[Selenus]

First Upper Abyss Asmodian fort on the server ;o

Kudos to PI for brilliant communication and cooperation as always.

Moar forts nau!

This post has been edited by Selenus: 07 November 2009 - 12:14 AM

[crono]

Grats guys.

Btw, I was wondering if someone can answer a question I have. I heard something about "fortress swapping" but I don't know what that is. Can anyone tell me what is fortress swappinng? Sorry for OT. Thankies.

[Bluff]

@Fortress Swapping

It's like that : Elyos dont defend their fortresses and let asmos or balaur take it easy so there are more fortresses available to capture in next days, why?, more medals for both sides

This is what happened yesterday, Section9 Got Roah fortress and it belonged to Elyos, yesterday it was vulnerable, no1 from S9 or Elyos went to defend it so that balaur or asmos can take it, in the next days the fortress shall be vulnerable again and Elyos can capture it again for more medals

next patch (1.5.1) legions defending a fortress shall be awarded with medals, the medals will go to Legion Leader

not sure that this will change anything, because defending a fortress takes 2hours and capturing it takes much much less time,
i dont think legions will waste 2 hours for 20 medal in the end, but lets wait for next patch and see

[Aneu]

Indeed,

Fortress ping pong seems to be the order of the day at the moment. All of those medals in the next patch wont be a large enough incentive to bring on the large defensive situations that a lot of people seem to be hoping for. The defense seems to only benefit the legion defending it (in our case our brothers in arms too (PI) since we for one will share our medals with them).

Defending is going to be a difficult task considering the unbalance between the two.

VoTF and PI are continuing to work closer and closer and im glad to see that other legions are now starting to get together to help each other. VoTF + PI have recently merged Ventrillo servers to enable us far greater co-operation and to continue our efforts to be far more effective as a fighting force. Once again id like to thank our brothers in arms and look forward to strengthening that relationship as time goes on, and even possibly adding to it with other legions.

~Aneu
VoTF GM

[Tendoe]

Aneu said:

Indeed,

Fortress ping pong seems to be the order of the day at the moment. All of those medals in the next patch wont be a large enough incentive to bring on the large defensive situations that a lot of people seem to be hoping for. The defense seems to only benefit the legion defending it (in our case our brothers in arms too (PI) since we for one will share our medals with them).

Defending is going to be a difficult task considering the unbalance between the two.

VoTF and PI are continuing to work closer and closer and im glad to see that other legions are now starting to get together to help each other. VoTF + PI have recently merged Ventrillo servers to enable us far greater co-operation and to continue our efforts to be far more effective as a fighting force. Once again id like to thank our brothers in arms and look forward to strengthening that relationship as time goes on, and even possibly adding to it with other legions.

~Aneu
VoTF GM

Thats really good news :) Nice to see a well structured opposition - keep it up; and hopefully the others will follow in suit :)

[Prometeu]

Congratulations VoTF - great job there!

@fortress ping-pong or swapping - is a game mechanics flaw - but it just brings out the item lowers and the greedy approach. I personnally dont care about items that much and anyway not to the extent in wich to willingly participate, or ignore, the ping-pong game. So if you find partners now - enjoy while it last - once KDS will get to really engage the endgame the easy fortress swapping will get tougher - I promise you that!

/salute

[Spraque]

I certainly do hope this so called "fortress swapping" is a very passing phase...where the nyerk is the achievement in the aforementioned method!
It's encouraging to read KDS thread tho...must say these mechanics are indeed flawed, and to see "sworn enemies" take advantage stings my Asmodian heart. Fight to the death...defending or attacking...too many times have I been at forts held by Asmo about to go Vulnerable, and not a soul there....disheartening.

hope this changes asap!

[Zoj]

Fort swapping, wow just wow, and i thought this server could not become more carebear T_T

[Pwez]

Nice to see Asmo can take over our forts when they have a big influence disadvantage, so the Elyos Deity's are gimps with low hp.

Now show you really can do something and take the first middle upper abyss fortress of the Balaur.

[Tendoe]

Our legion 'tries'...yes 'tries' to help defend fortresses..and curretnly pretty much fail :sparkles:. Yesterday we went to go defend an upper abyss fortress. We asked the holding legion to come assist in defending their own fort - and we were simply just told to nyerk ourselves - and that fort was Roah.

Although the rewards are not in place at the moment...you would have atleast thought they might have had some pride...bah....

agreed tough - lets hope this is a passing phase.

[Hemogoblin]

VoTF is one Asmo legion I have respect so far. Haven't saw that they run gank parties and they are very good and active at PVP in Abyss. I hope they stay that way ;)

[D-KOI]

Grats on taking forts from Elyos, now take an upper abyss one from Balaur.


PS: Gamemechanics are weird.... When Elyos caps a fortress, next day it's vulnerable again, when Asmos cap it it stays invulnerable for 3 days.

[Spraque]

D-KOI said:

Grats on taking forts from Elyos, now take an upper abyss one from Balaur.


PS: Gamemechanics are weird.... When Elyos caps a fortress, next day it's vulnerable again, when Asmos cap it it stays invulnerable for 3 days.

Yeah, its an evil and cunning dev ploy..as they just love us Asmos...like it never goes both ways:jealous:

[Isetia]

Tendoe said:

Although the rewards are not in place at the moment...you would have atleast thought they might have had some pride...bah....

agreed tough - lets hope this is a passing phase.

