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#21 User is offline   Hanzou_Masamori 

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 12:00 AM

Daemian said:

For me it went like this

1.5.0.3= unplayable, unable to stay connected for more than a minute
1.5.0.4= beautiful, zero lag, I was compelled to cry a little, big ol' snot bubble
1.5.0.5= moments of brief lag, still playable, but made me sadface and reminisce of 1.5.0.4

Didn't get to try this out in OB but if it gets me back to the point of snot bubble then yay. Good find and thank you :D


That sounds about how my situation went except I was able to get this tweak in before the beta ended, if it works as well for you as it did for me I think you'll be pleasently surprised. Like you said, 1.5.0.5 was playable, but there was about three times more latency then there should of been, with very obnoxious spikes. This tweak brought me down to below 80 ms ping on average. Again this was down from around 350 to 400 ms on average ping (with spikes) which had been consistent ever since the 1.5.0.5 update. The change was instantly apparent after this tweak was applied. History below:

1.5.0.3= 600 to 1000 ms+ (latency would ramp up to some rediculous amount after minutes, followed by disconnection)

1.5.0.4= 120 to 250 ms (fairly steady ping, best I'd seen without tweaks)

1.5.0.5= 350 to 400 ms (600 ms+ spikes, this patch seemed to undo whatever the last patch had done to make things playable)

1.5.0.5= 65 to 100 ms (tweak applied, differance instantly apparent, the lowest ping Id seen throughout the entire beta in fact- it let me end the beta on a happy note :p)
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 05:50 AM

This doesn't seem to work on my xp sp3, it only fucked up my connection(50-300 to 300-1500, tested with GW).
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 01:14 PM

so does this work or no?
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 02:21 PM

Muta said:

Response to the tl;dr version: if you are behind a router, do you really have that bad a ping to your router? It's the one getting sent all the packets from the server, not your computer.

Secondly, a repost of my response to the OTHER thread...

These hacks change the way your computer processes received packets.

Here's 2 things to keep in mind, though.

1. If you are behind a router, such as most people on DSL, Cable, and Fiber are, this will not help you, and any change you may think occurs is 100% coincidental.
The packets are being handled at the router and are then being passed down to your computer at a steady rate and size, so reg tweaks and the like can not help you at all.

2. These types of tweaks are made mostly for action games with less players involved, not MMOs.
Long story short, this could actually make your lag worse or make you disconnect from the server. If you don't, then congratulations, but I doubt your ping will be all that improved, if any, considering the way that MMORPGs are created to make efficient use of packets and it is bad to change the size and method they are processed.

All in all, I recommend against this sort of thing.

You sir, are incorrect. as I posted this exact same fix in another thread elsewhere here on AionSource, it does reduce ping times. From Houston, TX, where I'm at, it reduced my ping times from 300+ms to Lumiel in beta, to about 120ms. It reduced my ping times in WoW too.

So, unless this magical registry change hacks the client to report lower numbers, you have no clue what you are talking about.

Moreso, you obviously have no idea how packets are coded and transmitted/received, otherwise you would see how moronic your "steady rate and size" comment is.
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 05:19 PM

Marthisdil said:

You sir, are incorrect. as I posted this exact same fix in another thread elsewhere here on AionSource, it does reduce ping times. From Houston, TX, where I'm at, it reduced my ping times from 300+ms to Lumiel in beta, to about 120ms. It reduced my ping times in WoW too.

So, unless this magical registry change hacks the client to report lower numbers, you have no clue what you are talking about.

Moreso, you obviously have no idea how packets are coded and transmitted/received, otherwise you would see how moronic your "steady rate and size" comment is.


Putting things simply, you do not like this I see. And don't call me a moron, it lessens the conversation to name calling instead of discussing the issue at hand. If you have somethign constructive to say other than, basically, "I'm right, you're wrong, and dumb." then say it, then I'll get back to you.
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 05:29 PM

rapidxone said:

so does this work or no?


For myself and others I know that have tried it, it has had a positive impact on their latency in Aion.

If youre already having latency issues with Aion Id recommend trying to play without it for a while, checking your ping, remembering what your average was. Log out then apply the tweak then restart your computer log back in and check your ping. Now try playing with it enabled for a while as well, taking note of your ping and gameplay. Then compare the differance after your done. If it doesnt seem to make a significant improvement in your latency you can always undo the changes with the Restore TCP script. Theres just no harm in trying it out.
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 05:53 PM

Muta said:

Putting things simply, you do not like this I see. And don't call me a moron, it lessens the conversation to name calling instead of discussing the issue at hand. If you have somethign constructive to say other than, basically, "I'm right, you're wrong, and dumb." then say it, then I'll get back to you.


By "something constructive" do you mean something like " it reduced my ping times from 300+ms to Lumiel in beta, to about 120ms."?
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 05:54 PM

Apparently the network settings are already set this way in Windows 7, BTW, so whether or not this would work for you, if you have Windows 7, you do not need to do any of this.

