[Zomi]

Obviously a lot of the people that have already left probably are not checking in on forums for something they can care less about, but still...

Do you think WAR or AION was in better (or worse) shape after just a few weeks?

I'm going to have to say AION *shock* because it was already out for quite some time so it wasn't a new release and they had time to fix some of the glaring holes. Although as many said...like in WAR...the problems are so integral they can't really fix them without a big architectural redesign, which is why they never can be fixed :(

WAR did have more hype and advertising than this so in some ways that failed expectations more.

But I see WAR being able to attract new blood and have more of a 'future' than Aion.

Seems they had the codebase, so just localize it and dump it over there. Any $$$ is more than they would have had without it, minus the salaries for the 5 NCSoft West peeps.

[Squizzo]

Aion is in better shape than WAR ever was, WAR was full of bugs at release and had some severe stability issues. Comparitively Aion has very few problems, it just seems the Aion community is full of loud whiners who like bitching about the most minor things.

[Lewelle]

Squizzo said:

Aion is in better shape than WAR ever was, WAR was full of bugs at release and had some severe stability issues. Comparitively Aion has very few problems, it just seems the Aion community is full of loud whiners who like bitching about the most minor things.

How minor is a critical error that keeps you out of one of the game's biggest events?

[Inzi]

Squizzo said:

Aion is in better shape than WAR ever was, WAR was full of bugs at release and had some severe stability issues. Comparitively Aion has very few problems, it just seems the Aion community is full of loud whiners who like bitching about the most minor things.

At least WAR wouldn't crush my game every time there is 50+ vs 50+ battles in RvR areas.

[Veles]

WAR beats Aion in any aspect of gameplay by far.

I was hoping that Aion will support large Fort fights (where WAR obviously failed), but now it is clear that WAR beats Aion even in aspect of server stability and performance.

[Blog Monster]

WAR just ran really bad on my computer, Aion runs like a um...it runs really well : )

[Alizandro]

forget gaming forums and read the busness section of news papers, profits are through the roof for nc so obviously a ton more ppl are coming to aion then leaving so was the mark missed? money dont lie.

[Inzi]

Blog Monster said:

WAR just ran really bad on my computer, Aion runs like a um...it runs really well : )

WAR was running much better on mine (yes, its a bit outdated, yet still not that bad C2D 3Ghz / 6GB / 8800 GTS 512).

[xoti]

Veles said:

WAR beats Aion in any aspect of gameplay by far.

I was hoping that Aion will support large Fort fights (where WAR obviously failed), but now it is clear that WAR beats Aion even in aspect of server stability and performance.

WAR better server stability now thats a joke surely

[Inzi]

Alizandro said:

forget gaming forums and read the busness section of news papers, profits are through the roof for nc so obviously a ton more ppl are coming to aion then leaving so was the mark missed? money dont lie.

Game released a 1 month ago in EU/NA - what a great news.

Guess what? AoC had more than 1 mil subscribers on it's first month than somehow most of those subscriptions were closed.
Exactly what is already happening to Aion.

It's not hard to get a lot of subscriptions during the 1st one-two months, what is hard is to keep those players playing for more than 1-2 months.

[BashNSmash]

The first few months of WAR, you could not be involved in a large RvR fortress/keep battle without the server crashing. So, yes, aion is in a lot better shape than WAR has ever been.

edit: Let's not forget mass CTD problems WAR had.

[Squizzo]

Well I've never had a crash in Aion, though I understand fotress seige crashes affect a lot of people so I'll give you that. But from my personal experience I can run Aion with 10x less lag and rubber banding than WAR.
At least all the quests/mobs work properly in Aion, about 10% of quests were bugged in WAR at release, mob pathing was fucked and animations frequently got stuck or didn't fire at all.
Yeah I'd definitely say Aion is in better shape.

[Arazel]

Inzi said:

Game released a 1 month ago in EU/NA - what a great news.

