that you need a critical, not the normal product. This is the costliest stage, because the required Balaur ingredients are needed for a lot of things. Based on the average price on 3 Korean severs people have calculated that the average cost for each attempt at critical is around 25 mil.

So if you're really luck, and critical on the first attempt, the entire Daevonian quest series will cost you 60 mil. An entire set of lv50 crafted gold armor/weapon will probably cost more than this amount.


To quell some of the more senseless comments I've posted a more detailed though still incomplete outline of the quests.

This post has been edited by tpg0007: 16 September 2009 - 01:26 AM

[Fellshadow]

Wow, I've only got 900k >.<

[illh]

Fellshadow said:

Wow, I've only got 900k >.<

Gonna be a while? Grab a

[Rhynn]

tpg0007 said:

So if you're really luck, and critical on the first attempt, the entire Daevonian quest series will cost you 60 mil. An entire set of lv50 crafted gold armor/weapon will probably cost more than this amount.

Ouch, that does sound kinda expensive. :cry:

[Jatorious]

yet another demonstration of NCsoft's love for bots and money sellers and the agreements they have in place with them.

[Unddu]

Stuff like this is just golden for everyone into RMT. Way to go NCsoft....

[btraider]

thanks for the info, thats some crazy mats on that heart, would suck to non crit. :dazed:

At least the bots will add some free rift kills ^ ^

[Mahal]

heres a tip; for people who don't understand or havn't played caion/kaion

60m is not alot of money
a full set of lvl 50 gold crafted gear including weapon will easily cost you 5x this amount

so 60m for an entire set is very cheap
of course actual cost is probably more than 60m because you will may take 3-4 tries before you crit on the crafting, plus the cost needed to level craft will be ~20mil

I would estimate total cost somewhere around 150m, which is about right for what you are getting ( an end game gold set + weapon)

but realistically that is not a big deal
you can make 500k/hr fairly easily at end game by farming mobs; and even more than that if you craft
I know from personal experience I can make 1 mil/hr farming mobs if there is little competition, and this is at lvl 35

This post has been edited by Mahal: 29 August 2009 - 02:25 AM

[Fellshadow]

I hope most of you people realise that at a higher level, going in to the higher millions is pretty easy. I'm only lvl 35, and I've got 900k, but most people the same level as me have a couple million, unless they bought some good gear.

Also, if you need a skill level of 499 to craft the item, that obviously means you have a high level profession. Crafted items at lvl 35 sell for 2-5million, so it will probably be at least double that at 50.

Its not harder than any other MMO to get that much money, the numbers are just bigger. So quit crying about how this is going to create bots and such, you don't even know what you're talking about.

[Vampz]

I wish I could rob people in this game :plshelp:

[Kensh]

Can you start doing these quests right after you hit 50? Also can you get the whole set without grouping?

Just curious if i should focus on pvp right after i hit 50 or work on leveling my crafting skill and getting this gear so im better prepared than most people out there :study:

[Unddu]

Fellshadow said:

I hope most of you people realise that at a higher level, going in to the higher millions is pretty easy. I'm only lvl 35, and I've got 900k, but most people the same level as me have a couple million, unless they bought some good gear.

Also, if you need a skill level of 499 to craft the item, that obviously means you have a high level profession. Crafted items at lvl 35 sell for 2-5million, so it will probably be at least double that at 50.

Its not harder than any other MMO to get that much money, the numbers are just bigger. So quit crying about how this is going to create bots and such, you don't even know what you're talking about.

Wow great way of missing the point.

There is a substantial/significant need for kinah created by crafting.

A need for kinah equates to a market for kinah.

A market for kinah means RMT.

RMT means bots and Chinese farmers.

[Fellshadow]

Mahal said:

but realistically that is not a big deal
you can make 500k/hr fairly easily at end game by farming mobs; and even more than that if you craft
I know from personal experience I can make 1 mil/hr farming mobs if there is little competition, and this is at lvl 35

I'm level 35 and broke, would you consider telling me how you make 1mil/hr? I'm not gonna play on the english/chinese servers so you don't have to worry about competition :'(

Unddu said:

Wow great way of missing the point.

There is a substantial/significant need for kinah created by crafting.

A need for kinah equates to a market for kinah.

A market for kinah means RMT.

RMT means bots and Chinese farmers.

Wow, great way of missing MY point.
Its no different than any other MMO, so therefore, theres most likely going to be just as many bots/rmt as any other one.

