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#1 User is offline   Cruoris Icon

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 10:01 PM

Hello all, nice to see you in the ranger forum like me. I recently leveled up to level 30 and part of my leveling was spent soloing in the Training Camp instance and I thought I would share with you my findings. Please note that when soloing elites in the training instance you will gain more then 105k EXP per kill even at level 28.

The first thing you need is someone to join your party. That person's level does not matter, even if they can't enter do to level or lockout, you just need to be in a party to enter the instance.

You will want to have Odella Powder, HP pots, MP pots, arrows, all the usual things. I would also suggest abyss point potions as backup if case.

At level 25-26 the biggest scare you will have in the instance is slow not landing, so if you are not confident in your skills try holding off until 27+. If slow doesn't stick you can do a couple things like dropping a trap, sleep arrow or running until cooldown comes up.

When inside you must pay attention to one group of enemies that roam around that have 4 regular and 1 elite, these path down the left side toward the start area and back up the center. You need to be careful because you will be kiting in this area. Also do note that the smaller of the enemies, the runners, can see through stealth and we can actually use this to our advantage.

What I like to do when I enter is clear out all of the regular enemies that I can first to give me more room to work with. To the right you have a couple of recruits that pull together with a pathing elite, so make sure you don't get the elite. To the left you have a few more recruits that can be pulled solo. You can then grab some of the dragons which will pull in pairs if they are to close. Now we get down to the hard work of killing elites. I would clear out the pathing elite on the right hand side to allow for a clear kiting path. Killing one elite enemy in here actually doesn't take to long and is fairly easy, you just need to look out for their special attacks if they get to close, in that case pop focused evasion when you see their attack charging.

The biggest difference between instance fighting and outdoor fighting is enemies will not leash, which makes it normally impossible to get enemies 1v1 when they pull in pairs, but as I said earlier the smaller enemies see through stealth which helps us. What I like to do is pop slow arrow on the bigger of the pair and run like the wind! After a short time of running, even though they still are chasing you, hide will un-grey and become available for use. At this time pop hide and the bigger guy will leash and wander back to his spot and the small one will keep coming. This is the trick I used to make leveling worth while solo in the training instance.

I did try and take on the dragon boss blocking the second half of the instance but was not able to take him down, I only got him to half health before he managed to get spells off to kill me. He uses Fire Blast repeatedly after I slowed him, as well as his AoE fire attack. They are silenceable and interuptable via sleep arrow, it MAY be possible to kill him if you gear to fight him but I am not sure if it worth it to try.

If anyone else has ideas to add or comments feel free, and anyone under 29 reading this should try it out. Not only is it good EXP, it also feels rewarding and continues to train you into become a very good ranger. Another benefit is that any drops from enemies are not split amongst the party, each elite will drop 1000+ kinah as well which is a nice bonus.

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 10:09 PM

Very nice. I had read somewhere that this was possible but didn't actually try it out.

Do you mind if I add a link to this in my grinding compendium?
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Posted 04 October 2009 - 10:14 PM

onimike said:

Very nice. I had read somewhere that this was possible but didn't actually try it out.

Do you mind if I add a link to this in my grinding compendium?


Go right ahead.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 01:01 AM

In my experience, mobs do leash in instances. They'll just chase you a lot longer than usual.



The only time I haven't had a mob leash was in Fire Temple, when the Templar made a bad pull and the gargoyle chased me all the way to the entrance. :cry:
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 01:33 AM

Where is this instance located, didnt find it from aionarmory.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 02:06 AM

I have done same thing like you ;)

I have also tried fire temple but unfortunately area to manouver at start is too small. Maby when im over 30 it will be doable
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 02:30 AM

Rynski said:

Where is this instance located, didnt find it from aionarmory.


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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:38 AM

How much exp do you win or loose comparing to full clear with a 6m or 5m group?
Last time i ve been there we killed every single mob there is in around 45 minutes and i got around 1 million xp if not more.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 06:08 AM

i get 1 mill there in 20min
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 07:36 AM

Sclol said:

i get 1 mill there in 20min


You cleared the first half in 20 mins and got 1 mil XP total?

If so I would rather get 1.4mil XP in a full run with a group.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 08:01 AM

Ye, i wasnt sure about exact amount granted for full clear. So is it 1.4?
Also was wondering if you can actually reset a boss that deny you from getting to part 2.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 08:06 AM

At level 27 last night a full clear was 1.4 mil for me, but it varies depending upon the levels in your group. So I guess if you are level 25 and the rest of the group is 28, you may get far less XP (a 25 guildie went with some 28s and a 27 last night and said he only got 500k excluding quests).

But at 25 you probably don't want to try to solo this place anyway :)
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 10:59 AM

Just did full clear with 4 man grp: templar, cleric, sorc and me.
Everyone was lvl 28, sorc dinged 29 in the process. I got a bit more then 2 millions xp.
Took around an hour.

So i would say if you got non retarded friends grouping is still better.
Also i believe you can switch cleric for spiritmaster if you have rly good tank. This will result in not being able to do last boss though most likely.

Also would be fun to see 2 good geared rangers doing it since all mobs are perfectly kiteable and tank+healer are just there for boss and big packs.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 11:06 AM

I've started doing this but what is the procedure for dealing with the pulls of two elites that don't have the mobs that see through stealth? Do you just constantly trap/sleep one while kiting the other? It seems to me that if you got unlucky on the duration of the sleep or one of the traps that your "run" would effectively be over.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 12:04 PM

I'm inspired. Will give it a shot =D
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 10:08 AM

Ok i just tried it. The 1 man version. Have to say i am not impressed with the amount of exp.
Mobs gave me around 85-90k xp on lvl 28 and you can safely kill around 5 packs. Maybe 6.
Which is indeed 1 million exp and which is less then clearing it with group.
Cant say it was rly fast either, it was my first time though and i was slightly confused about what do i need to kill

Also i didnt get any loot for some reason. Not a single grey item or kinah.

TLDR: 4man grp is the best exp you can get from there.

This post has been edited by Lieto: 07 October 2009 - 10:14 AM

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 05:48 PM

I think a 2 man Ranger party would be really good.

for this, if both are well geared.

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 06:01 PM

I am not debating that this EXP is BETTER then doing the instance with a party, but it is better then solo grinding on regular enemies (at least for me). I personally went to soloing the instance because I was playing during non-primetime (morning) and my guildies weren't on. Have done a few things with PUGs and they always turn out bad so I soloed.
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Posted 08 October 2009 - 05:18 AM

Cruoris said:

I am not debating that this EXP is BETTER then doing the instance with a party, but it is better then solo grinding on regular enemies (at least for me). I personally went to soloing the instance because I was playing during non-primetime (morning) and my guildies weren't on. Have done a few things with PUGs and they always turn out bad so I soloed.


Yes, I think we are just interested in what can net the most XP. For most people getting the maximum XP out of this instance is a top priority.

But for those that can't ever get a group then your guide is very good.

On a side-note, I went in last night with a group that wasn't great, screwed around at the beginning and wiped. Was just me left kiting 2 normals and an elite. Now I didn't know before I read your guide that I could stealth eventually, so your guide saved me probably 15k Kinah... thanks :)
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Posted 08 October 2009 - 08:42 AM

I hit 25 last night and saw this thread. Headed straight there and duo'd it with a 26 Ranger cuz I was chicken. Was pretty easy gonna try it today solo when my lockout is up.
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