Guess what? AoC had more than 1 mil subscribers on it's first month than somehow most of those subscriptions were closed.
Exactly what is already happening to Aion.

It's not hard to get a lot of subscriptions during the 1st one-two months, what is hard is to keep those players playing for more than 1-2 months.

You have the exact figures on in comming and canceled subs?

[Inzi]

xoti said:

WAR better server stability now thats a joke surely

Over 2 months haven't seen ANY server stability issues in the WAR.

Arazel said:

You have the exact figures on in comming and canceled subs?

I dont.
Just wait and see it yourself.

[Quiana]

Did Aion miss the mark? Aion was marketed as a PvPvE game created by an Asian gaming studio. We knew there was PvP and looked forward to it. We knew it would be on a massive scale which meant zerging. We knew it would include a lot of PvE content. And we knew it was developed by a company and in a country known for grindy games. Yes, they said they would westernize the game. Of course, I was hoping there would be more quests and that they would be more rewarding. But we knew there would be grinding, it would take a long time to level, the PvP would be zergy at times, and that there would be a ton of PvE content.

My question is, did NA players miss the mark when picking Aion?

[Arazel]

Inzi said:

I dont.
Just wait and see it yourself.

How can you say Aion is going the same way with no proof to back it up?

[Alizandro]

Inzi said:

Game released a 1 month ago in EU/NA - what a great news.

Guess what? AoC had more than 1 mil subscribers on it's first month than somehow most of those subscriptions were closed.
Exactly what is already happening to Aion.

It's not hard to get a lot of subscriptions during the 1st one-two months, what is hard is to keep those players playing for more than 1-2 months.

aoc was the third best selling mmo last year...do you realize how many mmos there are? thats pretty damn good.

again, more ppl are coming to aion then going its just that the going players are cry babies and make sure they get noticed, drama queens.

[Inzi]

Squizzo said:

Well I've never had a crash in Aion, though I understand fotress seige crashes affect a lot of people so I'll give you that. But from my personal experience I can run Aion with 10x less lag and rubber banding than WAR.

ROFL, thats a good joke. Try to jump onto any platform with very limited space - like the walls in Altguard near the village, or try to hug the wall in Abyss fortress when coming behind the corner.

Hell, after a whole year since release in Korea this freaking game doesn't even have WATER. Guess what happened when I jumped from a height into the lake...

Me and my friends were crushing not only during sieges (sieges is a total joke - you not only crush, you also get teleported outside the fort into a group of enemies waiting, oh joy) but simply during the questing. And thats with totally different PC specs.

Not to metion freaking launcher that would be stating game is .10 can't upgrade it to .9 half of the time so I had to force load without updating - couple weeks ago.

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Alizandro said:

aoc was the third best selling mmo last year...do you realize how many mmos there are? thats pretty damn good.

Keyword is "was".

MMO is not a single player game which you sell once and thats it. Most of income in MMOs comes from subscriptions. If MMO can't keep players playing for at least a year - it's an utterly failed MMO.

Alizandro said:

again, more ppl are coming to aion then going its just that the going players are cry babies and make sure they get noticed, drama queens.

More ppls are coming? When I started playing Castor had queues starting from the 4 pm and all the way to 2 am. Now for big part of the day it's listed as Recommended. Pandemonium was so full it was really amazing - there were literaly crowds all over the place.
Oh, give me a break... Its only been a month since the release and game is already losing steam.

This post has been edited by Inzi: 03 November 2009 - 03:52 AM
Reason for edit: Automerged Double-Post.

[BashNSmash]

so you are trying to take this game down with you as you piss and moan about falling population. look dude if you think war is a better game than go play there and quit aion already.

[Arazel]

BashNSmash said:

so you are trying to take this game down with you as you piss and moan about falling population. look dude if you think war is a better game than go play there and quit aion already.

I don't mind if he wants to bitch and moan about it - as long as he can back it up with facts and not some made up B.S.