[parrishilton]

Jeric said:

Never lost to a templar. Kitting is indeed the right strategy against them and believe me a skilled glad can kite any templar just fine. Not only can we use a bow (which has a chance to stun), but we also have ranged attacks which have a chance to KD and slow down. Kitting with the bow and switching to the PA when my ranged skills are ready has always worked for me against a templar. Once his buffs run out I take the fight to him and finish him off.

How do you kite a templar thats running away after expelling all that time and effort kiting him down to low hp?

[Bearikade]

Deliq said:

Templars are actually easy for a skilled glad. All you need to do is to watch his buff bar. When he uses reflect damage, iron skin, or "I block everything now!" DP self-buff, just pull out your bow and kite him till those buffs wear off (for example ironskin reduces incoming damage by 50% but lasts only for 30s and has 10 min cooldown). Also save aerial lockdown for a right moment, preferably when hes at about 20% HP and preparing to use his full self-heal DP skill. Berserking is a must against any templar and if everything else fails, try daevic fury or blessing of whatever 50 self buff, you should slice him like nothing. Also dualwield > polearm against templars.

Biggest problem with templars usually is to kill them before they run away (it can be a real pain in the ***). Try ankle snare or shoot him repeatedly from bow and pray youll be able to kill him in time.

Are you kidding me? When the hell does a templar run away from a Glad? When does a Glad get a templar that low on HP?

Wait your talking about a templar 5 levels lower. Ok I think this is starting to make sense. You should correct your post, people might think that even level templars run away from glads, and this would be a very large misconception.

[isanti13]

I have a 50 templar and a 30 glad right now, and I can say that when they are both twinked out in the same items around level 30, the glad kills stuff in 2/3 the time or less.

[Deliq]

Bearikade said:

Are you kidding me? When the hell does a templar run away from a Glad? When does a Glad get a templar that low on HP?

Wait your talking about a templar 5 levels lower. Ok I think this is starting to make sense. You should correct your post, people might think that even level templars run away from glads, and this would be a very large misconception.

Lolz templars level 50 are piece of cake, their abilities are mostly defensive and for limited duration of time. Trust me it's absolutely not problematic for 50 glad to kill 50 templar unless hes got much better equip.

This is what I am scared of:



not loltemplars, they are a joke class, you can always say to yourself "screw this" and get away from him and theres nothing he can do about it.

[Bearikade]

Deliq said:

Lolz templars level 50 are piece of cake, their abilities are mostly defensive and for limited duration of time. Trust me it's absolutely not problematic for 50 glad to kill 50 templar unless hes got much better equip.

This is what I am scared of:



not loltemplars, they are a joke class, you can always say to yourself "screw this" and get away from him and theres nothing he can do about it.

What you're saying must be based around your experience ganking some rather PVE spec'd out templars or undergeared. If you try to run from a templar at lvl 50, you get IJ'd, he pulls out attack speed GS and chews you down pretty fast if your low on HP. Maybe you fight undergeared lvl 50 templars, i'm not sure. It's true, a templar with sword and board doesn't do much damage, and doesn't take much either. If you choose to stand and fight him you'll likely lose. It comes down to how the templar is geared, since it's a gear dependent class. If you're even geared, he's probably going to win. He is simply capable of mitigating much more damage then a GLAD while still pumping out enough DPS to burn you down before you can burn him down.

[Deliq]

Bearikade said:

What you're saying must be based around your experience ganking some rather PVE spec'd out templars or undergeared. If you try to run from a templar at lvl 50, you get IJ'd, he pulls out attack speed GS and chews you down pretty fast if your low on HP. Maybe you fight undergeared lvl 50 templars, i'm not sure. It's true, a templar with sword and board doesn't do much damage, and doesn't take much either. If you choose to stand and fight him you'll likely lose. It comes down to how the templar is geared, since it's a gear dependent class. If you're even geared, he's probably going to win. He is simply capable of mitigating much more damage then a GLAD while still pumping out enough DPS to burn you down before you can burn him down.

No templar ever chewed me down in 2s which is exactly how long you don't have controll over your character when you get pulled. Get over it your class is crap no one cares about. Just as mine.

[DojoMax]

ITT: Templar and Glad epeen flexing.

oops bumped a dead thread... silly me.

[Bearikade]

DojoMax said:

ITT: Templar and Glad epeen flexing.

oops bumped a dead thread... silly me.

