[Spirit]

In the game there are elyos/asmo that can speak the other factions language. (spy quest NPCs, the dude in fire temple, etc)

So I only see this program as us attempting to learn the others language. Effectively, those of us active in the community outside of aion, are now half-bilingual like those NPCs.

Pro tip= if you wanna know what the enemy is saying to you, just flip the translator the other way, and type in exactly what you see them say, it will come out in english.

[Draca]

Tiaga said:

My guess is if they have a problem with it, they'll just change how the garbling is done. But if they do that with private stores still readable by the other side, there won't be much point. Of course, if all they do is change the language numbers, I can create a new table very quickly as soon as I have a brief sample of garbled speech from each side to examine. If it's still a deterministic cypher of the letters using a different method, then it would be a matter of figuring out what that is. The only thing that would totally block this is if they made it purely random.

To be honest, I think the reason they did it the way they did isn't so that people could decode it eventually, but to give it at least a little sensical property. That is to say, when an Asmodian says "you" it will come across as "toq" to the elyos every time (Assuming it's lower case). Rather than, something like "Do you know what you are doing?" having two different translations for "you".

And for anyone curious, this definitely works. I was on a low level alt the other day, and saw a red dot, so instinctively attacked. My hits just bounced off, and they were rank 4, so I quickly figured out it was futile and stopped, then said "I guess I don't want to do that..." It caught his attention, so rather than let me try to run then one shot me like he planned (And did eventually) we were chatting for a good hour or two.

Or atleast until they figure to use a real encryption algoritm. Looks like it is alittle more then a simple substition algoritm but still.
Nice work tho.

[Tiaga]

It's not meant to be an encryption algorithm though, if they are going to do that they might as well just make it totally random.

And very observant of you Spirit. Yes, plugging in something they say will get you about 90% of the stuff translated, because most everybody talks in all lower case. If they use upper case letters, either mixed or all upper, though, you'll need to use the full table I posted and try different possibilities, keeping in mind the different options change how the next letter is translated.

[JKMB]

Spirit said:

In the game there are elyos/asmo that can speak the other factions language. (spy quest NPCs, the dude in fire temple, etc)

So I only see this program as us attempting to learn the others language. Effectively, those of us active in the community outside of aion, are now half-bilingual like those NPCs.

Pro tip= if you wanna know what the enemy is saying to you, just flip the translator the other way, and type in exactly what you see them say, it will come out in english.

Bumpity, could you elaborate on that a bit please? :study:

[Alizandro]

way to much work to talk to them, much easier to kill them and talk to them on here :D

[Tiaga]

It's actually pretty simple with that helpful little program to do it for you.

[Alizandro]

whats with that annoying Dante49sy posting that damn pic in every thread..be gone!

[Platinum]

Spirit said:

In the game there are elyos/asmo that can speak the other factions language. (spy quest NPCs, the dude in fire temple, etc)

So I only see this program as us attempting to learn the others language. Effectively, those of us active in the community outside of aion, are now half-bilingual like those NPCs.

Pro tip= if you wanna know what the enemy is saying to you, just flip the translator the other way, and type in exactly what you see them say, it will come out in english.

JKMB said:

Bumpity, could you elaborate on that a bit please? :study:

yes i've been trying to figure that out as well.

[deathcalls]

Tiaga said:

Yes this is a double post..

You lost me at "Yes this is a double post."

Tiaga said:

t a l k i n g l i k e t h i s. .

then this...

Tiaga said:

For Asmodians talking to Elyos:
[FONT=Courier New]Initial letter:
If you want to say: a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
Type..............: j k h i n o l m r s p q v w t u z G b c J a f g d e
Then go to table..: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 2 2 3 2 2 2 2 2

and that.

This post has been edited by deathcalls: 01 December 2009 - 06:06 AM

[Tiaga]

deathcalls said:

You lost me at "Yes this is a double post."

then this...

and that.

I broke with traidition and put a tl;dr at the TOP of the first post, with a link to download a program from this post earlier in the thread. Once you have that, all you need to know is how to use it and you can start talking to the enemy with that little program. If a shugo tries selling you the program for 10,000 kinah, it's a scam.

[Spirit]

Spirit said:

In the game there are elyos/asmo that can speak the other factions language. (spy quest NPCs, the dude in fire temple, etc)

So I only see this program as us attempting to learn the others language. Effectively, those of us active in the community outside of aion, are now half-bilingual like those NPCs.

Pro tip= if you wanna know what the enemy is saying to you, just flip the translator the other way, and type in exactly what you see them say, it will come out in english.

JKMB said:

Bumpity, could you elaborate on that a bit please? :study:

Platinum said:

yes i've been trying to figure that out as well.

if you are fighting an enemy, and see him say "Hgkls fdkaslj fdskel"

then open the program, go to the system tray on bottom right, flip the translator to translate into YOUR FACTION. then

and go into notepad, type "/tr Hgkls fdkaslj fdskel" , press control-a, control-c, control-v

then you will see what he said in english. (like they said above, if the enemy uses caps it screws up translation slightly - but its still understandable)

[Elumine]

A most fascinating thread. I love breaking language barriers on games like this. I will be following this thread's progress.

[Dejh]

I love this app. I've had a lot of fun using it, as it's so much more convenient and looks nicer than any other method of translation. You'd be surprised how many people pause for a few seconds when you charge their group and yell in their language, "What would batman do?" I've directed a ton of Elyos this way when they stop and ask how they can understand me. I hope the use of it continues to spread, it makes me happy whenever an Elyos says something I can understand, even if it's just a taunt.

[Joshgt2]

I'll try to say something nice when we're taking your artifacts back from you Tiaga, =)

[Rhe7oric]

Well, for sure it works. Had an Asmodian talking to me, today; which is how I found out about this app in the first place, just so happens to be a member of the Discord legion... Dejh's legion on Triniel.

This post has been edited by Rhe7oric: 04 December 2009 - 06:26 AM

[Nya]

there are already some translators, but i wanted to do mine :), it should translate whole words if Tiaga's tables are right
if there are any mistakes, bugs, errors, ill be glad if you report them

Nya's Aion translator

[Platinum]

I've been hearing people in lfg say that spacing out the letters allows them to talk to the other faction. I'll have to try it out but i'd be pelased if someone could confirm this

[kataomoi]

Rhe7oric said:

Well, for sure it works. Had an Asmodian talking to me, today; which is how I found out about this app in the first place, just so happens to be a member of the Discord legion... Dejh's legion on Triniel.

Hm that elyos up there looks familiar.......:sparkles:

[Pie Formation]

Platinum said:

I've been hearing people in lfg say that spacing out the letters allows them to talk to the other faction. I'll have to try it out but i'd be pelased if someone could confirm this

Spacing out the letters alone doesn't work. People think that because previously, we had only figured out how to convert the first letter of each word, so putting spaces in between made every letter the first letter of its word and we could get it to work.

[Ceiran]

Nya said:

there are already some translators, but i wanted to do mine :), it should translate whole words if Tiaga's tables are right
if there are any mistakes, bugs, errors, ill be glad if you report them

Nya's Aion translator

Thankyou! A webpage and not an application was just what I was looking for to play with this kind of thing.

Quick question though. Can you make it backwards translate? So that if I see a mess of letters and numbers from asmos in chat I can copy that in and translate what they are actualy trying to say?

This post has been edited by Ceiran: 06 December 2009 - 06:18 PM