Pride? Ähm, where is the "pride" from Hyperion when it gets to Dredgion? Every time i was in there, rushed and beaten from the Asmos at the beginning while fighting against mobs, members from Hyperion are the first who will leave the Dungeon.

So dont blame other legions they were prideless...

The Fortresses, who ever was able to capture them are the fortresses of the whole fraction.
And sorry that it makes no sense to wait every day 2 hours for asmos to defend the fort specially if you have nothing from a fort like a fraction buff or something like that.

Btw, we was captureing the first Fort for the Elyos in lower and upper Abyss because of the pride and the challenge.

This post has been edited by Isetia: 13 November 2009 - 02:53 AM

[Astarael]

We take the fortresses with 6-12 people, we never have more than that online. We get medals, and we're happy. As it stands, there are no rewards from trying to defend besides standing around and losing 2 full hours of playtime. I'm happy to let asmo's take them off us so we can take it back for more medals :)

as for what Isetia said, leaving the dredgion is pretty disgraceful. If it's going poorly for you, you can just clear the ready rooms, and maybe the barracks, and leave the rest to the better side. still clears 1.5-2k AP by the end of it.

Not that I'm familiar with having to do that - Fate's dredgion team hasn't lost yet. Asmo's havn't really had a chance, none of the groups we've faced have been that much of a challenge..

[Bluestar]

Astarael said:

We take the fortresses with 6-12 people, we never have more than that online. We get medals, and we're happy. As it stands, there are no rewards from trying to defend besides standing around and losing 2 full hours of playtime. I'm happy to let asmo's take them off us so we can take it back for more medals :)

as for what Isetia said, leaving the dredgion is pretty disgraceful. If it's going poorly for you, you can just clear the ready rooms, and maybe the barracks, and leave the rest to the better side. still clears 1.5-2k AP by the end of it.

Not that I'm familiar with having to do that - Fate's dredgion team hasn't lost yet. Asmo's havn't really had a chance, none of the groups we've faced have been that much of a challenge..

They love killing Sorcerer's though ;( (nerf rangers mmk)

[Terico]

Tendoe said:

We asked the holding legion to come assist in defending their own fort - and we were simply just told to nyerk ourselves - and that fort was Roah.

Although the rewards are not in place at the moment...you would have atleast thought they might have had some pride...bah....

agreed tough - lets hope this is a passing phase.

I'm sorry we don't wanna waste 2 hours defending a fortress in the abyss wasting our time when we could be doing stuff that actually rewards us with something. When you take something other then Sulfur Fort which you lost in like 5 minutes (where was the defending then by the way?) come back to us about complaining.
Also when you are in a legion that doesn't zerg everything to the ground and take stuff and go "OMG WE SO OSSUM" and have only 9 active members on at most, there ain't all that much we can do about the defending part really.

[D-KOI]

Ever heared of the Artifact inside that only the hholding legion can activate???? Helps the door a lot..... O but wait: FATE = no more.

[Zavora]

Isetia said:

Pride? Ähm, where is the "pride" from Hyperion when it gets to Dredgion? Every time i was in there, rushed and beaten from the Asmos at the beginning while fighting against mobs, members from Hyperion are the first who will leave the Dungeon.

So dont blame other legions they were prideless...

The Fortresses, who ever was able to capture them are the fortresses of the whole fraction.
And sorry that it makes no sense to wait every day 2 hours for asmos to defend the fort specially if you have nothing from a fort like a fraction buff or something like that.

Btw, we was captureing the first Fort for the Elyos in lower and upper Abyss because of the pride and the challenge.

We dont have that many members that are high enough lvl to go into the dredgion. And also the people you are talking about already left/got kicked because they/we didnt found us/them suitable. And also, don't review a legion because of what some of their members did.

And to Terico, at the time we lost sulfur fortress there were only like 20 of us online. Now im not saying we could not defend the fort but with only 20 ppl i dont think there is much we can do. Some of us actually did go to defend it but they were only with like 6-8 people, so yeah..

Although i do agree with you on the point that defending a fort for 2 hours straight is kinda pointless, i think it would be fun to at least try to defend it. And i mean with allot of ppl not with like 2 groups.

but i also agree with Tendoe. Im hoping this fase will pass soon because it's kinda strange to just cap something and then leave it as it is. Which currently can't be helped since you dont get anything for defending, im hoping that the upcomming patch will change this.

Im hoping this will be the end of this pointless discussion because, hey, we are on the same side after all.

oh and D-KOI, there was probably a good reason for them disbanding their legion. So let's stop tempting eachother to flame one and another.

This post has been edited by Zavora: 16 November 2009 - 05:18 PM

[Astarael]

20 online when you took sulfur and you wouldn't defend? that's 3 times as many as we took the upper fortresses with, so those members of your legion who were shouting in reshanta about how awful we are because we didn't defend last week should probably watch their tongues. Then again those were probably the same members who had to ask us how we take fortresses, and who got outraged in shout when we took all the fortresses with a 12 man alliance when there was most of hyperion there.

and although all 11 of fates members left to merge with Newbs on Tour, you can expect we'll still have the name of our legion on those fortresses. It'll just be a different name now.