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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:06 AM

oooook this blows. the DP skill for asmo warriors inflicts damage and add that damage inflicted to your health as opposed to the elyos that increases HP by 30% and increases damage in general. There is a huge flaw in this and it has to do with the templar.

If I am asmo templar, and I'm specced for tanking, I'm going to want as much health a possible, and I'm going to put as little resources into damage dealing and more into life increases ones. Basically i will do **** base damage in the end with all my defense buffs and such. Ok, but the DP skill states that I have to do damage to gain health as opposed to the perfect thing for tanking that the elyos get in +30% health. this is bullshit, i want +30% health. Im not a ****ing necromancer or some ****.:angry:
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:12 AM

OMG DOOM thread number next.

Wait till you actually play before making any sort of statement.

Whiny noob number next. ;)

I hope I did that right; hopefully Tiresias will let me know. :D
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:16 AM

Diablo said:

OMG DOOM thread number next.

Wait till you actually play before making any sort of statement.

Whiny noob number next. ;)

I hope I did that right; hopefully Tiresias will let me know. :D


wtf. everyone know hardbuffs are better than things you can't control, like being able to inflict damage on your opponent. its pvp and pve 101. any GW and WoW players know exactly what im talking about, or at least they should.:grin:
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:19 AM

Sarcasm, learn it and love it.
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:22 AM

i don't understand what you were trying to say. DOOM THREAD number next???
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:24 AM

It is because you're new. Threads around here that are even the slightest negative getted flammed hard.

I suggest you put on some asbestos.
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:27 AM

Mordru, things will likely change from the things you see now. Take WoW for example. Enough people btched about priests and fear ward until Blizz finally gave in.. and nerfed the hell out of it.
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:43 AM

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OMG DOOM thread number next.

Wait till you actually play before making any sort of statement.

Whiny noob number next.

I hope I did that right; hopefully Tiresias will let me know.


You did pretty well ;)


From my other post: In general, the asmo skills tend to be geared towards going offensive, even at the expense of one's hp and vulnerability and elyos prefer defensive skills. On paper, the asmo skills look more interesting to me as it might take a bit more time getting used to them. Also, dont just look at one aspect of the game, the templar asmo skill is probably more useful in pvp than the elyos skill. (Note: its just an example. I dont want any of you sado's trying to prove me wrong with speculative replies. Peace)
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 04:46 PM

Semantics, they're what founded this great... forum. Ok that line doesn't work but oh well.

Besides if you want the best of both worlds with your characters go play Hello Kitty Online (Horrendously awesome game, I have a founder account on it rofl) At the end of the day we have to face it, Elyos based characters are going to be good for some things and Asmodians will be better for others.

You just can't expect the ultimate tank when you're playing on the race that seems to be getting geared up for offensive based combat, that's not to say you'll be gimp or anything but its just too idealistic to assume everything is going to go your way just because you told it to.

The game is diverse, adapt.
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 04:48 PM

Who cares? Just sit around and wait.

And if you don't like it, don't play Aion. I probably won't.
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 04:58 PM

One less person stealing kills in the newbie zones in release day, woop.
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 08:37 PM

at least we know RageQuit is named RageQuit because it's members rage quit rather than causing others to rage quit.
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 08:48 PM

typical Elyos trolling...*****es

except for the one guy from my legion...wtf man lol
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 08:55 PM

Cynic said:

Semantics, they're what founded this great... forum. Ok that line doesn't work but oh well.

Besides if you want the best of both worlds with your characters go play Hello Kitty Online (Horrendously awesome game, I have a founder account on it rofl) At the end of the day we have to face it, Elyos based characters are going to be good for some things and Asmodians will be better for others.

You just can't expect the ultimate tank when you're playing on the race that seems to be getting geared up for offensive based combat, that's not to say you'll be gimp or anything but its just too idealistic to assume everything is going to go your way just because you told it to.

The game is diverse, adapt.


1 simple sentence for this : Its the flaws that makes it interesting? :D

Heck, everybody could have gm weapons and 1shot everyone. That would last 1 hour, then you'd be bored of it. If you don't want a challenge, then I agree with Cynic. Go play Hello kitty online! I've never even played it, but I hear so much talk about it. Seems like I must try it?! xD

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:12 PM

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1 simple sentence for this : Its the flaws that makes it interesting? :D

Heck, everybody could have gm weapons and 1shot everyone. That would last 1 hour, then you'd be bored of it. If you don't want a challenge, then I agree with Cynic. Go play Hello kitty online! I've never even played it, but I hear so much talk about it. Seems like I must try it?! xD

Hah.


Yes, the flaws make it interesting, but there still ****ing flaws that need to be fixed. ****ing nihilist!
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:21 PM

It's funny to see HKO uses a torrent to get the client, 500KB/sec on Utorrent.
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:41 PM

The OP is obnoxiously prejudice and also unfounded. Even the healers in this game were given legitimate combat specs that way they can solo and participate in damage contribution, so it would be broken if Templars wern't producing signficant damage. Also, I've heard plenty of people actually playing and observing the game already make varied claims that Templar dominate many in one on one. With that, saying tanks are spec to do measley damage is just your experience with other games, not relavent to Aion.

Next is the fact that having higher health and damage, vs having higher damage and inversion to health is very competative. If you have more health and do more damage, than your going to be able to take and deal more punishment, if you deal more damage, and get health back, than your going to regenerate yourself and still take more damage. They may reward different builds, but they both have significant tactical values, if your able to dominate your opponent, dealing more damage and inverting it to health will offer more reward, if your more party reliant, having more durability will be more effective. Since PvP in this game is more or less mosh oriented, having several templar sustain their own health is a significant benifit over increasing their own health. What is 30% more health if the alternative can restore 60% health with attack restoration, it's all relative.

But most importantly, didn't they change around all these DP abilities to be the same for both races? Or was it they changed it to be seperate for each advanced class and different for each race? I know they made changes, I don't remember what, it's been to long, someone post the link.
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Posted 24 January 2009 - 10:31 AM

Good post Kaiser, each race specific skill will be useful in a certain situation. The changes you are talking about is in the leveling progress of each faction. If I remmember correctly, Elyos leveld slow at start but fast at higher levels and vice versa for asmodians. They did scrap this sytem though due to many complaints from players.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 10:10 PM

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Yes, the flaws make it interesting, but there still ****ing flaws that need to be fixed. ****ing nihilist!


Exactly.

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 01:58 AM

I hardly ever use my DP skill as a Glad, I use it when I get tired of looking at the shiney on my toon.
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