Ziv said:

By "something constructive" do you mean something like " it reduced my ping times from 300+ms to Lumiel in beta, to about 120ms."?


That's testimonial, used by a lot of legitimate and illegitimate products and claims. It's easy to discredit testimonials, and I would not consider it constructive. Example, that herbal crap they are selling on the radio really cured my cold. You should try it, too.
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:09 PM

I have a question for anyone knowledgeable here. This is a good sample of the pings I got most of the time in the Open Beta:
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However, I found that when I was high up in the air, or in one of the empty areas (such as the area on the other side of the river from Verteron Citidel), I got a consistent ping of 150-160ms. (i.e. I never once got a ping of 170 or higher, and I never got a ping of 145 or lower). These lower ping times also happen to be the same as my pings and tracerts to the server.

Unfortunately I never screenshotted these low pings =(.

I suspect that my being near other players or monsters is directly or indirectly causing my ping to go up, which would explain why I got high pings in populated areas and low pings in unpopulated areas. Might this peculiarity be due to this TCP ACK issue? It would seem to me that this problem, if it exists, would only show itself if the server was sending information to the client, and that if the client was in an empty area with nothing for the server to update the client about, it would have no effect. I'll find out for sure when I get on release, but I'd like some opinions.

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 07:06 PM

I gave this a try from one of the oceanic high ping issues threads and went from (Aion) 750 to 475, it's definitely worth a try. As it says, if you dont like it or it doesn't work for you it gives you the file to revert the change, and it takes no time at all.
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Posted 20 September 2009 - 01:54 AM

I can confirm against Muta. I am on DSL and behind a router, and this does infact improve my ping from 275, to 140 on average.

So just trust what everyone else is saying that it works and try it. If it doesnt, simply remove it. Not that hard.
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Posted 20 September 2009 - 03:20 AM

Muta is not educated in this matter so lets let him be with his failing. This "tweak" worked well for me and thats all that matters. I recommend it to anyone.
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Posted 20 September 2009 - 03:51 AM

Quick question, I'm using a 64-bit version of Windows 7 and only played the Open Beta for 1 day. Can this fix potentially help Windows 7 users or are the OS's different that it's not necesary to do in Windows 7? I don't recall any lag the day I played, but I'm bored and waiting for the launch to come and thought I'd ask.
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Posted 20 September 2009 - 04:04 AM

I just checked the site for Leatrix, and not only does it support Windows 7 there are comments reporting it improved latency for Windows 7 users (for Wow mind).

I'm an Aussie and used this for Wow. It dropped my latency from 600-700 down to 300-400 (behind a router and all!). I haven't used this for Aion yet, but I will. I plan to test Lowerping during the headstart and then use Leatrix afterwards in order to determine which will be best.
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Posted 20 September 2009 - 04:39 AM

I went ahead and installed the fix even though I didn't experience any lag in the beta. Will I still see slight improvements in my latency even if I didn't have a problem to begin with?
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Posted 20 September 2009 - 04:44 AM

If your latency is already good, say about the 100 mark then you'll only see a small drop I think. The benefit scales with the size of the problem. As an oceanic my latency problem is massive. ;p
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Posted 20 September 2009 - 05:42 AM

Kooku said:

If your latency is already good, say about the 100 mark then you'll only see a small drop I think. The benefit scales with the size of the problem. As an oceanic my latency problem is massive. ;p


*nods* If your ping is in the 100's that is pretty good, and you would see a very very minor difference in Ping.

I can't see why Muta is so Anti against this when it does help peoples connections. Guess he just likes to act like he knows what he's talking about, and rather them stay away from it then atleast try it to see when there is the registry file to completely remove what was done in the matter of seconds, pending a reboot.

Again, dont listen to Muta. This will help 99% of people, be it very little to alot for those who are further away. I live on the East Coast which is why my drop was only about 100.
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Posted 21 September 2009 - 09:39 PM

Well, for some reason, I had nearly 350ms ping when I started yesterday, as opposed to the 150s I was pulling during OB. Nevertheless, over the last 2 days, I had pings of anywhere between 320-450ms, averaging 380ish. Just ran the fix, and I'm now easily cruising at 150-230ms, usually in the 170 range.

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 12:45 PM

Actually Windows7 and Vista are the best prospects for using this patch. I know in WoW when I upgraded from XP to 7 that my ping went from 60 to about 200... Ran this and it went back down to 60.

As others have posted being behind a router doesn't make this not work... that's just silly as has been pointed out. Since I already had it installed from WOW, i didn't need to reinstall it and haven't noticed any lag in this game at all. It's a simple fix to try and there's a script to remove the settings if you don't like it.
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Posted 23 September 2009 - 04:36 PM

bump, this actually works, even though I had no problems with lag at first place this reduced my ping by 50, 150 to 100 now.
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