It's his stupid looking face that kills threads. People don't want to see it so they just ditch the whole topic. Any post with his stupid face in it should be instantly dropped out of general principle, especially this one.

[Deliq]

Bearikade said:

It's his stupid looking face that kills threads. People don't want to see it so they just ditch the whole topic. Any post with his stupid face in it should be instantly dropped out of general principle, especially this one.

My face looks cool lolz, stop being an emo about how other people look good and you dont you little mutant!

[shangriLOL]

For whatever reason, during rifting and abyss, I have fought few same/similar level templars (I am a 42 glad currently). Yesterday I came across a 43 templar and we went at it for 3 or 4 minutes, before he turned and ran to the guard tower. I forgot the tower was even there (lol) and of course was toasted by the guards. He had me down to about 20% hp (nothing but HP pot left to heal by now) and he had about 30%. I don't know why he was running to the tower, cause I was actually about to turn and flee. I knew I was going to die if I kept fighting him.

The only other time I fought a templar, it was similar. Rifting, and after a long while of him doing barely any damage to me w/ sword and shield, and me doing barely any damage to him, he took out his GS and ended up killing me. I don't have trouble with any class but templar and cleric, it seems. Sometimes an SM will fear me into a shitton of mobs, and I definitely have trouble w/ that.

Of course, templars 3 or more lvls under me melt like butter (as Deliq has said). But when they are my level its a different story.

But yeah, templar do very decent damage, with GS not too far behind glad, and take far less. When you put the two together, equal level and geared temp vs glad, templar will usually win. Just because they do very similar damage but take far less. I've seen many a temp-vs-glad duel/battle and templar usually wins.

[MysticRose]

Actually the fight between temp and glad can, in my experience, be described as:

- Button-banging against each other: Temp win hands down.
- Kiting: If the glad is a good player, then there is a good chance the glad will win.
- Abyss fight: The player who sees his HP dropping faster will flee. 90% of the case the other player wont be able to chase the other one down.

[Bearikade]

shangriLOL said:

For whatever reason, during rifting and abyss, I have fought few same/similar level templars (I am a 42 glad currently). Yesterday I came across a 43 templar and we went at it for 3 or 4 minutes, before he turned and ran to the guard tower. I forgot the tower was even there (lol) and of course was toasted by the guards. He had me down to about 20% hp (nothing but HP pot left to heal by now) and he had about 30%. I don't know why he was running to the tower, cause I was actually about to turn and flee. I knew I was going to die if I kept fighting him.

The only other time I fought a templar, it was similar. Rifting, and after a long while of him doing barely any damage to me w/ sword and shield, and me doing barely any damage to him, he took out his GS and ended up killing me. I don't have trouble with any class but templar and cleric, it seems. Sometimes an SM will fear me into a shitton of mobs, and I definitely have trouble w/ that.

Of course, templars 3 or more lvls under me melt like butter (as Deliq has said). But when they are my level its a different story.

But yeah, templar do very decent damage, with GS not too far behind glad, and take far less. When you put the two together, equal level and geared temp vs glad, templar will usually win. Just because they do very similar damage but take far less. I've seen many a temp-vs-glad duel/battle and templar usually wins.

Yeah, Templar VS Glad is never in the favor of the GLAD but it also comes down to gear. If the GLAD out gears the temp he's definitely going to roll him. If they are even geared, TEMP should win. I've personally never lost to a glad my same level, and can beat glads up to 3 levels higher depending. We constantly slow the GLADS attack speed on their already slow SPEAR, and with all our mitigation they arnt doing enough damage to get through our mitigation. After 3 LEVELS my accuracy isn't high enough for me to do enough damage and I get dusted rather fast.

[RayND]

Bearikade said:

Yeah, Templar VS Glad is never in the favor of the GLAD but it also comes down to gear. If the GLAD out gears the temp he's definitely going to roll him. If they are even geared, TEMP should win. I've personally never lost to a glad my same level, and can beat glads up to 3 levels higher depending. We constantly slow the GLADS attack speed on their already slow SPEAR, and with all our mitigation they arnt doing enough damage to get through our mitigation. After 3 LEVELS my accuracy isn't high enough for me to do enough damage and I get dusted rather fast.

What's with the CONSTANT emphasis ON random words, BRO?

[Sosweet]

Jeric, on 06 January 2010 - 03:59 PM, said:

Never lost to a templar. Kitting is indeed the right strategy against them and believe me a skilled glad can kite any templar just fine. Not only can we use a bow (which has a chance to stun), but we also have ranged attacks which have a chance to KD and slow down. Kitting with the bow and switching to the PA when my ranged skills are ready has always worked for me against a templar. Once his buffs run out I take the fight to him and finish him off.