[Mahal]

Fellshadow said:

I'm level 35 and broke, would you consider telling me how you make 1mil/hr? I'm not gonna play on the english/chinese servers so you don't have to worry about competition :'(



Wow, great way of missing MY point.
Its no different than any other MMO, so therefore, theres most likely going to be just as many bots/rmt as any other one.

balaur components are very popular on my server for mid-level expert craft items.
farming the level 33 balaur on the upper abyss level (top left of map) will drop thick balaur horns/hide/skin/etc
these have a very common drop rate (as long as you kill efficiently; i am an assassin so I can do 3-4 mobs/minute) and sell for ~100k-150k each

if I farm about 5 hours a night I will net about 5-6mil worth of kinah JUST from balaur drops; this doesn't include any of the other drops I may get such as blues, greens (for disenchanting), greys for vendor, etc.

at higher levels you can net more kinah (usually) but on my server there is much more competition there (big server, everyone is max level). so I keep a character around 35 to specifically farm these as they are in higher demand (if you're too high level you don't get drops).

stuff like this will change from server to server, but in essence all it means is that
1. if you RMT; you're wasting rl money because you're too lazy to do some research (which is unfortunate but inevitable for people with jobs/kids and no time)
2. its not hard to make kinah and complaining about how ncsoft supports botters is just shortsighted and wrong

[eiseli22]

Even if it cost 1m, gold farming bots would be still there. Maybe not as many but it doesn't take less for Ncsoft GM team to crack them down (if they really do it). If they don't do anything about bots, having high or low prices on items means nothing, IMO and servers will be full with bots no matter what.

[Evil]

Where abouts did you get that information exactly. Just want to read it for myself. The Armory doesn't give quest details, and each piece of equipment links to the same chain quest, just with a different name.

[illh]

Mahal said:

balaur components are very popular on my server for mid-level expert craft items.
farming the level 33 balaur on the upper abyss level (top left of map) will drop thick balaur horns/hide/skin/etc
these have a very common drop rate (as long as you kill efficiently; i am an assassin so I can do 3-4 mobs/minute) and sell for ~100k-150k each

if I farm about 5 hours a night I will net about 5-6mil worth of kinah JUST from balaur drops; this doesn't include any of the other drops I may get such as blues, greens (for disenchanting), greys for vendor, etc.

at higher levels you can net more kinah (usually) but on my server there is much more competition there (big server, everyone is max level). so I keep a character around 35 to specifically farm these as they are in higher demand (if you're too high level you don't get drops).

stuff like this will change from server to server, but in essence all it means is that
1. if you RMT; you're wasting rl money because you're too lazy to do some research (which is unfortunate but inevitable for people with jobs/kids and no time)
2. its not hard to make kinah and complaining about how ncsoft supports botters is just shortsighted and wrong

In regards to your point 1, your "research" involves investing time in leveling an alt to 3x to farm those Balaur. That requires significant time and this "waste" of rl money is completely feasible for people that have real-life commitments to make and also money because they have jobs.

If the botters become prevalent enough, they will drop the $/kinah ratio, and then it would be more feasible to spend possibly one hour of wage on something that might takes hours to do by "researching."

This is absolutely supporting bots, if not just simple gold selling.

This post has been edited by illh: 29 August 2009 - 02:49 AM

[Fellshadow]

Mahal said:

balaur components are very popular on my server for mid-level expert craft items.
farming the level 33 balaur on the upper abyss level (top left of map) will drop thick balaur horns/hide/skin/etc
these have a very common drop rate (as long as you kill efficiently; i am an assassin so I can do 3-4 mobs/minute) and sell for ~100k-150k each

if I farm about 5 hours a night I will net about 5-6mil worth of kinah JUST from balaur drops; this doesn't include any of the other drops I may get such as blues, greens (for disenchanting), greys for vendor, etc.

at higher levels you can net more kinah (usually) but on my server there is much more competition there (big server, everyone is max level). so I keep a character around 35 to specifically farm these as they are in higher demand (if you're too high level you don't get drops).

stuff like this will change from server to server, but in essence all it means is that
1. if you RMT; you're wasting rl money because you're too lazy to do some research (which is unfortunate but inevitable for people with jobs/kids and no time)
2. its not hard to make kinah and complaining about how ncsoft supports botters is just shortsighted and wrong

Ahh, I know what items you are talking about. They sell for only about 35k each on my server. Generally there is a lot of people farming for them here:


Is that where you farm for them, too?


Also, I agree with both your points.

[Hexgame]

Unddu said:

Wow great way of missing the point.

There is a substantial/significant need for kinah created by crafting.

A need for kinah equates to a market for kinah.

A market for kinah means RMT.

RMT means bots and Chinese farmers.

There is a need for Gold/Kinah in every MMO. Kinah is easy to obtain and people are just seeing the "big numbers" to automatically assume its a lot.

Sounds to me that you want this game to be more casual then having to work for everything.

[Mahal]

@fell
yes, those are the ones im talking about. if they are overfarmed on your server then all you need to do is find something high in demand. the market is always in constant flux. if your server has more high levels the low level crafting will be more expensive, and vice versa from what i've seen.

@illh
i completely understand that people would rather spend time enjoying the game and buy kinah rather than farming fake money. its their money they can do what they want with it. but blaming ncsoft for making a quest that requires a good money/time sink is just stupid no matter how you look at it. the only people who are supporting botters/gold sellers are the ones who buy gold, period. if there is no money to be made there is no market to bot for drops/sell kinah. botters/gold sellers exist because people buy gold, there is no other reason. none.