Then I never lost to a Glad

[lucifear]

simple really, templar DPS using the same weapon as the glad will be DAMN close, both at critcap ofc, I play with a templar friend all the time, sometimes he will even kill the mob faster than me depending on the luck on crits, only times i clearly outdps him are when I'm uder berserking or DP skills effects

but yeah, glads can also AoE, got a few more tools to keep ppl from running in PvP (read, a few) and can get some spikey damage out of nothing (P.cut?) that makes healing the surprizbuttsecks a bit harder

their survivability on the other hand, is nowhere near close ours, its a insane difference really

[The_Sinth]

Well for example in DP the Glads DPs WILL be higher, but simple cuz of his AoEs. DPS wise on one mob, they re about the same, i hit for 1.3k with Auto-hit crits when i got all buffs up ( im on the full dmg Specc and work with a Mace).DPS on a single Target, i d say it always depends, and as an Team, temp + glad, they re unstoppable.

Once when i ran the DPS Meter in DP, i had more DMG at all ( not DPS) then a Ranger with Anuhart bow. But he also was on the Burst Tree, so idk who would have had more DMG if he had the other tree. But fact is, that Templar do good dmg nd have a sick Burst.

When it comes to 1 on 1 the only glads i do have problems with, are the full Miraju or Fenril ones ( since i dont have miraju cuz im too lazy to do this nyerk). Glads on same gear i tear apart, even if they kite me and use their Skill with 4 Seconds melee silence.

In the abyss its just the one who procc paralyse first anyways ^^ I kill Glads in 5-10 secs, and so do they with me if they are well geared.
So in a Glad vs Temp its all about gear, luck and in the end also of skill.

[Silent Enemy]

Soran, on 06 January 2010 - 03:48 PM, said:

Empyrean armor?
Iron Skin?
Full Heal after all of this?

Or better yet, when you see a zerg just pop your 4kDP, aether armor, and stand there invincible while the entire alliance does zero damage to you and you laugh as you return out.

Ignite Aether V Says hello ?.
you may not be aware of it?. but Aether Armor I Does not work against Ignite Aether. or any other Buff Dispel that SM's have. they chew off your buffs.

2Luke2, on 06 January 2010 - 02:41 PM, said:

Just to let you know though, we don't have a reflect damage skill,

Amazingly another person with no insight in a templars gameplay . Allow me: Holy Shield III



/End Troll

[wurdulak]

Templars against Glads ? With my gear http://uk.aiononline...078&serverID=33 i beated 2 out of 2 this Glad in duels http://uk.aiononline...33&charID=79278 - it was a close fight but i won with like 2500-3000 HP on my bar left

He has his Fenris spear + 10 , my Fenris sword is only +2 and my Abyss Shield + 0 atm

Rest we have the same gear....

With my shield + 10 and my 1h sword +10 he does not have any chance, trust me

If you ll fight as a Templar with 2h against Gladiator then u are just lol - 1h+ shield is the way to kill a geared Gladiator

P.S. I never used any form of DP in the duels , with 3k DP(Hand of Healing) and 4k DP(Zikel Shield) gladiator is way more easyer

[parrishilton]

wurdulak, on 19 April 2010 - 09:47 AM, said:

Templars against Glads ? With my gear http://uk.aiononline...078&serverID=33 i beated 2 out of 2 this Glad in duels http://uk.aiononline...33&charID=79278 - it was a close fight but i won with like 2500-3000 HP on my bar left

He has his Fenris spear + 10 , my Fenris sword is only +2 and my Abyss Shield + 0 atm

Rest we have the same gear....

With my shield + 10 and my 1h sword +10 he does not have any chance, trust me

If you ll fight as a Templar with 2h against Gladiator then u are just lol - 1h+ shield is the way to kill a geared Gladiator

P.S. I never used any form of DP in the duels , with 3k DP(Hand of Healing) and 4k DP(Zikel Shield) gladiator is way more easyer

Try fighting a glad with 1900+ accy so u cant block every other attk its a much different ball game

[Doriath]

parrishilton, on 20 April 2010 - 12:33 AM, said:

Try fighting a glad with 1900+ accy so u cant block every other attk its a much different ball game

block got a buff in 1.9, and +10 to +15 add 130 block too to the shield so temp will still can block alot